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Old 06-16-2005, 12:34 AM   #1
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OFF SM420, $60 to your door. Paypal or money order. Reply in thread please.
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Old 06-16-2005, 01:14 AM   #2
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what all would i need to put this in my k20? SM465/NP205... does it work? (i dont know what could go wrong with one?)
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Old 06-16-2005, 01:39 AM   #3
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Not sure, I know it came off a sm420 and the gears look fine, maybe someone else can say.
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Old 06-16-2005, 01:49 AM   #4
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who made that? whats the writing on there say ? and if blue 71 dont take it, i might
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Old 06-16-2005, 05:30 AM   #5
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dana/ chelsea that would be a single speed unit turns one direction to drive a hydraulic pump. If it's for a sm420 then that's all it will fit as the sm465/np205 and np435 all have different drive gears. I have 2 in my garage now, 1 for a np435 and the other for a sm465 and the gears are just slightly different.
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Old 06-16-2005, 07:03 AM   #6
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What would you do with it---really??
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Old 06-16-2005, 08:32 AM   #7
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It is the Dana/ Chelsea and I have the sm420 trans it came off.
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Old 06-16-2005, 11:49 AM   #8
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You could use the unit to drive a hydraulic pump for a dump bed or hydraulic winch. One board member(toolpimp) has one that operated a sprayer.
Oh I forgot to add that's a fair price I paid $75 and $100 for mine.
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1981 K30, 350/465/205 dana 60 and dually 14 bolt. Has a G80, and a flat bed. Going to replace the flat bed.

1985 K20, 350/400/208 10 bolt and SF 14 bolt. I wonder where I can find some 1 tons. Hmmmmm
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Old 06-16-2005, 12:07 PM   #9
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oh well i got a sm465 so count me out

so heres a ttt for ya

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Old 06-16-2005, 12:13 PM   #10
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so it wont work with a SM465... i do have another question about it though-- is this the same kind of pto that runs a "pto winch" (im assuming it would be because you said hydralic winch jim)

im also going to have to pass though, your a little to far from me for me to ask about getting the SM420 too
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so it wont work with a SM465... i do have another question about it though-- is this the same kind of pto that runs a "pto winch" (im assuming it would be because you said hydralic winch jim)

im also going to have to pass though, your a little to far from me for me to ask about getting the SM420 too
Too bad I would throw the trans in for free

I wont ship it.
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Old 06-16-2005, 02:35 PM   #12
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This is probably a stupid question, but would that work on a 2wd transmission?
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Old 06-16-2005, 02:47 PM   #13
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all SM420's were 2wd (had divorced t-cases behind them), so yes.
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Cool, thanks for the info. It really doesn't matter though, I'm putting a 465 in my truck.
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Old 06-16-2005, 03:45 PM   #15
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Not so there 1969 GMC ..my 69 GMC 3/4 4x4 was a Rockwell T221 married to a SM420. Seems in Canada they built some using the older stock parts..my bother had a 69 3/4 4x4 GMC with a Rockwell T221 to SM465, also a married unit.

I can decode some Chelsea / Dana / Spicer PTO number too if someone has a problem with knowing what they will fit. But I only bothered to fihgure out what fits a SM 420 SM465 and NP 205. Anything else didn't matter to me..I have it written down somewhere. But it's mostly off the top of my head now too also.
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thanks for the heads up rod. my GMC had the 465/married 221 originally. always good to learn more stuff.

edit: even so, the pto's for 2wd and 4wd versions of the same tranny are the same. they usually just differ in output shafts and bearing retainers.
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Old 06-16-2005, 05:12 PM   #17
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Ya does anyone want to buy it?

If you come and buy it I will throw in the sm420 for free! Really.

30 miles N. of Los Angeles

No shipping on trans, dont ask.
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Old 06-16-2005, 08:19 PM   #18
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The type of pto to drive a winch would have to be reversible. The pto above turns one direction and works by putting the tranny in neutral, push in the clutch, engaging the pto then releaseing the clutch.
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Old 06-18-2005, 11:21 AM   #19
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Your almost right there Jims70GMC very often you see winches that need two way pto's...but...often you dont..hence the Holmes winches on the tow trucks..the winches are made to be reversible..all while the PTO remains turning in the same direction. Check out any Holmes 440 wreckers...thats how they work.
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