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imdarren · 04-12-2002, 09:29 PM

I tried to install power steering today.
There are two types of couplers. And the old and new boxes have 2 diffrent diamater shafts / splines for the couplers. The new (Black shiney) box came with the small coupler (A shown), and the original was the more complex rag looking coupler. I tried to move the rag style (complex coupler) to the new power steering box, and it was too small dia. to fit over the shaft. When I tried to mate up with the coupler it came with there was a gap, and couldn't slide the steering part close enough to the box to take up the gap.
What should I do?

Oh yah. It's a 72 GMC 2wd 1/2 ton long bed /w a 350cid / TH350
Thanks for any help. Darren

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Darren
Washougal, Washington
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1972 GMC C1500 (Bone Stock)

Saving / Looking for a 72 SWB 4X4 Or 2WD Automatic with little or no rust.

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*racedvl* · 04-12-2002, 09:36 PM

What year is the new box? When I converted to p/s, I used a box from a 79 suburban. I used the rag joint from the 79. And then bolted the bottom of the coloum on my 69. Worked out great for me. Will the rag joint from your manual steering box work? I guess you could always get a rag joint from a bone yard.......

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da-burb · 04-12-2002, 09:40 PM

The power steering box does have a larger shaft than the manual box. Both styles of boxes use rag joints to connect it to the column. If you can't swap out the clamp portion, then you will have to find a correct one to use.

imdarren · 04-12-2002, 09:50 PM

The guy I purchased it from online said it(the steering box) came off a 1970 C10 2wd. Darren

Johns70 · 04-12-2002, 10:00 PM

IT looks like the one on the left is a broken peice of a rag joint, thats why its not long enough to connect.the parts store carry's the new rag joints that or a trip to the wrecking yard.

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Southpa · 04-12-2002, 11:06 PM

There are different ways to discover things,lol. I found that power and non-power steering boxes differed when I swapped my 70 frontend for that of a 71. I then found out that the new pitman arm ('71 non-p/s) wouldn't fit the old steering box ('70 p/s). So I had to pull my old pitman and install it onto the new drag link.

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1970 GMC 1500 Custom
Victoria, BC, Canada

imdarren · 04-12-2002, 11:15 PM

Wow! I hope I don't run into any pitman problems. Oh! By the way! Also, the front of the steering box hit the front bumper brace. I had to remove the brace to install the new steering box. Did they make diffrent braces for PS VS nonPS trucks? It doesn't seem to hit by much. Maybe 1/2 inch. Should I find the correct brace? Or just cut/grind the current one? Darren

Stepside · 04-13-2002, 07:05 AM

Yes, there were different braces. Cut it, it'll be fine.

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68 swb LT-1

*racedvl* · 04-13-2002, 07:25 PM

I notched my bracket.

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It's not what you buy, it's what you build!!

I did not climb to the top of the food chain, to become a vegetarian.

For some pics of my truck.

04-12-2002, 09:29 PM	#1
imdarren Registered User Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: SW Washington Posts: 1,006	Need steering help fast please. I tried to install power steering today. There are two types of couplers. And the old and new boxes have 2 diffrent diamater shafts / splines for the couplers. The new (Black shiney) box came with the small coupler (A shown), and the original was the more complex rag looking coupler. I tried to move the rag style (complex coupler) to the new power steering box, and it was too small dia. to fit over the shaft. When I tried to mate up with the coupler it came with there was a gap, and couldn't slide the steering part close enough to the box to take up the gap. What should I do? Oh yah. It's a 72 GMC 2wd 1/2 ton long bed /w a 350cid / TH350 Thanks for any help. Darren ------------------ Darren Washougal, Washington darrengale67@hotmail.com 1972 GMC C1500 (Bone Stock) Saving / Looking for a 72 SWB 4X4 Or 2WD Automatic with little or no rust. [This message has been edited by imdarren (edited April 12, 2002).] [This message has been edited by imdarren (edited April 12, 2002).] __________________ Washington State 1967 Chevy C10 LWB Rodstoration In Progress. 1972 K20 Cheyenne Super

04-12-2002, 09:40 PM	#3
da-burb "Ochre Ogre" Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Springfield, MN Posts: 3,558	The power steering box does have a larger shaft than the manual box. Both styles of boxes use rag joints to connect it to the column. If you can't swap out the clamp portion, then you will have to find a correct one to use. __________________ Bowtie Truck Stop Inc. Mid-West GM Truck Restoration Parts Supplier Your Key Parts, Auto Metal Direct, Dynacorn, and Goodmark dealer. like us @ www.facebook.com/BowtieTruckStop 1971 C-10 Suburban (Ochre) 1971 K-10 Suburban (Ochre) 1972 C-10 Suburban (Ochre) 1972 K-20 Suburban (Yellow- that just aint right!) Springfield, Minnesota 56087

04-12-2002, 09:50 PM	#4
imdarren Registered User Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: SW Washington Posts: 1,006	The guy I purchased it from online said it(the steering box) came off a 1970 C10 2wd. Darren __________________ Washington State 1967 Chevy C10 LWB Rodstoration In Progress. 1972 K20 Cheyenne Super

04-12-2002, 10:00 PM	#5
Johns70 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Spring Creek, nevada. U.S.A. Posts: 456	IT looks like the one on the left is a broken peice of a rag joint, thats why its not long enough to connect.the parts store carry's the new rag joints that or a trip to the wrecking yard. ------------------ project 70 chev swb rebuilt 396bb{402}rebuilt th-400 3.73 limited slip __________________ 69 chevy short wide box project 70 GMC jimmy project

04-12-2002, 11:06 PM	#6
Southpa Registered User Join Date: May 2000 Location: Victoria, BC, Canada Posts: 2,410	There are different ways to discover things,lol. I found that power and non-power steering boxes differed when I swapped my 70 frontend for that of a 71. I then found out that the new pitman arm ('71 non-p/s) wouldn't fit the old steering box ('70 p/s). So I had to pull my old pitman and install it onto the new drag link. ------------------ Southpa 1970 GMC 1500 Custom Victoria, BC, Canada __________________ 1970 GMC 1500 Custom Original 350/TH350 Victoria, BC, Canada You can wish in one hand and crap in the other. See which one gets filled first.

04-12-2002, 09:36 PM	#2
racedvl Account Suspended Join Date: Jan 2000 Location: Woodstock, IL Posts: 7,020	What year is the new box? When I converted to p/s, I used a box from a 79 suburban. I used the rag joint from the 79. And then bolted the bottom of the coloum on my 69. Worked out great for me. Will the rag joint from your manual steering box work? I guess you could always get a rag joint from a bone yard....... ------------------ http://hometown.aol.com/racedvl/racedvl69index.html Woodstock,IL.northwest of Chicago It's not what you buy, it's what you build!! I did not climb to the top of the food chain, to become a vegetarian. For some pics of my truck.

04-12-2002, 11:15 PM	#7
imdarren Registered User Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: SW Washington Posts: 1,006	Wow! I hope I don't run into any pitman problems. Oh! By the way! Also, the front of the steering box hit the front bumper brace. I had to remove the brace to install the new steering box. Did they make diffrent braces for PS VS nonPS trucks? It doesn't seem to hit by much. Maybe 1/2 inch. Should I find the correct brace? Or just cut/grind the current one? Darren __________________ Washington State 1967 Chevy C10 LWB Rodstoration In Progress. 1972 K20 Cheyenne Super

04-13-2002, 07:05 AM	#8
Stepside Gasser Join Date: May 2000 Location: Thomasville,NC USA Posts: 456	Yes, there were different braces. Cut it, it'll be fine. ------------------ 70 sstep tubbed, Muncie 68 swb LT-1 __________________ :thud 70 sstep tubbed, Muncie, double hump, snowflake,

04-13-2002, 07:25 PM	#9
racedvl Account Suspended Join Date: Jan 2000 Location: Woodstock, IL Posts: 7,020	I notched my bracket. ------------------ http://hometown.aol.com/racedvl/racedvl69index.html Woodstock,IL.northwest of Chicago It's not what you buy, it's what you build!! I did not climb to the top of the food chain, to become a vegetarian. For some pics of my truck.

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