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84 400 · 12-12-2005, 07:42 PM

my buddy and i are locking his

evan · 12-12-2005, 08:23 PM

Are you just going to weld them? Sorry, I can't help you with a "how to" but I have heard of some bad experiences doing this. If you have tires with reasonable grip and you are planning on driving on pavement you will probably end up snapping axles. If you are only going to be on gravel or offroad you should be ok.

My buddy watched a guy take his truck into a shop to have the spider gears welded because he was on his way to a rock crawling competition. He only had three turns to make before he could just cruise in a straight line to the competition. He got it welded, tried to get out of town, broke an axle, went back, fixed it, tried again, broke an axle, went back, fixed it, tried again. Third time was the charm and he actually made it.

four-eyed stang · 12-12-2005, 09:47 PM

I have never heard any happy endings by doing this. If you hammer down on it on an uneven surface, you risk tearing up for diff and axles. There should be some aftermark traction-lock type diffs available for a GM 10 bolt that will do what you want it to.

nwmod39 · 12-12-2005, 10:00 PM

what rear is in the truck now

SSC's76 · 12-12-2005, 11:32 PM

Mini spool would be ideal for a pourpose built straight line or wide corner setup like the roundy round cars. A lincoln locker will ruin the diff for any future use.

benoit454 · 12-12-2005, 11:50 PM

Yea mini spool for about 100 bucks from summit. It replaces the spider gears with splined ends, and 2 center chunks that the pin goes thru. I've heard of alot of people welding them up but I do not know how were or exact what you weld to what.

My monte carlo had a mini spool and the end resutl was pure carnage. it would not turn anything. Here's some pictures of it, and to show you the mini spool. 1st. pic is a good comparison to the spider gear one, lower right and spool setup, upper left.

I think they are a hundred bucks, maybe cheaper.

**pjmoreland** · 12-13-2005, 02:54 AM

A guy I worked with welded his. All the wheel studs broke off on one wheel the first time he drove it.

SSC's76 · 12-14-2005, 12:41 AM

Yea nice pics

You can see the cause of faulire wasent related to the spool though. See the carrier and the nice tooth marks in it. Thats what happens when the pinion nut backs off gets kinda messy as shown.

benoit454 · 12-15-2005, 01:02 PM

Yea but I beleive the ring gear damage was caused by that AND the spool because he tried driving the car on the street with it. I had a straight shot and wide swing and almost never made it in my carport with that in there.

12-12-2005, 07:42 PM	#1
84 400 Sb 400 club Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: NH / MA Posts: 2,746	how to lock the spider gears my buddy and i are locking his __________________ 1984 chevy c10, built 400sb,.(SOLD) 77 K10 Project / daily driver "The Grinch" http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=318363 1956 Willys Wagon (327 chevy) Project (Now Buick 225) 1980 Corvette L-48 4 speed 1992 Mustang GT built 5.0 5 speed 1985 C10 LWB Sold 1982 K10 SWB plow truck Parted out 1986 D30 M1028 fire brush truck Parted out

12-12-2005, 08:23 PM	#2
evan Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: SK, Canada Posts: 488	Re: how to lock the spider gears Are you just going to weld them? Sorry, I can't help you with a "how to" but I have heard of some bad experiences doing this. If you have tires with reasonable grip and you are planning on driving on pavement you will probably end up snapping axles. If you are only going to be on gravel or offroad you should be ok. My buddy watched a guy take his truck into a shop to have the spider gears welded because he was on his way to a rock crawling competition. He only had three turns to make before he could just cruise in a straight line to the competition. He got it welded, tried to get out of town, broke an axle, went back, fixed it, tried again, broke an axle, went back, fixed it, tried again. Third time was the charm and he actually made it. __________________ Evan B.

12-12-2005, 09:47 PM	#3
four-eyed stang Registered User Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Dallas Posts: 29	Re: how to lock the spider gears I have never heard any happy endings by doing this. If you hammer down on it on an uneven surface, you risk tearing up for diff and axles. There should be some aftermark traction-lock type diffs available for a GM 10 bolt that will do what you want it to.

12-12-2005, 10:00 PM	#4
nwmod39 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: spokane, washington Posts: 302	Re: how to lock the spider gears what rear is in the truck now

12-12-2005, 11:32 PM	#5
SSC's76 No No Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Pueblo Colorado Posts: 1,781	Re: how to lock the spider gears Mini spool would be ideal for a pourpose built straight line or wide corner setup like the roundy round cars. A lincoln locker will ruin the diff for any future use. __________________ 1976 Custom Deluxe SWB Med FMB.3/4 Drop. Gen VI 454, Muncie HD 3 speed With Modified OE Hurst Shifter, 3.73 12 bolt, GMPP HO roller cam, Hooker headers, Performer intake with modified Q-jet, Accel distributor. Best 1/4 12.3 @108. Funnest run 19.84 @88 full 1/4 mile burn out. 1997 K1500 ext cab 5.7 stock except muffler

12-12-2005, 11:50 PM	#6
benoit454 Chris Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Monaville, WV Posts: 3,737	Re: how to lock the spider gears Yea mini spool for about 100 bucks from summit. It replaces the spider gears with splined ends, and 2 center chunks that the pin goes thru. I've heard of alot of people welding them up but I do not know how were or exact what you weld to what. My monte carlo had a mini spool and the end resutl was pure carnage. it would not turn anything. Here's some pictures of it, and to show you the mini spool. 1st. pic is a good comparison to the spider gear one, lower right and spool setup, upper left. I think they are a hundred bucks, maybe cheaper. __________________ Chris GIT R DONE!!!!!! Check out all our rides, http://www.cardomain.com/id/benwa454

12-13-2005, 02:54 AM	#7
pjmoreland Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: CA Posts: 5,982	Re: how to lock the spider gears A guy I worked with welded his. All the wheel studs broke off on one wheel the first time he drove it.

12-14-2005, 12:41 AM	#8
SSC's76 No No Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Pueblo Colorado Posts: 1,781	Re: how to lock the spider gears Yea nice pics You can see the cause of faulire wasent related to the spool though. See the carrier and the nice tooth marks in it. Thats what happens when the pinion nut backs off gets kinda messy as shown. __________________ 1976 Custom Deluxe SWB Med FMB.3/4 Drop. Gen VI 454, Muncie HD 3 speed With Modified OE Hurst Shifter, 3.73 12 bolt, GMPP HO roller cam, Hooker headers, Performer intake with modified Q-jet, Accel distributor. Best 1/4 12.3 @108. Funnest run 19.84 @88 full 1/4 mile burn out. 1997 K1500 ext cab 5.7 stock except muffler

12-15-2005, 01:02 PM	#9
benoit454 Chris Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Monaville, WV Posts: 3,737	Re: how to lock the spider gears Yea but I beleive the ring gear damage was caused by that AND the spool because he tried driving the car on the street with it. I had a straight shot and wide swing and almost never made it in my carport with that in there. __________________ Chris GIT R DONE!!!!!! Check out all our rides, http://www.cardomain.com/id/benwa454

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