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**truckdude239** · 01-15-2006, 08:18 PM

found an 83 chevy converison van with 350 engine fuel pump in the side of block backed by a turbo 350 trans van runs and move 250 buxs motor said to been rebuilt about 5000 miles ago and runs strong anyway i plan on getting the van for the motor it will save me like 1100 buxs anyway the van has power steering will the power steering gear box fit my 71 c-10? the turbo 350 trans will be going in my friends 67 c-10 that has been needing a rebuild trans. any ideas if the gear box don't fit can i just switch the whole steering columon and make it work? thanks in advance

my new 72 · 01-15-2006, 08:26 PM

I really do not think so. If I remember correctly, the ps box for the van is a muck bigger unit, and will not fit. I could be wrong, but I don't think so.

*FormerMember* · 01-15-2006, 08:32 PM

Most of the boxes are the same. Differences in mounting and hose ends.

It should fit. It's a Saginaw box, after all. Be sure to match the hoses though. Some were a flare, others o-ring.

Also, shouldn't need to swap the column, as they both use a rag joint to connect to the box itself.

**truckdude239** · 01-15-2006, 08:37 PM

i'd be swaping gear box power steering pump and hoses from the van to the truck

**truckdude239** · 01-15-2006, 09:53 PM

the only reason i'm getting it so cheap is that the van was rear end andi know the guy selling it i helped him install the motor in it. he only put about 5k on it before he was rearended he took the money they came him and got another van and tolded me i could have it for250 buxs runs and drives

Longhorn Man · 01-15-2006, 10:38 PM

the column will have the ignition switch. They have been installed on the trucks, but it is a lot of work making the opening under the dash bigger, figuring out the wires for the ignition switch and the wiper controls.
I think a van has the steering gear box inside the frame rails... if so, it won't work.

Longhorn Man · 01-15-2006, 10:46 PM

As for the tranny in your buddy's truck, the 83 may have a lock up converter in it. If it does, you'll need to either wire it up to use it, or get rid of it. Running a lock up converter with out the lock up feature will cause LOTS of extra heat and slowly kill the tranny.
Also, the van will probably have a long shaft tranny where the truck would have a short shaft if original...drive shaft mods will be needed.

Just a heads up.

**truckdude239** · 01-15-2006, 11:40 PM

Thanks longhorn never thought of that

*FormerMember* · 01-15-2006, 11:46 PM

Last van I ripped apart had the box on the outside of the frame rails.

Was an 85.

Longhorn Man · 01-16-2006, 12:15 AM

OK, cool. An 83 would be the same.

Luvlegs · 01-16-2006, 09:43 AM

Any chance those van engine mounts would fit a 454 to go into my 72? (I'm only 3/4 of a state away from Truckdude)

01-15-2006, 08:18 PM	#1
truckdude239 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Lewisville, Nc Posts: 10,237	will it work? found an 83 chevy converison van with 350 engine fuel pump in the side of block backed by a turbo 350 trans van runs and move 250 buxs motor said to been rebuilt about 5000 miles ago and runs strong anyway i plan on getting the van for the motor it will save me like 1100 buxs anyway the van has power steering will the power steering gear box fit my 71 c-10? the turbo 350 trans will be going in my friends 67 c-10 that has been needing a rebuild trans. any ideas if the gear box don't fit can i just switch the whole steering columon and make it work? thanks in advance __________________ David fuller Ase Certified Mechanic Click here to help support our board!! 1971 Chevy c-10 under going a 4.8l LSx swap Build Thread http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=421305 2007 Honda Accord my daily 145kmiles 2002 Honda Accord 4 door With 330k(sisters car) 2005 toyota Avalon 228k( brothers car) 2002 Sububran 5.3 245k 2000 Tahoe 5.3l 378 General manager for Marco's Carwash & lube

01-15-2006, 08:26 PM	#2
my new 72 faster, faster, faster Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Houston ,Texas ,USA Posts: 1,354	Re: will it work? I really do not think so. If I remember correctly, the ps box for the van is a muck bigger unit, and will not fit. I could be wrong, but I don't think so. __________________ I'm going to Law School, wanna debate? It's good practice.

01-15-2006, 08:32 PM	#3
FormerMember Account Suspended Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 3,051	Re: will it work? Most of the boxes are the same. Differences in mounting and hose ends. It should fit. It's a Saginaw box, after all. Be sure to match the hoses though. Some were a flare, others o-ring. Also, shouldn't need to swap the column, as they both use a rag joint to connect to the box itself. Last edited by FormerMember; 01-15-2006 at 08:34 PM.

01-15-2006, 08:37 PM	#4
truckdude239 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Lewisville, Nc Posts: 10,237	Re: will it work? i'd be swaping gear box power steering pump and hoses from the van to the truck __________________ David fuller Ase Certified Mechanic Click here to help support our board!! 1971 Chevy c-10 under going a 4.8l LSx swap Build Thread http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=421305 2007 Honda Accord my daily 145kmiles 2002 Honda Accord 4 door With 330k(sisters car) 2005 toyota Avalon 228k( brothers car) 2002 Sububran 5.3 245k 2000 Tahoe 5.3l 378 General manager for Marco's Carwash & lube

01-15-2006, 09:53 PM	#5
truckdude239 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Lewisville, Nc Posts: 10,237	Re: will it work? the only reason i'm getting it so cheap is that the van was rear end andi know the guy selling it i helped him install the motor in it. he only put about 5k on it before he was rearended he took the money they came him and got another van and tolded me i could have it for250 buxs runs and drives __________________ David fuller Ase Certified Mechanic Click here to help support our board!! 1971 Chevy c-10 under going a 4.8l LSx swap Build Thread http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=421305 2007 Honda Accord my daily 145kmiles 2002 Honda Accord 4 door With 330k(sisters car) 2005 toyota Avalon 228k( brothers car) 2002 Sububran 5.3 245k 2000 Tahoe 5.3l 378 General manager for Marco's Carwash & lube

01-15-2006, 10:38 PM	#6
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,693	Re: will it work? the column will have the ignition switch. They have been installed on the trucks, but it is a lot of work making the opening under the dash bigger, figuring out the wires for the ignition switch and the wiper controls. I think a van has the steering gear box inside the frame rails... if so, it won't work. Last edited by Longhorn Man; 01-15-2006 at 10:39 PM.

01-15-2006, 10:46 PM	#7
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,693	Re: will it work? As for the tranny in your buddy's truck, the 83 may have a lock up converter in it. If it does, you'll need to either wire it up to use it, or get rid of it. Running a lock up converter with out the lock up feature will cause LOTS of extra heat and slowly kill the tranny. Also, the van will probably have a long shaft tranny where the truck would have a short shaft if original...drive shaft mods will be needed. Just a heads up.

01-15-2006, 11:40 PM	#8
truckdude239 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Lewisville, Nc Posts: 10,237	Re: will it work? Thanks longhorn never thought of that __________________ David fuller Ase Certified Mechanic Click here to help support our board!! 1971 Chevy c-10 under going a 4.8l LSx swap Build Thread http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=421305 2007 Honda Accord my daily 145kmiles 2002 Honda Accord 4 door With 330k(sisters car) 2005 toyota Avalon 228k( brothers car) 2002 Sububran 5.3 245k 2000 Tahoe 5.3l 378 General manager for Marco's Carwash & lube

01-15-2006, 11:46 PM	#9
FormerMember Account Suspended Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 3,051	Re: will it work? Last van I ripped apart had the box on the outside of the frame rails. Was an 85.

01-16-2006, 12:15 AM	#10
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,693	Re: will it work? OK, cool. An 83 would be the same.

01-16-2006, 09:43 AM	#11
Luvlegs Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Smith Mountain Lake Virginia Posts: 1,537	Re: will it work? Any chance those van engine mounts would fit a 454 to go into my 72? (I'm only 3/4 of a state away from Truckdude) __________________ "A cat will almost always blink when hit between the eyes with a ball peen hammer" (you don't always have to state the obvious) Wear your PPE! You can eat with false teeth but you can't see with a false eye. 1959 Studebaker Silverhawk 350/400 1972 C10 L6 3OTT 2005 F350 - Built - whew! Last edited by Luvlegs; 01-16-2006 at 09:43 AM.

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