sway bar bracket???? - The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network

Inthuwind · 11-08-2006, 06:57 PM

I know ECC makes these brackets for stock and lowered applications, but when using with airbags, which ones do I use? CPP says stock, any ideas or experiences here???

powell72 · 11-08-2006, 07:58 PM

I used the lowered one on my bagged truck.

**N2TRUX** · 11-09-2006, 12:41 AM

You can use the lowered ones, or don't use any at all. You can bolt the bushing clamps directly to the frame. You just want to make sure the bushing on the control arm doesn't bind up....

Inthuwind · 11-09-2006, 09:50 AM

Thanks guys for the responses. I may go without brackets. I just didn't know if there would be a problem when I aired out or with clearances elswhere.

Tony@AirRideTech · 11-09-2006, 10:44 AM

depending on which sway bar you go with, you will probably need to install the taller bracket in order to drop the mounting position of the bar.... this will keep your ends aligned better......

Inthuwind · 11-09-2006, 04:59 PM

Thanks Tony.

shifty · 03-11-2008, 01:53 AM

So, just to clarify on this point:

In my '68, I'm running bagged with 2.5" drop spindles.
I have a stock swaybar from a 73-87 pickup/van.
I have the "raised" swaybar brackets from ECE ($19).

This setup will work with no problems?

I keep seeing all these pictures of people using some aftermarket swaybar with holes in the ends that bolt to a Q-Tip looking contraption with bushings. I just wanted to make sure I'm not looking for trouble or anything

SCOTI · 03-11-2008, 02:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shifty

I keep seeing all these pictures of people using some aftermarket swaybar with holes in the ends that bolt to a Q-Tip looking contraption with bushings. I just wanted to make sure I'm not looking for trouble or anything

Those are ART's new 'end-link' design to minimize binding w/air suspension travel limits.

shifty · 03-11-2008, 02:18 AM

It looks like CPP has a similar unit, I imagine ECE does as well.

Can you define "binding" for me? I'm tryin to assess whether this is going to be a genuine problem for me.

SCOTI · 03-11-2008, 02:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shifty

It looks like CPP has a similar unit, I imagine ECE does as well.

Can you define "binding" for me? I'm tryin to assess whether this is going to be a genuine problem for me.

The end of the bar get's shifted to extreme angles & forces the bushings to be mis-aligned w/the bushing bracket that bolts to the a-arm.

shifty · 03-11-2008, 03:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SCOTI

The end of the bar get's shifted to extreme angles & forces the bushings to be mis-aligned w/the bushing bracket that bolts to the a-arm.

Well, that sucks

Is the only side effect premature fatigue of the bushings mounted to the conrol arm? Or is there some other more serious issue to worry about - like, twisting control arms, not being able to 'lay out' or otherwise?

*Shane* · 03-11-2008, 03:04 AM

stock sway bar with no brackets on a bags & spindles

72BlckButy · 03-11-2008, 05:02 AM

I believe it was Frizzle Fry that posted the FAQ on mounting the sway bar directly to the frame. I'm not bagging my truck, yet...., but I'm planning on mounting the bar directly to the frame when I do lower my truck.

**N2TRUX** · 03-11-2008, 05:07 AM

Scoti was the first one that I know of on here to go direct mount. That was before ECE offered the shorter brackets. Besides, Scoti was too ...uh ...frugal... to buy custom brackets....

72BlckButy · 03-11-2008, 06:05 AM

I know where he's coming from...

Thanks for the correction N2TRUX.

slammed1 · 03-11-2008, 06:22 AM

I used original brackets and just placed my sway bar inside of the brackets instead of under. Worked like a charm.
You can see it in this picture.

redrat · 03-11-2008, 07:47 AM

i cut the back off my brackets and turned them around so it wold move the bushing up to the frame and still keep it out of a bind.

Frizzle Fry · 03-11-2008, 10:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by redrat

i cut the back off my brackets and turned them around so it wold move the bushing up to the frame and still keep it out of a bind.

That's a great set-up. You can only go so low with them mounted directly to the frame. I had to make brackets for mine after I bagged it.

gringoloco · 03-12-2008, 02:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slammed1

I used original brackets and just placed my sway bar inside of the brackets instead of under. Worked like a charm.
You can see it in this picture.

Quote:

Originally Posted by redrat

i cut the back off my brackets and turned them around so it wold move the bushing up to the frame and still keep it out of a bind.

Both great ideas! Now I feel like a douche for spending the money on the lowered brackets...

shifty · 03-12-2008, 02:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gringoloco

Both great ideas! Now I feel like a douche for spending the money on the lowered brackets...

How much did you spend?

gringoloco · 03-12-2008, 03:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shifty

How much did you spend?

Well, I guess I don't feel like too big of a douche...

ainokea · 03-13-2008, 02:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by redrat

i cut the back off my brackets and turned them around so it wold move the bushing up to the frame and still keep it out of a bind.

do we have to do this if we drop our trucks 5" in front?

SCOTI · 03-13-2008, 10:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ainokea

do we have to do this if we drop our trucks 5" in front?

I didn't. Mine were bolted directly to the frame w/5+" of front drop. I'm not sure how it will be now w/a Dropmember up front (haven't had the a-arms installed long enough to figure it all out).

gringoloco · 03-14-2008, 08:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SCOTI

I didn't. Mine were bolted directly to the frame w/5+" of front drop. I'm not sure how it will be now w/a Dropmember up front (haven't had the a-arms installed long enough to figure it all out).

When you figure out the swaybar, let us know. It looks like you could use the stock outer hole and drill another. That's w/stock arms- if you're using ARTs, I dunno...

shifty · 03-11-2008, 07:40 AM

cool setup, slammed1

effectively, the ECE bracket puts them in the same place, and a pair of brackets is less than $20, so I had them work it into my 5-lug axle order!

11-08-2006, 06:57 PM	#1
Inthuwind Straight jacket required Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: OKC, OK Posts: 882	sway bar bracket???? I know ECC makes these brackets for stock and lowered applications, but when using with airbags, which ones do I use? CPP says stock, any ideas or experiences here??? __________________ 1968 C10 Short Stepper 350/350 A/C P/S P/B Front disc 3/5 static/ 12bolt rear 3:73 1979 Pontiac Trans Am 10th Anniversary/455/4spd 2011 H-D Street Glide - CAMMED n lowered Dad always said,"Son, if you can't be good...be good at it."

11-08-2006, 07:58 PM	#2
powell72 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Loveland Co. Posts: 3,098	Re: sway bar bracket???? I used the lowered one on my bagged truck. __________________ Chris 74 Custom Deluxe SWB 350/350/3.73’s 99 2wd Silverado RCSB 5.3/4L60/3.90’s http://www.classictrucks.com/feature...short_bed.html

11-09-2006, 12:41 AM	#3
N2TRUX Happy to be here Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: Cypress, TX Posts: 39,021	Re: sway bar bracket???? You can use the lowered ones, or don't use any at all. You can bolt the bushing clamps directly to the frame. You just want to make sure the bushing on the control arm doesn't bind up.... __________________ Follow me on Facebook and Instagram @N2trux.com Articles- "Jake" the 84 to 74 crewcab "Elwood" the77_Remix 85 GMC Sierra "Scarlett" "Refining Sierra"

11-09-2006, 09:50 AM	#4
Inthuwind Straight jacket required Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: OKC, OK Posts: 882	Re: sway bar bracket???? Thanks guys for the responses. I may go without brackets. I just didn't know if there would be a problem when I aired out or with clearances elswhere. __________________ 1968 C10 Short Stepper 350/350 A/C P/S P/B Front disc 3/5 static/ 12bolt rear 3:73 1979 Pontiac Trans Am 10th Anniversary/455/4spd 2011 H-D Street Glide - CAMMED n lowered Dad always said,"Son, if you can't be good...be good at it."

11-09-2006, 10:44 AM	#5
Tony@AirRideTech Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Huntingburg IN Posts: 620	Re: sway bar bracket???? depending on which sway bar you go with, you will probably need to install the taller bracket in order to drop the mounting position of the bar.... this will keep your ends aligned better......

11-09-2006, 04:59 PM	#6
Inthuwind Straight jacket required Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: OKC, OK Posts: 882	Re: sway bar bracket???? Thanks Tony. __________________ 1968 C10 Short Stepper 350/350 A/C P/S P/B Front disc 3/5 static/ 12bolt rear 3:73 1979 Pontiac Trans Am 10th Anniversary/455/4spd 2011 H-D Street Glide - CAMMED n lowered Dad always said,"Son, if you can't be good...be good at it."

03-11-2008, 01:53 AM	#7
shifty Questionable Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Atlanta Posts: 13,373	Re: sway bar bracket???? So, just to clarify on this point: In my '68, I'm running bagged with 2.5" drop spindles. I have a stock swaybar from a 73-87 pickup/van. I have the "raised" swaybar brackets from ECE ($19). This setup will work with no problems? I keep seeing all these pictures of people using some aftermarket swaybar with holes in the ends that bolt to a Q-Tip looking contraption with bushings. I just wanted to make sure I'm not looking for trouble or anything __________________ If I've got anything up for grabs, it'll be here: 7-hole gauge cluster for a 67-72 p/u FREE (link) I can't check the forum daily. If I don't reply to you within 24 hours, drop me a PM! I'm (hopefully) still alive and will reply faster to a PM.

03-11-2008, 02:18 AM	#9
shifty Questionable Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Atlanta Posts: 13,373	Re: sway bar bracket???? It looks like CPP has a similar unit, I imagine ECE does as well. Can you define "binding" for me? I'm tryin to assess whether this is going to be a genuine problem for me. __________________ If I've got anything up for grabs, it'll be here: 7-hole gauge cluster for a 67-72 p/u FREE (link) I can't check the forum daily. If I don't reply to you within 24 hours, drop me a PM! I'm (hopefully) still alive and will reply faster to a PM.

03-11-2008, 03:04 AM	#12
Shane Account Suspended Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: over yonder Posts: 14,270	Re: sway bar bracket???? stock sway bar with no brackets on a bags & spindles

03-11-2008, 05:02 AM	#13
72BlckButy Tot Roddin' Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Mid-MO Posts: 24,461	Re: sway bar bracket???? I believe it was Frizzle Fry that posted the FAQ on mounting the sway bar directly to the frame. I'm not bagging my truck, yet...., but I'm planning on mounting the bar directly to the frame when I do lower my truck. __________________ -Nate 1969 CST SWB - Project Blank Slate (4.5/6" ECE Static Drop, 6-lug disc brake upgrade (manual), Billet Specialties Vintec 20x8.5 255/40 (F) 20x10 295/40 (R), 250 I-6) 1960 AMF Skylark - Tot Roddin' (Lowered with custom frame; soon to include custom push bar and interior) 2008 Silverado CrewCab 1LT (5.3L, 3:73, 4x4, LT1, Z-71, Towing Package)

03-11-2008, 05:07 AM	#14
N2TRUX Happy to be here Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: Cypress, TX Posts: 39,021	Re: sway bar bracket???? Scoti was the first one that I know of on here to go direct mount. That was before ECE offered the shorter brackets. Besides, Scoti was too ...uh ...frugal... to buy custom brackets.... __________________ Follow me on Facebook and Instagram @N2trux.com Articles- "Jake" the 84 to 74 crewcab "Elwood" the77_Remix 85 GMC Sierra "Scarlett" "Refining Sierra"

03-11-2008, 06:05 AM	#15
72BlckButy Tot Roddin' Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Mid-MO Posts: 24,461	Re: sway bar bracket???? I know where he's coming from... Thanks for the correction N2TRUX. __________________ -Nate 1969 CST SWB - Project Blank Slate (4.5/6" ECE Static Drop, 6-lug disc brake upgrade (manual), Billet Specialties Vintec 20x8.5 255/40 (F) 20x10 295/40 (R), 250 I-6) 1960 AMF Skylark - Tot Roddin' (Lowered with custom frame; soon to include custom push bar and interior) 2008 Silverado CrewCab 1LT (5.3L, 3:73, 4x4, LT1, Z-71, Towing Package)

03-11-2008, 06:22 AM	#16
slammed1 1972 Chevrolet SWB Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: FT Smith AR Posts: 512	Re: sway bar bracket???? I used original brackets and just placed my sway bar inside of the brackets instead of under. Worked like a charm. You can see it in this picture. __________________ My New thread with pics (not my build thread yet.) http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...46#post2573646 1972 Chevrolet 1/2 ton short wide bed,68 frt clip Project. 1980 Camaro Inherited when father passed,68K Miles 2003 Ford Mach1 FUN as Hell!! 2002 Dodge Ram 5-8 slam Rolling BillBoard (Gone not forgot) 2004 Dodge Ram HEMI 10" lifted on 37's and 2wd. Last edited by slammed1; 03-11-2008 at 06:22 AM.

03-11-2008, 07:47 AM	#17
redrat gearhead Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Tulsa OK Posts: 144	Re: sway bar bracket???? i cut the back off my brackets and turned them around so it wold move the bushing up to the frame and still keep it out of a bind. Attached Images __________________ 2003 GMC Z71 Daily driver 1982 Chevy 2wd short bed, project, boxerdra@hotmail.com

03-11-2008, 07:40 AM	#25
shifty Questionable Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Atlanta Posts: 13,373	Re: sway bar bracket???? cool setup, slammed1 effectively, the ECE bracket puts them in the same place, and a pair of brackets is less than $20, so I had them work it into my 5-lug axle order! __________________ If I've got anything up for grabs, it'll be here: 7-hole gauge cluster for a 67-72 p/u FREE (link) I can't check the forum daily. If I don't reply to you within 24 hours, drop me a PM! I'm (hopefully) still alive and will reply faster to a PM.



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