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*rage'nrat638* · 11-11-2006, 05:37 PM

69 CHEVY 355 SMALL BLOCK

LETS START WITH THE HEADS
stock 882 cast heads press in studs ....start to finish
stud towers milled off and tapped for 3/8 studs and push rod guides
Z valve springs, comp cams retainers, and positive valve seals.
comp cam full roller rockers ,1.5 ratio and 3/8" studs.
gm performance valves

used lock tight on stud bolts ---- 3 angle valve job. $325.00

*rage'nrat638* · 11-11-2006, 05:40 PM

installing new studs and guide plates and 1 coat of paint

comp cam poly locks.. rebagged ready to install on block...

*rage'nrat638* · 11-11-2006, 05:42 PM

finishing up

*rage'nrat638* · 11-12-2006, 05:21 PM

well lets start to day by removing the oil pan..
notice the 4 bolt mains

clean the block head mating surfaces and retap out all mounting holes
apply thread sealant to all head bolt holes and bolts preinstall

oil pump tube welded into place

*rage'nrat638* · 11-12-2006, 05:24 PM

after cleaning surfaces...clean out all mounting threaded holes with the tap set..a must for head bolts...

*rage'nrat638* · 11-12-2006, 05:28 PM

some new parts..
arp head bolts
arp fuel pump rod
lifters
cam
double roller t-chain
felpro gasket set

*Billla* · 11-13-2006, 11:12 AM

Great quick 'n dirty overhaul thread. A couple of quick questions:

It looks like you're not touching the rotating assy, correct? (i.e., topend only)
Looks like you cleaned up the heads yourself vs. hotank/blast?
What did you do with the overspray on the head intake gasket surfaces?

A couple of comments for your and the watchers feedback and perspective:

I worry a bit using abrasives on something that's not coming all the way down. How did you keep grit out of the bore while you were cleaning up the block deck?
I'm not a big fan of using taps to clean out threads. Thread chasers are a lot safer choice for the occasional rebuildiner - a chaser is hard to start wrong, and if you do, it won't turn. Get a tap in crooked and you have a problem as it will happily cut new threads Decent chaser sets are pretty cheap.

*rage'nrat638* · 11-13-2006, 07:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Billla

Great quick 'n dirty overhaul thread. A couple of quick questions:

It looks like you're not touching the rotating assy, correct? (i.e., topend only)
Looks like you cleaned up the heads yourself vs. hotank/blast?
What did you do with the overspray on the head intake gasket surfaces?

A couple of comments for your and the watchers feedback and perspective:

I worry a bit using abrasives on something that's not coming all the way down. How did you keep grit out of the bore while you were cleaning up the block deck?
I'm not a big fan of using taps to clean out threads. Thread chasers are a lot safer choice for the occasional rebuildiner - a chaser is hard to start wrong, and if you do, it won't turn. Get a tap in crooked and you have a problem as it will happily cut new threads Decent chaser sets are pretty cheap.

the bottom end was just rebuilt 5000 miles ago..
the heads i had redone at the mechine shop...
the intake gasket surfaces will be cleaned with thinner...as was everything
i had rag's stuffed in each cyl hole while cleaning...
power flushed each cyl...
compressed air dryed....
no threads or animals were hurt or killed during this rebuild

MY OIL PAN GOT SHIPPED TO WISC. SHOULD BE HERE TOMMARROW NIGHT NOW...just as well it's raining outside and i can't (won't) sit my prostreet truck out in the rain

*rage'nrat638* · 11-14-2006, 09:30 PM

ok lets get on with the new oil pan install...
this pan has trap doors inside and a crank scraper...
the best thing is it has flange reinforcement

*rage'nrat638* · 11-14-2006, 09:34 PM

next is 35.00 worth of stainless steel bolts..enough for the complete engine from ace hardware ...SWEET

MY NEW TALL VALVE COVERS...
and two stickers to hold it together...

Crank · 11-14-2006, 11:15 PM

Okay I have one quick question. Is this motor originally a '69 out of your truck. I dont know the difference motor wise between a 2 piece and a 1 piece rear seal block. I'm assuming from yours it is a stock '69 block with a one piece oil pan gasket. Like everyone else that owns a Chevy. I'm having problems getting my '73 motor in my '86 to seal up right at the pan. Will this gasket you've used work on my 2 piece rear seal 350 out of a '73? And it looks like in the picture it has some sort of blue permatex or something or is that just the gasket? You've got me wanting to pull my dang motor and paint and clean up the turd. Thanks for this detailed buildup.
Brandon

*rage'nrat638* · 11-15-2006, 12:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crank

Okay I have one quick question. Is this motor originally a '69 out of your truck. I dont know the difference motor wise between a 2 piece and a 1 piece rear seal block. I'm assuming from yours it is a stock '69 block with a one piece oil pan gasket. Like everyone else that owns a Chevy. I'm having problems getting my '73 motor in my '86 to seal up right at the pan. Will this gasket you've used work on my 2 piece rear seal 350 out of a '73? And it looks like in the picture it has some sort of blue permatex or something or is that just the gasket? You've got me wanting to pull my dang motor and paint and clean up the turd. Thanks for this detailed buildup.
Brandon

YES YOU CAN GET THIS ONE PIECE GASKET SET FROM MURRYS FOR 29.00 FOR A ONE PIECE OR TWO PIECE REAR MAIN...THEY ARE THE CATS MEOW
yes its blue sealer just in the four corners...the rest goes on dry..
THE KIT COMES WITH ALL NEW BOLTS AND WASHERS....

mySAVIOReigns · 11-15-2006, 02:41 PM

Man, that looks great! I love the black on orange

swb85 · 11-15-2006, 03:58 PM

Cool thread! Engine looks awesome. If you don't mind me asking, where did you get the "super duper" oil pan

& what did it cost?

*rage'nrat638* · 11-15-2006, 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by swb85

Cool thread! Engine looks awesome. If you don't mind me asking, where did you get the "super duper" oil pan

& what did it cost?

ONE SUPER DUPER OIL PAN...49.00 PLUS 15.00 FOR SHIPPING
EBAY ITEM #Item number: 8073851381

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB..._promot_widget

*rage'nrat638* · 11-15-2006, 09:23 PM

INTAKE INSTALL TIME !!!!!!!
i started by cleaning the mating surface's
put thread sealer in the open ended hole's on the heads...for sure the 4 by the carb base that always seem to leak....

i am using the sweet baby blue silicone that match's the baby blue felpeo gaskets

throw the rubber end seals away..for the intake valley...
put thread sealer on the intake bolt ends and tighten as GM recommends

*rage'nrat638* · 11-15-2006, 09:28 PM

next we sit the intake into place and installed the bolts as mentioned
i also installed my new ARP fuel pump rod and fuel pump...
using the fancy S.S. bolts

also installed my high dollar alum water pump...O YEA

weasel29gm · 11-15-2006, 07:35 PM

Cool thread and love those home built small blocks.

70c10 · 11-16-2006, 10:18 AM

Lookin' good Mark!. How did you get the carb so clean?

*rage'nrat638* · 11-16-2006, 09:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 70c10

Lookin' good Mark!. How did you get the carb so clean?

thanks buddy...that carb is brand new old stock i bought at a swap meet for 40.00

*rage'nrat638* · 11-16-2006, 09:40 PM

well to night i started by filling the engine with oil 10W40 so i can prime the engine on the engine stand..filled thru the dizzy hole on the intake manifold.

i just got my new sbc balancer installation tool..i will install the balancer and use that tool to turn the engine over to adjust my roller rockers...

*rage'nrat638* · 11-16-2006, 09:48 PM

next we use my home made engine primer tool made from a old points dizzy
now i made some cardboard rail's as you will see...they worked a little, oil still went all over...i must have spent 1 hour priming and rotating the engine to get each rocker to have oil to them...filling each push rod with oil is a big help...before adjusting the rockers

*rage'nrat638* · 11-16-2006, 10:00 PM

well adjusting the rockers is very easy....
i used my chilton manual to find out which valve's to adjust with each rotation of the crank...the balancer install tool is excellent for turning the engine over to do this....adjust each poly lock untill zero lash and then 1 complete turn and tighten each poly lock Allen set screw...

ENGINE ON TOP DEAD CENTER BOTH VALVES CLOSED ON #1 CYL
ADJUST INTAKE AND EXHAUST VALVE LISTED IN BOOK..
ROTATE THE CRANK ONE REVOLUTION TO #6 FIRING ORDER
ADJUST INTAKE AND EXHAUST VALVES LISTED IN BOOK..
THERE DONE...

Sweet72 · 11-18-2006, 11:29 PM

Dang that's looking good! Can't wait to get my new 383 fired up. Need headers and exhaust.

*rage'nrat638* · 11-19-2006, 10:45 PM

well i am getting a ton of views on this post..but nobody's saying anything

should i keep posting pictures.. as planned or call it a day...
it takes a lot of time to take all these pictures and post them..are they doing any good?
mark

11-11-2006, 05:40 PM	#2
rage'nrat638 Account Suspended Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: THE FALL GUY CHICAGO IL Posts: 5,883	Re: Sbc Overhauling 123 Top To Bottom W Pictures And Commentary installing new studs and guide plates and 1 coat of paint comp cam poly locks.. rebagged ready to install on block... Last edited by rage'nrat638; 07-12-2007 at 07:01 AM.

11-11-2006, 05:42 PM	#3
rage'nrat638 Account Suspended Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: THE FALL GUY CHICAGO IL Posts: 5,883	Re: Sbc Overhauling 123 Top To Bottom W Pictures And Commentary finishing up Last edited by rage'nrat638; 07-12-2007 at 07:01 AM.

11-12-2006, 05:21 PM	#4
rage'nrat638 Account Suspended Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: THE FALL GUY CHICAGO IL Posts: 5,883	Re: Sbc Overhauling 123 Top To Bottom W Pictures And Commentary well lets start to day by removing the oil pan.. notice the 4 bolt mains clean the block head mating surfaces and retap out all mounting holes apply thread sealant to all head bolt holes and bolts preinstall oil pump tube welded into place Last edited by rage'nrat638; 07-12-2007 at 07:01 AM.

11-12-2006, 05:24 PM	#5
rage'nrat638 Account Suspended Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: THE FALL GUY CHICAGO IL Posts: 5,883	Re: Sbc Overhauling 123 Top To Bottom W Pictures And Commentary after cleaning surfaces...clean out all mounting threaded holes with the tap set..a must for head bolts... Last edited by rage'nrat638; 07-12-2007 at 07:01 AM.

11-13-2006, 11:12 AM	#7
Billla Account Suspended Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Monroe, WA Posts: 3,814	Re: Sbc Overhauling 123 Top To Bottom W Pictures And Commentary Great quick 'n dirty overhaul thread. A couple of quick questions: It looks like you're not touching the rotating assy, correct? (i.e., topend only) Looks like you cleaned up the heads yourself vs. hotank/blast? What did you do with the overspray on the head intake gasket surfaces? A couple of comments for your and the watchers feedback and perspective: I worry a bit using abrasives on something that's not coming all the way down. How did you keep grit out of the bore while you were cleaning up the block deck? I'm not a big fan of using taps to clean out threads. Thread chasers are a lot safer choice for the occasional rebuildiner - a chaser is hard to start wrong, and if you do, it won't turn. Get a tap in crooked and you have a problem as it will happily cut new threads Decent chaser sets are pretty cheap. Last edited by Billla; 11-13-2006 at 11:27 AM.

11-11-2006, 05:37 PM	#1
rage'nrat638 Account Suspended Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: THE FALL GUY CHICAGO IL Posts: 5,883	Sbc Overhauling 123 Top To Bottom W Pictures And Commentary 69 CHEVY 355 SMALL BLOCK LETS START WITH THE HEADS stock 882 cast heads press in studs ....start to finish stud towers milled off and tapped for 3/8 studs and push rod guides Z valve springs, comp cams retainers, and positive valve seals. comp cam full roller rockers ,1.5 ratio and 3/8" studs. gm performance valves used lock tight on stud bolts ---- 3 angle valve job. $325.00 Last edited by rage'nrat638; 07-12-2007 at 07:01 AM.

11-12-2006, 05:28 PM	#6
rage'nrat638 Account Suspended Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: THE FALL GUY CHICAGO IL Posts: 5,883	Re: Sbc Overhauling 123 Top To Bottom W Pictures And Commentary some new parts.. arp head bolts arp fuel pump rod lifters cam double roller t-chain felpro gasket set Last edited by rage'nrat638; 07-12-2007 at 07:01 AM.

11-14-2006, 09:30 PM	#9
rage'nrat638 Account Suspended Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: THE FALL GUY CHICAGO IL Posts: 5,883	Re: Sbc Overhauling 123 Top To Bottom W Pictures And Commentary ok lets get on with the new oil pan install... this pan has trap doors inside and a crank scraper... the best thing is it has flange reinforcement Last edited by rage'nrat638; 07-12-2007 at 07:01 AM.

11-14-2006, 09:34 PM	#10
rage'nrat638 Account Suspended Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: THE FALL GUY CHICAGO IL Posts: 5,883	Re: Sbc Overhauling 123 Top To Bottom W Pictures And Commentary next is 35.00 worth of stainless steel bolts..enough for the complete engine from ace hardware ...SWEET MY NEW TALL VALVE COVERS... and two stickers to hold it together... Last edited by rage'nrat638; 07-12-2007 at 07:01 AM.

11-14-2006, 11:15 PM	#11
Crank Registered User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Crittenden, KY Posts: 1,965	Re: Sbc Overhauling 123 Top To Bottom W Pictures And Commentary Okay I have one quick question. Is this motor originally a '69 out of your truck. I dont know the difference motor wise between a 2 piece and a 1 piece rear seal block. I'm assuming from yours it is a stock '69 block with a one piece oil pan gasket. Like everyone else that owns a Chevy. I'm having problems getting my '73 motor in my '86 to seal up right at the pan. Will this gasket you've used work on my 2 piece rear seal 350 out of a '73? And it looks like in the picture it has some sort of blue permatex or something or is that just the gasket? You've got me wanting to pull my dang motor and paint and clean up the turd. Thanks for this detailed buildup. Brandon

11-15-2006, 02:41 PM	#13
mySAVIOReigns Active Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Arlington, TX Posts: 111	Re: Sbc Overhauling 123 Top To Bottom W Pictures And Commentary Man, that looks great! I love the black on orange __________________ Website Here -Stephen 1985 Chevy Silverado, 1/2 ton

11-15-2006, 03:58 PM	#14
swb85 On a budget like Fred Sanford Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Topeka, KS Posts: 2,031	Re: Sbc Overhauling 123 Top To Bottom W Pictures And Commentary Cool thread! Engine looks awesome. If you don't mind me asking, where did you get the "super duper" oil pan & what did it cost? __________________ '85 Silverado swb: 383 stroker, 10.5:1, vortec heads, 232/238 roller cam, RPM air gap, performer 750 carb, stainless longtubes, 3" duals/super 44's, T56/4.11 383ci build / exterior refresh thread '98 Camaro z28: 370ci twin turbo 370ci build '01 Tahoe LT 4x4: 5.3, longtubes/ory, magnaflow duals, custom tune....wife's DD

11-15-2006, 09:23 PM	#16
rage'nrat638 Account Suspended Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: THE FALL GUY CHICAGO IL Posts: 5,883	Re: Sbc Overhauling 123 Top To Bottom W Pictures And Commentary INTAKE INSTALL TIME !!!!!!! i started by cleaning the mating surface's put thread sealer in the open ended hole's on the heads...for sure the 4 by the carb base that always seem to leak.... i am using the sweet baby blue silicone that match's the baby blue felpeo gaskets throw the rubber end seals away..for the intake valley... put thread sealer on the intake bolt ends and tighten as GM recommends Last edited by rage'nrat638; 07-12-2007 at 07:01 AM.

11-15-2006, 09:28 PM	#17
rage'nrat638 Account Suspended Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: THE FALL GUY CHICAGO IL Posts: 5,883	Re: Sbc Overhauling 123 Top To Bottom W Pictures And Commentary next we sit the intake into place and installed the bolts as mentioned i also installed my new ARP fuel pump rod and fuel pump... using the fancy S.S. bolts also installed my high dollar alum water pump...O YEA Last edited by rage'nrat638; 07-12-2007 at 07:01 AM.

11-15-2006, 07:35 PM	#18
weasel29gm SLOW BUT SURE,BUT CLOSER Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: eleanor wv usa Posts: 3,097	Re: Sbc Overhauling 123 Top To Bottom W Pictures And Commentary Cool thread and love those home built small blocks. __________________ 69 C-10, OWNED 38YRS... 350 over 30, 350 Turbo, 3:73 Posi P/S, P/B Black with red and black int. ''LOVE THESE OLD ''TRUCKS.......



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11-16-2006, 10:18 AM	#19
70c10 67-72 Addict! Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: The TAX State! Posts: 7,856	Re: Sbc Overhauling 123 Top To Bottom W Pictures And Commentary Lookin' good Mark!. How did you get the carb so clean? __________________ Jim 1970 C/10 Fleetside w/Ghost Flames Lowered 4.5" front and 4" rear (Raked) 355/350 Turbo w/shift kit 10" Redneck Performance Verter w/2500 stall Hooker Super Comps part#2808-1 Performer RPM Air-Gap 12 Bolt w/3:73 gears- Eaton Posi Comp Cams XE262 with 1.6 Crane Energizers, Road Demon 625 and Brodix IK 180 heads

11-16-2006, 09:40 PM	#21
rage'nrat638 Account Suspended Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: THE FALL GUY CHICAGO IL Posts: 5,883	Re: Sbc Overhauling 123 Top To Bottom W Pictures And Commentary well to night i started by filling the engine with oil 10W40 so i can prime the engine on the engine stand..filled thru the dizzy hole on the intake manifold. i just got my new sbc balancer installation tool..i will install the balancer and use that tool to turn the engine over to adjust my roller rockers... Last edited by rage'nrat638; 07-12-2007 at 07:01 AM.

11-16-2006, 09:48 PM	#22
rage'nrat638 Account Suspended Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: THE FALL GUY CHICAGO IL Posts: 5,883	Re: Sbc Overhauling 123 Top To Bottom W Pictures And Commentary next we use my home made engine primer tool made from a old points dizzy now i made some cardboard rail's as you will see...they worked a little, oil still went all over...i must have spent 1 hour priming and rotating the engine to get each rocker to have oil to them...filling each push rod with oil is a big help...before adjusting the rockers Last edited by rage'nrat638; 07-12-2007 at 07:01 AM.

11-16-2006, 10:00 PM	#23
rage'nrat638 Account Suspended Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: THE FALL GUY CHICAGO IL Posts: 5,883	Re: Sbc Overhauling 123 Top To Bottom W Pictures And Commentary well adjusting the rockers is very easy.... i used my chilton manual to find out which valve's to adjust with each rotation of the crank...the balancer install tool is excellent for turning the engine over to do this....adjust each poly lock untill zero lash and then 1 complete turn and tighten each poly lock Allen set screw... ENGINE ON TOP DEAD CENTER BOTH VALVES CLOSED ON #1 CYL ADJUST INTAKE AND EXHAUST VALVE LISTED IN BOOK.. ROTATE THE CRANK ONE REVOLUTION TO #6 FIRING ORDER ADJUST INTAKE AND EXHAUST VALVES LISTED IN BOOK.. THERE DONE... Last edited by rage'nrat638; 07-12-2007 at 07:01 AM.

11-18-2006, 11:29 PM	#24
Sweet72 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Alexandria, VA Posts: 1,534	Re: Sbc Overhauling 123 Top To Bottom W Pictures And Commentary Dang that's looking good! Can't wait to get my new 383 fired up. Need headers and exhaust. __________________ '72 GMC SWB C1500 Custom, frame-off in progress. 383 SBC, 9:1CR, Comp Cams XE262H, Scat internal balanced crank, Eagle SIR 6" rods, Keith Black dish pistons, Dart Iron Eagle 72/180 heads, Weiand Stealth intake, Stewart stage I water pump, Holley 4bbl vac sec, TH350 with B&M Shift Improver Kit. 12 bolt positraction.

11-19-2006, 10:45 PM	#25
rage'nrat638 Account Suspended Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: THE FALL GUY CHICAGO IL Posts: 5,883	Re: Sbc Overhauling 123 Top To Bottom W Pictures And Commentary well i am getting a ton of views on this post..but nobody's saying anything should i keep posting pictures.. as planned or call it a day... it takes a lot of time to take all these pictures and post them..are they doing any good? mark

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