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69face · 01-18-2007, 02:30 PM

I started building a truck for my little brother(he's 12) for his 12th birthday and i haven't posted anypics so here are some. sorry for being so tardy in posting.

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69face · 01-18-2007, 02:35 PM

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69face · 01-18-2007, 02:41 PM

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69face · 01-18-2007, 02:47 PM

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84 400 · 01-18-2007, 07:28 PM

WOWO nice project!!! i love the pic of the bed in the back of the elkiy!

**N2TRUX** · 01-18-2007, 11:18 PM

Holy crap. He's 12...?

69face · 01-19-2007, 12:15 AM

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69face · 01-19-2007, 12:30 AM

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69face · 01-19-2007, 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by N2TRUX

Holy crap. He's 12...?

yeah, i want to make sure he gets as much action in high school as possible. lol!

87 STEPPER · 01-19-2007, 05:41 AM

Nice project there but i'm confused on why you did that frame repair it looked like it was fine to me. Was it bent or cracking or something?

Just one sugestion i'd strip that TPI back to bare aluminum and clear it theres just too much black in that Eng. compartment.

69face · 01-19-2007, 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 87 STEPPER

Nice project there but i'm confused on why you did that frame repair it looked like it was fine to me. Was it bent or cracking or something?

Just one sugestion i'd strip that TPI back to bare aluminum and clear it theres just too much black in that Eng. compartment.

No it wasn't bent or cracking it was just a bit hideous. i want a person that knows absolutely nothing about cars or trucks to be able to look at these pics and not be grossed out by the snot welds the previous owner put on the frame. I'm trying to make it look like night when you open the hood that's why so much black.

Russell · 01-19-2007, 12:32 PM

One suggestion for future frame repairs, make the cut about half way down the frame rail on the front, then go back 5" and cut half way up from the bottom, then cut straight down the center from the front cut to the rear cut, then grind the edges down a bit to make a bevelled edge.

Then when you weld, you'll have a far stronger joint than if you weld straight down the frame like you did. The reason has to do with the way steel becomes brittle when you heat it way up like that, thereby hardening it. By welding it across the center of the rail like like I suggest, it has a greater area to dissipate heat, so no specific spot gets quite as hot. I'd also have reccommened fish plating the inside of the frame rail to add some more strength, esspecially on the frame rail with the steering box.

Too late now, but keep a close eye on that joint and watch for signs of cracking!

Otherwise, lookin' real good!

Tell us a bit more about the engine you've built -- What kind of heads are those? Camshaft specs? Compression ratio? Speed Density or MAF?

69face · 01-19-2007, 04:42 PM

thanks russel! I did put a diamond plate behind it and i used the reinforcement from a 3/4 pickup. The motor is a 4 bolt 350 w/ 624 thin casting heads 76cc 194in, 150 exhaust the cam is .480 intake/exhaust 270 adv duration 110 centerline comp cam flattop hypereutectic pistons, scat crank pink rods. The tpi is gasket and port matched using a maf system 52mm throttle body. built good enough to just drive and have fun. Im running a th 400 w/ shift kit. The rearend is a stock open end with 3.08 gears. I have two massive turbos that i got off of ebay that i am considering using but i just want it to run for now. also if i go turbo i would like to change over to speed density and use something like megasquirt, because it allows for 20 lbs of boost.

bodydropped · 01-22-2007, 11:20 AM

whats up with the rear end setup? u could of 2 link it in my opinion and made a little easier thou

Russell · 01-22-2007, 01:09 PM

You might have some trouble getting your TPI to run properly at an idle with that camshaft you bought. I've got a very similar cam in my TPI setup, and have an extremely rich idle (aka, blowing black smoke out the tailpipe). I'd suggest going with something that has specs similar to Comp Cam's XE256H Computer Control cam, it'll run very well in a TPI engine without a ton of chip changes. Aim to build have your powerband from idle through 5200 rpm, cause that is about all you'll get out of that intake with the mods you've listed

69face · 01-22-2007, 07:23 PM

i was thinking about the 2 link and then i saw n2trux's set up and decided to go in that direction.

bodydropped · 01-23-2007, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by 69face

i was thinking about the 2 link and then i saw n2trux's set up and decided to go in that direction.

i see my daily is sorta like kens rear end setup but the bags are on the rear of the leaf springs but im savin up for a ekstensive 2 link setup

**N2TRUX** · 01-23-2007, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by 69face

i was thinking about the 2 link and then i saw n2trux's set up and decided to go in that direction.

It looks like you only have one leaf in the pic. Just so you know, my set up uses the top 2 leafs.

Regardless of how it's set up the trucks progress is awesome. Keep the pics coming...

kenm78 · 01-22-2007, 07:32 PM

What a nice older brother!! "Want to be my big brother"????

84slopwaggin · 01-22-2007, 11:25 PM

Heck he could adopt us all. I got a swb gmc that has a rusted front passenger side upper shock mount that I'd like suggestions on. I have no experiece in dealing with this sort of problem. No welding skills or equipment. It's now mounted to a large washer that is screwed to the frame using

sheet metal screws. I bought the truck this way. Never even thought to look for rust in these areas. Although I've installed a crate engine I'm really unsure I want to keep this vehicle.

boxrodz · 01-24-2007, 03:28 AM

Nice build-up and good progress.

Looks like a nice place to do build-ups...

84 400 · 01-24-2007, 01:39 PM

it is gonna be sweeet when done! what a cool brother you are

Eyegore · 01-24-2007, 03:54 PM

OK, I want to know what your little brothers got on ya? That is just to awesome of a build up for a little brother, well at least for my little brother, wouldn't matter anyway he's 48.

71cheyennezz4 · 01-24-2007, 04:43 PM

Wow your really goin to town on that baby, im awaitin the finish!

01-18-2007, 02:30 PM	#1
69face Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: northridge Posts: 534	Little Brothers 74 Build Up! I started building a truck for my little brother(he's 12) for his 12th birthday and i haven't posted anypics so here are some. sorry for being so tardy in posting. __________________ ""A bagged vehicle is only as good as it's wheel/tire combo!" -getlowness! my build thread http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...=223747:metal: I'M SO SO CAL! Last edited by 69face; 01-19-2007 at 12:36 AM. Reason: mispell

01-18-2007, 02:35 PM	#2
69face Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: northridge Posts: 534	Re: Little Brothers 74 Build Up! more pics __________________ ""A bagged vehicle is only as good as it's wheel/tire combo!" -getlowness! my build thread http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...=223747:metal: I'M SO SO CAL!

01-18-2007, 02:41 PM	#3
69face Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: northridge Posts: 534	Re: Little Brothers 74 Build Up! __________________ ""A bagged vehicle is only as good as it's wheel/tire combo!" -getlowness! my build thread http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...=223747:metal: I'M SO SO CAL!

01-18-2007, 02:47 PM	#4
69face Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: northridge Posts: 534	Re: Little Brothers 74 Build Up! __________________ ""A bagged vehicle is only as good as it's wheel/tire combo!" -getlowness! my build thread http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...=223747:metal: I'M SO SO CAL!

01-18-2007, 07:28 PM	#5
84 400 Sb 400 club Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: NH / MA Posts: 2,746	Re: Little Brothers 74 Build Up! WOWO nice project!!! i love the pic of the bed in the back of the elkiy! __________________ 1984 chevy c10, built 400sb,.(SOLD) 77 K10 Project / daily driver "The Grinch" http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=318363 1956 Willys Wagon (327 chevy) Project (Now Buick 225) 1980 Corvette L-48 4 speed 1992 Mustang GT built 5.0 5 speed 1985 C10 LWB Sold 1982 K10 SWB plow truck Parted out 1986 D30 M1028 fire brush truck Parted out

01-18-2007, 11:18 PM	#6
N2TRUX Happy to be here Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: Cypress, TX Posts: 39,023	Re: Little Brothers 74 Build Up! Holy crap. He's 12...? __________________ Follow me on Facebook and Instagram @N2trux.com Articles- "Jake" the 84 to 74 crewcab "Elwood" the77_Remix 85 GMC Sierra "Scarlett" "Refining Sierra"

01-19-2007, 12:15 AM	#7
69face Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: northridge Posts: 534	Re: Little Brothers 74 Build Up! __________________ ""A bagged vehicle is only as good as it's wheel/tire combo!" -getlowness! my build thread http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...=223747:metal: I'M SO SO CAL!

01-19-2007, 12:22 AM	#8
69face Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: northridge Posts: 534	Re: Little Brothers 74 Build Up! __________________ ""A bagged vehicle is only as good as it's wheel/tire combo!" -getlowness! my build thread http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...=223747:metal: I'M SO SO CAL!

01-19-2007, 12:30 AM	#9
69face Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: northridge Posts: 534	Re: Little Brothers 74 Build Up! __________________ ""A bagged vehicle is only as good as it's wheel/tire combo!" -getlowness! my build thread http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...=223747:metal: I'M SO SO CAL!

01-19-2007, 05:41 AM	#11
87 STEPPER STILL PLAYS WITH TRUX Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Melbourne, Fla. Posts: 2,764	Re: Little Brothers 74 Build Up! Nice project there but i'm confused on why you did that frame repair it looked like it was fine to me. Was it bent or cracking or something? Just one sugestion i'd strip that TPI back to bare aluminum and clear it theres just too much black in that Eng. compartment. __________________ ~~Bruce~~ MY 87 STEPPER MY 99 2D/WD TAHOE

01-19-2007, 12:32 PM	#13
Russell Professional Grade Join Date: May 2003 Location: Fort McMurray, Alberta Posts: 7,915	Re: Little Brothers 74 Build Up! One suggestion for future frame repairs, make the cut about half way down the frame rail on the front, then go back 5" and cut half way up from the bottom, then cut straight down the center from the front cut to the rear cut, then grind the edges down a bit to make a bevelled edge. Then when you weld, you'll have a far stronger joint than if you weld straight down the frame like you did. The reason has to do with the way steel becomes brittle when you heat it way up like that, thereby hardening it. By welding it across the center of the rail like like I suggest, it has a greater area to dissipate heat, so no specific spot gets quite as hot. I'd also have reccommened fish plating the inside of the frame rail to add some more strength, esspecially on the frame rail with the steering box. Too late now, but keep a close eye on that joint and watch for signs of cracking! Otherwise, lookin' real good! Tell us a bit more about the engine you've built -- What kind of heads are those? Camshaft specs? Compression ratio? Speed Density or MAF? __________________ 1995 Chevrolet 2 Door Tahoe (6.6L LBZ Duramax / ZF6 / NP241 with 1 ton solid axle swap) Last edited by Russell; 01-19-2007 at 12:36 PM.

01-19-2007, 04:42 PM	#14
69face Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: northridge Posts: 534	Re: Little Brothers 74 Build Up! thanks russel! I did put a diamond plate behind it and i used the reinforcement from a 3/4 pickup. The motor is a 4 bolt 350 w/ 624 thin casting heads 76cc 194in, 150 exhaust the cam is .480 intake/exhaust 270 adv duration 110 centerline comp cam flattop hypereutectic pistons, scat crank pink rods. The tpi is gasket and port matched using a maf system 52mm throttle body. built good enough to just drive and have fun. Im running a th 400 w/ shift kit. The rearend is a stock open end with 3.08 gears. I have two massive turbos that i got off of ebay that i am considering using but i just want it to run for now. also if i go turbo i would like to change over to speed density and use something like megasquirt, because it allows for 20 lbs of boost. __________________ ""A bagged vehicle is only as good as it's wheel/tire combo!" -getlowness! my build thread http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...=223747:metal: I'M SO SO CAL!

01-22-2007, 11:20 AM	#15
bodydropped Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: beaumont,tx Posts: 757	Re: Little Brothers 74 Build Up! whats up with the rear end setup? u could of 2 link it in my opinion and made a little easier thou __________________ http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v5...ropped/sig.jpg

01-22-2007, 01:09 PM	#16
Russell Professional Grade Join Date: May 2003 Location: Fort McMurray, Alberta Posts: 7,915	Re: Little Brothers 74 Build Up! You might have some trouble getting your TPI to run properly at an idle with that camshaft you bought. I've got a very similar cam in my TPI setup, and have an extremely rich idle (aka, blowing black smoke out the tailpipe). I'd suggest going with something that has specs similar to Comp Cam's XE256H Computer Control cam, it'll run very well in a TPI engine without a ton of chip changes. Aim to build have your powerband from idle through 5200 rpm, cause that is about all you'll get out of that intake with the mods you've listed __________________ 1995 Chevrolet 2 Door Tahoe (6.6L LBZ Duramax / ZF6 / NP241 with 1 ton solid axle swap)

01-22-2007, 07:23 PM	#17
69face Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: northridge Posts: 534	Re: Little Brothers 74 Build Up! i was thinking about the 2 link and then i saw n2trux's set up and decided to go in that direction. __________________ ""A bagged vehicle is only as good as it's wheel/tire combo!" -getlowness! my build thread http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...=223747:metal: I'M SO SO CAL!



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01-22-2007, 07:32 PM	#20
kenm78 Broken Down Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Choctaw, Oklahoma Posts: 1,267	Re: Little Brothers 74 Build Up! What a nice older brother!! "Want to be my big brother"???? __________________ kenm78 1982 Chevy 4X4 Project truck “It’s better to keep your mouth shut and let people wonder about your ignorance, than open your mouth and reveal all doubt”

01-22-2007, 11:25 PM	#21
84slopwaggin Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Ar Posts: 558	Re: Little Brothers 74 Build Up! Heck he could adopt us all. I got a swb gmc that has a rusted front passenger side upper shock mount that I'd like suggestions on. I have no experiece in dealing with this sort of problem. No welding skills or equipment. It's now mounted to a large washer that is screwed to the frame using sheet metal screws. I bought the truck this way. Never even thought to look for rust in these areas. Although I've installed a crate engine I'm really unsure I want to keep this vehicle.

01-24-2007, 03:28 AM	#22
boxrodz Until Seventy Times Seven Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Rocky Mountain Front Range Posts: 1,301	Re: Little Brothers 74 Build Up! Nice build-up and good progress. Looks like a nice place to do build-ups... __________________ boxRODz 1983 C10 SWB Fleetside When two halves is gone, there's nuthin left. Two nothings is nuthin. That's mathematics son. You can argue with me but you can't argue with figures. Two half nothings is a whole nuthin...

01-24-2007, 01:39 PM	#23
84 400 Sb 400 club Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: NH / MA Posts: 2,746	Re: Little Brothers 74 Build Up! it is gonna be sweeet when done! what a cool brother you are __________________ 1984 chevy c10, built 400sb,.(SOLD) 77 K10 Project / daily driver "The Grinch" http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=318363 1956 Willys Wagon (327 chevy) Project (Now Buick 225) 1980 Corvette L-48 4 speed 1992 Mustang GT built 5.0 5 speed 1985 C10 LWB Sold 1982 K10 SWB plow truck Parted out 1986 D30 M1028 fire brush truck Parted out

01-24-2007, 03:54 PM	#24
Eyegore What Hump? Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: New River AZ Posts: 2,009	Re: Little Brothers 74 Build Up! OK, I want to know what your little brothers got on ya? That is just to awesome of a build up for a little brother, well at least for my little brother, wouldn't matter anyway he's 48. __________________ Lil red 86 c-10 99 Sub 78 Camper Special w/ 454

01-24-2007, 04:43 PM	#25
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