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Richard H. · 02-03-2007, 04:18 PM

Cookin some Hookers*, hooker recommends not using these headers for breaking the engine in because of paint failure / discoloring. My brother owns a Kustom paint shop in Indy and I ask him if the reason for this was the paint not being cured enough. He said that would be his guess so as soon as the wife left for her shopping trip I stuck one in. The coating was a lot harder compared to the uncooked one after four hours. Sure makes the house stink though, but it is a good stink..

meathead95 · 02-03-2007, 04:23 PM

oh your brave lol............. i have a 170k btu salamander that i bake my paint on with. I believe that there would lead my wife to going on a dinner cooking strike. lol................................................

piecesparts · 02-03-2007, 04:33 PM

The wife has to understand that the pay check isn't the only thing that she married. Rebuilt a motorcycle i n the living room before, still alive and married.

texanidiot25 · 02-03-2007, 05:09 PM

If she puts up with that, shes a keeper

jimmydean · 02-03-2007, 05:10 PM

I bought an oven like that for $20 at a yard sale. The top burners didn't work and I didn't care. A friend and I welded up a large boax with a front door and a window, mounted the oven elements on the bottom and mounted the controls on the top. It's what we use for powdercoating and it works great. I can fit a whole axle in there!

The best thing is the house doesn't stink and the wofe doesn't get mad

FarmTruk · 02-03-2007, 05:42 PM

Looks tender, juicy, and good enough to eat...when's dinner?

Longhorn Man · 02-03-2007, 05:59 PM

don't forget to use the dishwasher to clean your parts. If you run the dishwasher for a few moments first... to get the walls all wet... and then run it empty when you're done... with soap, your after use cleaning will be minimal.

OR...
a leaking dishwasher can be had for minimal money, and it could be a dedicated parts washer.

Richard H. · 02-03-2007, 06:36 PM

Since I do the cooking the stove doesn't bother her near as much as all the parts strewn around. At -15 deg wind chill here it will have to stay this way for a while. At least the rotating assembly parts are in the my shop.

GREASEMONKEY72 · 02-04-2007, 04:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Longhorn Man

don't forget to use the dishwasher to clean your parts. If you run the dishwasher for a few moments first... to get the walls all wet... and then run it empty when you're done... with soap, your after use cleaning will be minimal.

OR...
a leaking dishwasher can be had for minimal money, and it could be a dedicated parts washer.

i never thought of that and its a hell of alot cheaper than buying a parts washer

Pickles · 02-03-2007, 08:03 PM

mine *****ed because i rebuilt a carb on the kitchen table last thursday night and he dont cook or clean the kitchen. hehe

but i got-r-done

FarmTruk · 02-03-2007, 08:39 PM

Hookers...

It's what's fer dinner...

byrd · 02-03-2007, 08:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FarmTruk

Hookers...

It's what's fer dinner...

ghackett1 · 02-03-2007, 10:31 PM

Lots of laughs from this thread I loved it, but on a more serious note I think the reason header manufacturers don't recommend breaking motors in with certain finishes is because if your timing is off on initial break in your headers can get red hot and that causes even ceramic coated header coatings to fail not to mention just painted headers. My .02

**67 cst swb** · 05-08-2007, 11:59 AM

We used to cook headers in the oven at Dominos Pizza in Garland Texas... this was back in '91-'92... I wonder if anyone's pizza ever tasted like metal or black header paint...

Rollie396 · 05-08-2007, 02:07 PM

LOL my wife is the understanding sort when it comes to my project,but I'm pretty sure that would cross the line in this house!
Pizza oven huh?Good thinkin!

**special-K** · 05-09-2007, 06:39 AM

Curing coatings in a house and in an oven that food is served from is downright foolish.That is some of the most toxic stuff out there.We have powercoaters around here and they`ll cook you parts when they have a load for the oven.

**Zoomad75** · 05-09-2007, 10:57 AM

I've seen the ceramic coating get fried off a set of headers before. It was during the cam break in period. The carb was way lean and the kid didn't figure it out until later, but he had a standard rotation water pump on his serpentine belt setup, so the engine wouldn't cool at all.

A couple of the pipes went from dull cherry red to bright red halfway through the cam break in.

Once they cooled you could see the damage was done.

I wouldn't use an oven you cook with to bake any parts. Like others have said, get a cheapy off of craigslist and use it.

02-03-2007, 04:18 PM	#1
Richard H. Spanked once Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Intheshop, Indiana Posts: 969	Cooking headers or... Cookin some Hookers*, hooker recommends not using these headers for breaking the engine in because of paint failure / discoloring. My brother owns a Kustom paint shop in Indy and I ask him if the reason for this was the paint not being cured enough. He said that would be his guess so as soon as the wife left for her shopping trip I stuck one in. The coating was a lot harder compared to the uncooked one after four hours. Sure makes the house stink though, but it is a good stink.. Attached Images

02-03-2007, 04:23 PM	#2
meathead95 computer illiterate Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Des Moines, IA Posts: 6,446	Re: Cooking headers or... oh your brave lol............. i have a 170k btu salamander that i bake my paint on with. I believe that there would lead my wife to going on a dinner cooking strike. lol................................................ __________________ 72 2wd blazer 72 swb 4x4

02-03-2007, 04:33 PM	#3
piecesparts Parts and more parts Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Lebo, Kansas (middle of nowhere Posts: 6,821	Re: Cooking headers or... The wife has to understand that the pay check isn't the only thing that she married. Rebuilt a motorcycle i n the living room before, still alive and married. Last edited by piecesparts; 02-03-2007 at 04:34 PM.

02-03-2007, 05:09 PM	#4
texanidiot25 Eat My Rust Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Cypress, Texas Posts: 3,362	Re: Cooking headers or... If she puts up with that, shes a keeper

02-03-2007, 05:10 PM	#5
jimmydean Registered User Join Date: May 2005 Location: Beaverton, OR Posts: 3,728	Re: Cooking headers or... I bought an oven like that for $20 at a yard sale. The top burners didn't work and I didn't care. A friend and I welded up a large boax with a front door and a window, mounted the oven elements on the bottom and mounted the controls on the top. It's what we use for powdercoating and it works great. I can fit a whole axle in there! The best thing is the house doesn't stink and the wofe doesn't get mad __________________ New Project: 1966 LWB C20 Plans: 1/2 ton conversion Dropmember front Dropmember rear Corvette discs Restored raised bed http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s....php?p=4295210

02-03-2007, 05:42 PM	#6
FarmTruk In Memoriam... Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Wallburg, NC Posts: 1,216	Re: Cooking headers or... Looks tender, juicy, and good enough to eat...when's dinner? __________________ '68 C10 SWB 307ci 2BBL *FarmTruk Pics Here* *"You know, doing what is right is easy. The problem is knowing what is right."*

02-03-2007, 05:59 PM	#7
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,693	Re: Cooking headers or... don't forget to use the dishwasher to clean your parts. If you run the dishwasher for a few moments first... to get the walls all wet... and then run it empty when you're done... with soap, your after use cleaning will be minimal. OR... a leaking dishwasher can be had for minimal money, and it could be a dedicated parts washer.

02-03-2007, 06:36 PM	#8
Richard H. Spanked once Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Intheshop, Indiana Posts: 969	Re: Cooking headers or... Since I do the cooking the stove doesn't bother her near as much as all the parts strewn around. At -15 deg wind chill here it will have to stay this way for a while. At least the rotating assembly parts are in the my shop. Attached Images

02-03-2007, 08:03 PM	#10
Pickles Registered User Join Date: May 2006 Location: Dickson,Tn Posts: 811	Re: Cooking headers or... mine *****ed because i rebuilt a carb on the kitchen table last thursday night and he dont cook or clean the kitchen. hehe but i got-r-done __________________ Pickles

02-03-2007, 08:39 PM	#11
FarmTruk In Memoriam... Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Wallburg, NC Posts: 1,216	Re: Cooking headers or... Hookers... It's what's fer dinner... __________________ '68 C10 SWB 307ci 2BBL *FarmTruk Pics Here* *"You know, doing what is right is easy. The problem is knowing what is right."*

02-03-2007, 10:31 PM	#13
ghackett1 68 C10 Longbed Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Naples, Florida Posts: 518	Re: Cooking headers or... Lots of laughs from this thread I loved it, but on a more serious note I think the reason header manufacturers don't recommend breaking motors in with certain finishes is because if your timing is off on initial break in your headers can get red hot and that causes even ceramic coated header coatings to fail not to mention just painted headers. My .02

05-08-2007, 11:59 AM	#14
67 cst swb Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Rapid City, SD Posts: 2,281	Re: Cooking headers or... We used to cook headers in the oven at Dominos Pizza in Garland Texas... this was back in '91-'92... I wonder if anyone's pizza ever tasted like metal or black header paint... __________________ My Trucks: 1967 Chevrolet Short Wide Box 327 TH350 9" w/3.90 gears paint will be White - Current Project 1967 Chevrolet Custom LWB 283 TH400 3.73 Posi, no-AC, no-PS, no-PB, bench-seat, small-window - mostly orig driver 1967 Chevrolet CST LWB originally a 327 TH400 3.73 Posi AC PS PB, had Buddy Buckets, Small Window - parts truck 1967 Chevrolet CST LWB, 283 MT 3.73 had Buddy Buckets, Panoramic Window - parts truck 2001 Chevrolet 3500 2WD Crew Cab Dually 8.1L Allison White

05-08-2007, 02:07 PM	#15
Rollie396 someday it will be done! Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Lloydminster,AB. Canada Posts: 1,620	Re: Cooking headers or... LOL my wife is the understanding sort when it comes to my project,but I'm pretty sure that would cross the line in this house! Pizza oven huh?Good thinkin! __________________ '72 C-10 Proud owner of a million new and used pieces that used to be and will once again be(god willing) a testament to the term "they don't build em like that anymore. '80 LWB 2wd beater '67 GMC long fleet (cab donor) '66 long step (parked till it's turn comes around) '65 short step (parts truck that will donate it's bed and possibly frame to the '66) '06 Grand Prix wife's car (she hardly lets me touch it) my pics

05-09-2007, 06:39 AM	#16
special-K Special Order Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Mt Airy, MD Posts: 85,852	Re: Cooking headers or... Curing coatings in a house and in an oven that food is served from is downright foolish.That is some of the most toxic stuff out there.We have powercoaters around here and they`ll cook you parts when they have a load for the oven. __________________ "BUILDING A BETTER WAY TO SERVE THE USA"......67/72......"The New Breed" GMC '67 C1500 Wideside Super Custom SWB: 327/M22/3.42 posi.........."The '67" (project) GMC '72 K2500 Wideside Sierra Custom Camper: 350/TH350/4.10 Power-Lok..."The '72" (rolling) Tim "Don't call me a redneck. I'm a rough cut country gentleman" R.I.P. ~ East Side Low Life ~ El Jay ~ 72BLUZ ~ Fasteddie69 ~ Ron586 ~ 67ChevyRedneck ~ Grumpy Old Man ~

05-09-2007, 10:57 AM	#17
Zoomad75 K5Camper Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Pueblo, CO Posts: 1,513	Re: Cooking headers or... I've seen the ceramic coating get fried off a set of headers before. It was during the cam break in period. The carb was way lean and the kid didn't figure it out until later, but he had a standard rotation water pump on his serpentine belt setup, so the engine wouldn't cool at all. A couple of the pipes went from dull cherry red to bright red halfway through the cam break in. Once they cooled you could see the damage was done. I wouldn't use an oven you cook with to bake any parts. Like others have said, get a cheapy off of craigslist and use it. __________________ Rob Z. 1975 K5 350/465/205/D44/12b 4" lift on 35's- RIP 1991 K5 8.1L/NV4500/241/D44/14b FWC Camper



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