454/4 spd truck - The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network

tavenner13 · 04-19-2007, 09:39 AM

anybody got any? talk about cool factor. im thinking about building my own given the 4 spd parts trucks available in my area. everyone loves the 454/4 spd combo in the cars so what about in a street truck? think this would do anything for overall value?

Spray-Bomb · 04-19-2007, 10:18 AM

Do It !!!

What kind of 4-speed is it ?

You gonna sell parts off this truck ?

russellmarling · 04-19-2007, 12:52 PM

Count me in! I have a 454 and a muncie 4 speed in my truck. Be aware that if you are thinking about doing this you will probably have to fab up your own clutch linkage. Big block 4 speed parts trucks are almost non-existent. I made a my z-bar from a small block one by sectioning it and making a new arm for it (pictured below) I also fabbed up a steel plate with the pivot ball on it that mounts to the block. It was worth the effort- its very fun to drive. If you need any more info on this just let me know. -russ

Bishops Trucks · 04-19-2007, 12:58 PM

I'm doing a 427 Taldeck and M21 4-speed in mine. Muscle Trucks are cool!

mnunn454 · 04-20-2007, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Bishops Trucks

I'm doing a 427 Taldeck and M21 4-speed in mine. Muscle Trucks are cool!

OLDIRON69 · 04-19-2007, 01:30 PM

I'll give you all the 3 speed stuff off my truck, Z-bar, brackets, I don't know if the cross member would work, but you can have that too. I'm only a half hour at the most from ya.

tavenner13 · 04-20-2007, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by OLDIRON69

I'll give you all the 3 speed stuff off my truck, Z-bar, brackets, I don't know if the cross member would work, but you can have that too. I'm only a half hour at the most from ya.

ill keep you in mind

thanks alot!!

lukecp · 04-19-2007, 01:41 PM

Keep in mind that if you use a truck 4-speed it will be pretty hard and slow to shift. You won't be able to bang through the gears like you can with a car 4-speed...the same engine with an automatic transmission would be quicker because you aren't going to have to slowly shift the transmission.

chc · 04-19-2007, 01:50 PM

Driving daily , a 1 ton c30 350w/ 4 speed I completely agree.
chc

**special-K** · 04-19-2007, 11:40 PM

The Muncies would use the 3spd linkage.
Value?I wouldn`t do it for that.

tavenner13 · 04-19-2007, 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by special-K

The Muncies would use the 3spd linkage.
Value?I wouldn`t do it for that.

i wouldnt be doing it FOR the value i was just asking if it would make the value of the truck any higher as far as rarity goes. rare = cool!

Bishops Trucks · 04-19-2007, 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by tavenner13

i wouldnt be doing it FOR the value i was just asking if it would make the value of the truck any higher as far as rarity goes. rare = cool!

There's no rarity in a modified truck.

tavenner13 · 04-20-2007, 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Bishops Trucks

There's no rarity in a modified truck.

not factory rarity just rarity in general, i dont see many people building 454/4 spd trucks... yet everyone and their uncle are cloning the mess out of the big block/4 spd cars. any thoughts?

Bishops Trucks · 04-20-2007, 12:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tavenner13

not factory rarity just rarity in general, i dont see many people building 454/4 spd trucks... yet everyone and their uncle are cloning the mess out of the big block/4 spd cars. any thoughts?

I see where you are going with this. I'm building my truck into a "Yenko S/T" 427 with an M21 4-speed and 12 bolt posi. Everything will look as close to factory built as possible, what Chevrolet would have produced had they put one out in '68.

WinDancer · 04-20-2007, 03:41 AM

tavenner13
I just responded to your other post about parts- asking about the stuff for a stick conversion... now I see you have already done it. I want the muncie 4 speed like in the old Chevelles [I had a 66- sweetest car I ever owned]
Will the stick stuff from a truck work with the muncie? The swing pedal, linkage, Bell Housing, all that?
Don't know about the value to anyone elsed but I thiunk the big block muscle truck ROCK!
Just ordered a line lock for my 69 GMC SWB 396.....

**special-K** · 04-20-2007, 06:45 AM

The muscle cars were available with 4-on-the-floor.That`s why cloning a factory 4 speed helps the value on those.Not necessarily add dollar value,but gives "WOW" factor and desireability to set off the no BS performance appeal of muscle cars.Especially since most came through with autos.The mindset was towards autos for quicker ETs by the late`60s.
But,since these trucks didn`t come with then,it`s not a clone.It would be just another way to go with modifying.I`m a shifter from day 1 and that`s what I like.People have come around to the cool factor of a 4-on-the-floor and guys are doing what you want to do.I have a friend that only runs 4 speed in everything he owns.I say go for it(you didn`t need that,I know).It won`t hurt it,that`s for way damn sure.

Bishops Trucks · 04-20-2007, 07:08 AM

I kinda parcial to banging gears to Tim.

Luvlegs · 04-20-2007, 07:28 AM

I'm building a 454 to make 500 hp right now but it'll be dragging the ol' 400 behind it - I want to drink my coffee and smoke while I'm cruising (getting old - hahah) All the leg lifts and arm motion are for the gym and I quit going to the gym when they took all the ashtrays off the stairmasters!

**special-K** · 04-20-2007, 08:39 AM

Different strokes...If there`s a will,there`s a way.I can do all that and drive a stick.When the effort to lift a leg to push a clutch pedal and move my arm up and down to shift get`s to be too much,someone please shoot me.I can drink coffee while I ride my Harley

.I never have smoked...tobacco.

BB72CHEVKT · 04-20-2007, 07:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by special-K

Different strokes...If there`s a will,there`s a way.I can do all that and drive a stick.When the effort to lift a leg to push a clutch pedal and move my arm up and down to shift get`s to be too much,someone please shoot me.I can drink coffee while I ride my Harley

.I never have smoked...tobacco.

never smoked tobacco either

bayer20 · 04-20-2007, 07:36 PM

Anyone knows if I can use a 6 speed tremec transmission from a firebird on my sbc 383?

**special-K** · 04-21-2007, 01:05 AM

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Originally Posted by bayer20

Anyone knows if I can use a 6 speed tremec transmission from a firebird on my sbc 383?

Not for long,from what I`ve heard.

tavenner13 · 04-20-2007, 07:51 PM

if i can get ahold of a car 4 spd then im gonna make the change. might even be FAQ material someday who knows. im new to chevys so yall help me which 4 speeds should i keep an eye out for?

**LockDoc** · 04-20-2007, 09:52 PM

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Not to hijack the thread but I had a '67 short step years ago with a six cyl. and muncie 4 speed, & it was a column shift. Anything can be done.....

LockDoc

tavenner13 · 04-21-2007, 12:01 AM

also about how much would it cost (ballpark) to convert an auto to a floor shift 4 spd?

LockDoc - your signature doesnt make any sense. my saying always was, "sex is alot like fishin. when its good, its good. and when its bad, well its still pretty damn good."

04-19-2007, 09:39 AM	#1
tavenner13 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Tyler, Texas Posts: 559	454/4 spd truck anybody got any? talk about cool factor. im thinking about building my own given the 4 spd parts trucks available in my area. everyone loves the 454/4 spd combo in the cars so what about in a street truck? think this would do anything for overall value?

04-19-2007, 10:18 AM	#2
Spray-Bomb Texas Big Wig Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Mineola, Texas Posts: 5,620	Re: 454/4 spd truck Do It !!! What kind of 4-speed is it ? You gonna sell parts off this truck ? __________________ Just not low enough... ----------------------------- Sinister Killer

04-19-2007, 12:52 PM	#3
russellmarling Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Highlands, NC Posts: 138	Re: 454/4 spd truck Count me in! I have a 454 and a muncie 4 speed in my truck. Be aware that if you are thinking about doing this you will probably have to fab up your own clutch linkage. Big block 4 speed parts trucks are almost non-existent. I made a my z-bar from a small block one by sectioning it and making a new arm for it (pictured below) I also fabbed up a steel plate with the pivot ball on it that mounts to the block. It was worth the effort- its very fun to drive. If you need any more info on this just let me know. -russ __________________ '70 GMC SWB step-side- 454, 4 speed, air bags (in progress) '09 CTS-V M6 '03 Sierra SWB Z71 '82 Yamaha Seca XJ650R Turbo! '04 Yamaha FZ6

04-19-2007, 12:58 PM	#4
Bishops Trucks KEEP ON TRUCKIN' Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Sterling, Va. Posts: 5,730	Re: 454/4 spd truck I'm doing a 427 Taldeck and M21 4-speed in mine. Muscle Trucks are cool! __________________ JIM '97 GMC Sierra K1500 '95 Chevy Silverado C1500 '71 Cheyenne Z71 / LT1 & 4-Speed SWB K/10 Father/Son Project http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4l689JKXPnA http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/payments.php "LIVIN' FREE FOREVER"

04-19-2007, 01:30 PM	#6
OLDIRON69 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Ben Wheeler,Texas Posts: 992	Re: 454/4 spd truck I'll give you all the 3 speed stuff off my truck, Z-bar, brackets, I don't know if the cross member would work, but you can have that too. I'm only a half hour at the most from ya. __________________ 05 2500HD 6.0 excab 69 LWB-Gone but not forgotten! 68 Dodge Charger 383/727 69 Dodge Charger-440/4spd

04-19-2007, 01:41 PM	#8
lukecp Formerly yellow72custom Join Date: May 2001 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 7,531	Re: 454/4 spd truck Keep in mind that if you use a truck 4-speed it will be pretty hard and slow to shift. You won't be able to bang through the gears like you can with a car 4-speed...the same engine with an automatic transmission would be quicker because you aren't going to have to slowly shift the transmission. __________________ '72 Chevy C10 Mild 350/TH350/3.07. Ochre/White. Old high school ride. '70 GMC C2500 '62 327 4bbl/SM465/4.56-geared Dana 60. White/White. Project or parts truck. '97 Saturn SL DD. 1.9/5-speed. 40+ highway mpg

04-19-2007, 01:50 PM	#9
chc Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Covina, CA Posts: 15	Re: 454/4 spd truck Driving daily , a 1 ton c30 350w/ 4 speed I completely agree. chc

04-19-2007, 11:40 PM	#10
special-K Special Order Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Mt Airy, MD Posts: 85,851	Re: 454/4 spd truck The Muncies would use the 3spd linkage. Value?I wouldn`t do it for that. __________________ "BUILDING A BETTER WAY TO SERVE THE USA"......67/72......"The New Breed" GMC '67 C1500 Wideside Super Custom SWB: 327/M22/3.42 posi.........."The '67" (project) GMC '72 K2500 Wideside Sierra Custom Camper: 350/TH350/4.10 Power-Lok..."The '72" (rolling) Tim "Don't call me a redneck. I'm a rough cut country gentleman" R.I.P. ~ East Side Low Life ~ El Jay ~ 72BLUZ ~ Fasteddie69 ~ Ron586 ~ 67ChevyRedneck ~ Grumpy Old Man ~

04-20-2007, 03:41 AM	#15
WinDancer The Original HotRod KnifeMaker Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Tenino, Washington Posts: 811	Re: 454/4 spd truck tavenner13 I just responded to your other post about parts- asking about the stuff for a stick conversion... now I see you have already done it. I want the muncie 4 speed like in the old Chevelles [I had a 66- sweetest car I ever owned] Will the stick stuff from a truck work with the muncie? The swing pedal, linkage, Bell Housing, all that? Don't know about the value to anyone elsed but I thiunk the big block muscle truck ROCK! Just ordered a line lock for my 69 GMC SWB 396..... __________________ Dave 69 GMC SWB 2WD 454 Turbo 400

04-20-2007, 06:45 AM	#16
special-K Special Order Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Mt Airy, MD Posts: 85,851	Re: 454/4 spd truck The muscle cars were available with 4-on-the-floor.That`s why cloning a factory 4 speed helps the value on those.Not necessarily add dollar value,but gives "WOW" factor and desireability to set off the no BS performance appeal of muscle cars.Especially since most came through with autos.The mindset was towards autos for quicker ETs by the late`60s. But,since these trucks didn`t come with then,it`s not a clone.It would be just another way to go with modifying.I`m a shifter from day 1 and that`s what I like.People have come around to the cool factor of a 4-on-the-floor and guys are doing what you want to do.I have a friend that only runs 4 speed in everything he owns.I say go for it(you didn`t need that,I know).It won`t hurt it,that`s for way damn sure. __________________ "BUILDING A BETTER WAY TO SERVE THE USA"......67/72......"The New Breed" GMC '67 C1500 Wideside Super Custom SWB: 327/M22/3.42 posi.........."The '67" (project) GMC '72 K2500 Wideside Sierra Custom Camper: 350/TH350/4.10 Power-Lok..."The '72" (rolling) Tim "Don't call me a redneck. I'm a rough cut country gentleman" R.I.P. ~ East Side Low Life ~ El Jay ~ 72BLUZ ~ Fasteddie69 ~ Ron586 ~ 67ChevyRedneck ~ Grumpy Old Man ~

04-20-2007, 07:08 AM	#17
Bishops Trucks KEEP ON TRUCKIN' Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Sterling, Va. Posts: 5,730	Re: 454/4 spd truck I kinda parcial to banging gears to Tim. __________________ JIM '97 GMC Sierra K1500 '95 Chevy Silverado C1500 '71 Cheyenne Z71 / LT1 & 4-Speed SWB K/10 Father/Son Project http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4l689JKXPnA http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/payments.php "LIVIN' FREE FOREVER"

04-20-2007, 07:28 AM	#18
Luvlegs Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Smith Mountain Lake Virginia Posts: 1,537	Re: 454/4 spd truck I'm building a 454 to make 500 hp right now but it'll be dragging the ol' 400 behind it - I want to drink my coffee and smoke while I'm cruising (getting old - hahah) All the leg lifts and arm motion are for the gym and I quit going to the gym when they took all the ashtrays off the stairmasters! __________________ "A cat will almost always blink when hit between the eyes with a ball peen hammer" (you don't always have to state the obvious) Wear your PPE! You can eat with false teeth but you can't see with a false eye. 1959 Studebaker Silverhawk 350/400 1972 C10 L6 3OTT 2005 F350 - Built - whew!

04-20-2007, 08:39 AM	#19
special-K Special Order Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Mt Airy, MD Posts: 85,851	Re: 454/4 spd truck Different strokes...If there`s a will,there`s a way.I can do all that and drive a stick.When the effort to lift a leg to push a clutch pedal and move my arm up and down to shift get`s to be too much,someone please shoot me.I can drink coffee while I ride my Harley.I never have smoked...tobacco. __________________ "BUILDING A BETTER WAY TO SERVE THE USA"......67/72......"The New Breed" GMC '67 C1500 Wideside Super Custom SWB: 327/M22/3.42 posi.........."The '67" (project) GMC '72 K2500 Wideside Sierra Custom Camper: 350/TH350/4.10 Power-Lok..."The '72" (rolling) Tim "Don't call me a redneck. I'm a rough cut country gentleman" R.I.P. ~ East Side Low Life ~ El Jay ~ 72BLUZ ~ Fasteddie69 ~ Ron586 ~ 67ChevyRedneck ~ Grumpy Old Man ~

04-20-2007, 07:36 PM	#21
bayer20 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Fayetteville, NC Posts: 83	Re: 454/4 spd truck Anyone knows if I can use a 6 speed tremec transmission from a firebird on my sbc 383? __________________ There is no replacement for displacement!

04-20-2007, 07:51 PM	#23
tavenner13 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Tyler, Texas Posts: 559	Re: 454/4 spd truck if i can get ahold of a car 4 spd then im gonna make the change. might even be FAQ material someday who knows. im new to chevys so yall help me which 4 speeds should i keep an eye out for?



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04-20-2007, 09:52 PM	#24
LockDoc The Older Generation Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Montezuma, Iowa Posts: 25,876	Re: 454/4 spd truck - Not to hijack the thread but I had a '67 short step years ago with a six cyl. and muncie 4 speed, & it was a column shift. Anything can be done..... LockDoc __________________ Leon Locksmith, Specializing In Antique Trucks, Automobiles, & Motorcycles (My Dually Pickup Project Thread) http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=829820 -

04-21-2007, 12:01 AM	#25
tavenner13 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Tyler, Texas Posts: 559	Re: 454/4 spd truck also about how much would it cost (ballpark) to convert an auto to a floor shift 4 spd? LockDoc - your signature doesnt make any sense. my saying always was, "sex is alot like fishin. when its good, its good. and when its bad, well its still pretty damn good." Last edited by tavenner13; 04-21-2007 at 12:05 AM.

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