The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network







Register or Log In To remove these advertisements.

Go Back   The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network > General Truck Forums > Suspension

Web 67-72chevytrucks.com


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 06-02-2007, 09:53 PM   #1
blazntn
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: TN
Posts: 204
Independent Rear?

Ok I know Nathan has installed several Corvette rears in trucks. I was wondering if there is another alternative. The vette's just doesnt give the lift I want. A buddy told me to look for a supra rearend. Has anyone used theseor have any experience with them?

thanks
Brad Walker
www.gaugemagazine.com
blazntn is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-02-2007, 10:25 PM   #2
SCOTI
Registered User
 
SCOTI's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: DALLAS,TX
Posts: 22,031
Re: Independent Rear?

What about the Ford Expedition IRS?
__________________
67SWB-B.B.RetroRod
64SWB-Recycle
89CCDually-Driver/Tow Truck
99CCSWB Driver
All Fleetsides
@rattlecankustoms in IG

Building a small, high rpm engine with the perfect bore, stroke and rod ratio is very impressive.
It's like a highly skilled Morrocan sword fighter with a Damascus Steel Scimitar.....

Cubic inches is like Indiana Jones with a cheap pistol.
SCOTI is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-02-2007, 10:29 PM   #3
1LoC10
Insert Title Here
 
1LoC10's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Dyer, Indiana
Posts: 5,679
Re: Independent Rear?

there are alot of 03-04 Cobra rears on ebay.. I have thinking about trying
__________________
BOBBY
_69 SWB_

1000 pics of 67-72's>> http://s193.photobucket.com/albums/z...-72/?start=all <<
1LoC10 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-02-2007, 10:35 PM   #4
cstanley
Senior Member
 
cstanley's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Austin, TX
Posts: 1,229
Re: Independent Rear?

i'd 2nd the expedition and i think even the exploder has 'em as well.
__________________
"Anybody who would paint his truck like this, would go to a minister's funeral dressed in feathers!" - Big Enis Burdett

'72 Blazer Restoration Blog: http://sportchicken.blogspot.com/
cstanley is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-02-2007, 11:01 PM   #5
PBFAB.COM
Senior Member
 
PBFAB.COM's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Mesa,Az
Posts: 3,981
Re: Independent Rear?

How much lift are you looking for Brad? I am getting 10" out of the C4.

If you need more than that you'll need something with CVs and axles... not halfshafts.
__________________
www.PorterbuiltFabrication.com

Phone: 480-297-2621

E-mail: sales@pbfab.com


Find us on FaceBook under Porterbuilt Fabrication

Specializing in Chassis and Suspension Components for your Classic Chevrolet Truck.

We offer components from the following manufacturers:

Porterbuilt
Accuair
Ridetech (Air Ride Technologies)
Air Lift
Wilwood
Intro
Unisteer
ECE
Gotta Show
Air Lift
Borgeson
CPP


Supporting this forum since 2003!
PBFAB.COM is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-03-2007, 08:28 AM   #6
blazntn
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: TN
Posts: 204
Re: Independent Rear?

nathan is 10" not binding up. I will be setting the rear ride hieght to match my dropmember. But I will need to get it on the trailer and stuff like that.
blazntn is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-03-2007, 10:02 PM   #7
PBFAB.COM
Senior Member
 
PBFAB.COM's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Mesa,Az
Posts: 3,981
Re: Independent Rear?

10 will not bind if you set it up right. Getting it on a trailer should not be a problem. I have been setting them up at a 5" ride height... 3 up from there is plenty to get it on a trailer.
__________________
www.PorterbuiltFabrication.com

Phone: 480-297-2621

E-mail: sales@pbfab.com


Find us on FaceBook under Porterbuilt Fabrication

Specializing in Chassis and Suspension Components for your Classic Chevrolet Truck.

We offer components from the following manufacturers:

Porterbuilt
Accuair
Ridetech (Air Ride Technologies)
Air Lift
Wilwood
Intro
Unisteer
ECE
Gotta Show
Air Lift
Borgeson
CPP


Supporting this forum since 2003!
PBFAB.COM is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-04-2007, 06:12 AM   #8
blazntn
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: TN
Posts: 204
Re: Independent Rear?

ok cool, I am going to start looking for a rear then. What are good years to get them out of? Any I should stay away from?
blazntn is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-04-2007, 11:31 AM   #9
PBFAB.COM
Senior Member
 
PBFAB.COM's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Mesa,Az
Posts: 3,981
Re: Independent Rear?

I only use the 1988-1996.
__________________
www.PorterbuiltFabrication.com

Phone: 480-297-2621

E-mail: sales@pbfab.com


Find us on FaceBook under Porterbuilt Fabrication

Specializing in Chassis and Suspension Components for your Classic Chevrolet Truck.

We offer components from the following manufacturers:

Porterbuilt
Accuair
Ridetech (Air Ride Technologies)
Air Lift
Wilwood
Intro
Unisteer
ECE
Gotta Show
Air Lift
Borgeson
CPP


Supporting this forum since 2003!
PBFAB.COM is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-04-2007, 05:30 PM   #10
blazntn
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: TN
Posts: 204
Re: Independent Rear?

what will I have to change or is it a fairly straight forward install. Meaning I dont have to narrow anything. What about driveshafts
blazntn is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-04-2007, 07:36 PM   #11
PBFAB.COM
Senior Member
 
PBFAB.COM's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Mesa,Az
Posts: 3,981
Re: Independent Rear?

Quote:
Originally Posted by blazntn View Post
what will I have to change or is it a fairly straight forward install. Meaning I dont have to narrow anything. What about driveshafts
The width is just right. The only thing you will need/want to change would be the link bars that locate the hub fore and aft, (make them longer) and then the rear radius rods that locate the toe of the hub (locate them to the bottom side of the steering arm).
__________________
www.PorterbuiltFabrication.com

Phone: 480-297-2621

E-mail: sales@pbfab.com


Find us on FaceBook under Porterbuilt Fabrication

Specializing in Chassis and Suspension Components for your Classic Chevrolet Truck.

We offer components from the following manufacturers:

Porterbuilt
Accuair
Ridetech (Air Ride Technologies)
Air Lift
Wilwood
Intro
Unisteer
ECE
Gotta Show
Air Lift
Borgeson
CPP


Supporting this forum since 2003!
PBFAB.COM is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-05-2007, 06:19 AM   #12
blazntn
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: TN
Posts: 204
Re: Independent Rear?

ok thanks for all the help. I have talked to my fabricator and we are going to start looking for an independent rear.
blazntn is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-06-2007, 05:22 PM   #13
blazntn
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: TN
Posts: 204
Re: Independent Rear?

Nathan, have you, or anyone else, used an independent rear out of anything else? I know Mike at Sport Truck Mag is using one out of a ford suv. I was just wondering if there are any other good alternatives. My fabricator is telling me I am only going to get 4-5" out of the Vette, even though Nathan says 10". I am kinda stuck between a rock and a hard place, I really want to run an independent, but I need the lift.
blazntn is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-06-2007, 06:26 PM   #14
PBFAB.COM
Senior Member
 
PBFAB.COM's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Mesa,Az
Posts: 3,981
Re: Independent Rear?

Quote:
Originally Posted by blazntn View Post
Nathan, have you, or anyone else, used an independent rear out of anything else? I know Mike at Sport Truck Mag is using one out of a ford suv. I was just wondering if there are any other good alternatives. My fabricator is telling me I am only going to get 4-5" out of the Vette, even though Nathan says 10". I am kinda stuck between a rock and a hard place, I really want to run an independent, but I need the lift.
4-5 inches????? Have him call me!

Nate
__________________
www.PorterbuiltFabrication.com

Phone: 480-297-2621

E-mail: sales@pbfab.com


Find us on FaceBook under Porterbuilt Fabrication

Specializing in Chassis and Suspension Components for your Classic Chevrolet Truck.

We offer components from the following manufacturers:

Porterbuilt
Accuair
Ridetech (Air Ride Technologies)
Air Lift
Wilwood
Intro
Unisteer
ECE
Gotta Show
Air Lift
Borgeson
CPP


Supporting this forum since 2003!
PBFAB.COM is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-06-2007, 09:24 PM   #15
blazntn
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: TN
Posts: 204
Re: Independent Rear?

ya I will! it may be a while. we are going to sit down and finalize the design this weekend. is there anyway to mount a regular bag? I want a low floor, not a cantilever setup like yours. If it is possible!
blazntn is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-07-2007, 12:13 AM   #16
PBFAB.COM
Senior Member
 
PBFAB.COM's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Mesa,Az
Posts: 3,981
Re: Independent Rear?

Quote:
Originally Posted by blazntn View Post
ya I will! it may be a while. we are going to sit down and finalize the design this weekend. is there anyway to mount a regular bag? I want a low floor, not a cantilever setup like yours. If it is possible!
I have seen it where the four-link bars that locate the hub are modified into a trailing arm... and a bag levered off of it. It wasn't the cleanest looking thing... but if done right... who knows? Other than that it would need a canti-levered/rocker arm type set-up to get the lift. There are a number of different ways to mount these configurations... not just poking up out of the bed. I am serious... have your guy call me if he needs some pointers or help setting it up... I have done a few! (I am sure he is capable of figuring it out himself, but sometimes it can be easier if somebody fills you in on a couple of things). I know a ton of ways that it WON'T work!
__________________
www.PorterbuiltFabrication.com

Phone: 480-297-2621

E-mail: sales@pbfab.com


Find us on FaceBook under Porterbuilt Fabrication

Specializing in Chassis and Suspension Components for your Classic Chevrolet Truck.

We offer components from the following manufacturers:

Porterbuilt
Accuair
Ridetech (Air Ride Technologies)
Air Lift
Wilwood
Intro
Unisteer
ECE
Gotta Show
Air Lift
Borgeson
CPP


Supporting this forum since 2003!
PBFAB.COM is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-07-2007, 12:27 AM   #17
cajundragger
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: louisiana
Posts: 1,008
Re: Independent Rear?

anyone have pics of the 67-72 with the expedition rear?
cajundragger is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-07-2007, 12:28 AM   #18
cajundragger
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: louisiana
Posts: 1,008
Re: Independent Rear?

and you could make rear links like the kp setup to give you your lift and stay under the floor...
cajundragger is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-07-2007, 06:21 AM   #19
blazntn
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: TN
Posts: 204
Re: Independent Rear?

Thanks Nathan, I will have him contact you a little later on in the build. We are still in the early stages of planning it right now. What is the bolt pattern on the vette? How is a good way to make them match the front?
blazntn is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-07-2007, 09:08 AM   #20
N2TRUX
Happy to be here
 
N2TRUX's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2000
Location: Cypress, TX
Posts: 39,023
Re: Independent Rear?

Quote:
Originally Posted by blazntn View Post
Thanks Nathan, I will have him contact you a little later on in the build. We are still in the early stages of planning it right now. What is the bolt pattern on the vette? How is a good way to make them match the front?
Bolt pattern is GM car which is 5 on 4 3/4". The best way to make the front match is use the Corvette based dropmember...
__________________
Follow me on Facebook and Instagram @N2trux.com

Articles-

"Jake" the 84 to 74 crewcab

"Elwood" the77_Remix

85 GMC Sierra "Scarlett"

"Refining Sierra"
N2TRUX is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-07-2007, 09:51 AM   #21
revn67
Registered User
 
revn67's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: east longmeadow, MA
Posts: 540
Re: Independent Rear?

cajundragger i believe sporttruck is working on a c-10 with an expedition rear.....i'm not sure but i know it is definitely either sporttruck or streettruck magazines.
__________________
67 small windowed,shortbed,fleetside, sbc 327, th350,12 bolt :under the knife:
71 cab for sale in parts classifieds!
2004 black chevy 1500

"finish your beer, theres sober kids in india!"
revn67 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-07-2007, 10:16 AM   #22
1lowdiesel
Senior Member
 
1lowdiesel's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: central jersey
Posts: 763
Re: Independent Rear?

here's the rx7 rear my buddy is using.

__________________
69 4wd V6 20k orig miles!!
05 ccsb 2wd Diesel 500hp bagged and soon to be stock floored.
01 rcsb chevy 2wd 6bt cummins :devil:> build

xtremediesel.com

Last edited by 1lowdiesel; 06-07-2007 at 10:17 AM.
1lowdiesel is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-07-2007, 01:00 PM   #23
blazntn
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: TN
Posts: 204
Re: Independent Rear?

well i already have the non vette dropmember, so that is out of the question. What other way can you change the front.

And Sport Truck is building the C-10 with the Expedition rear.
blazntn is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-07-2007, 01:04 PM   #24
1LoC10
Insert Title Here
 
1LoC10's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Dyer, Indiana
Posts: 5,679
Re: Independent Rear?

Heres the build thread for the Expedition one
http://www.streetsourcemag.com/forum...&M=True&S=True
__________________
BOBBY
_69 SWB_

1000 pics of 67-72's>> http://s193.photobucket.com/albums/z...-72/?start=all <<
1LoC10 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-07-2007, 01:16 PM   #25
HOOPTY67
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: california
Posts: 155
Re: Independent Rear?

My '67 has a 2003 Ford Expedition IRS. I was worried about the amount of travel i could get out of the Corvette rear with the u-joints and I wanted a rear what wouldn't blow up with a good motor in front of it like the Supra will. Porter seems to have solved the travel issue with the C-4 IRS but i still haven't seen a stock Supra rear installed in anything other than a mini truck so i went with the Expedition unit.

the good: its an 8.8-inch rear that will handle a good amount of horsepower, the CV's provide good articulation which equals good suspension travel in a bagged application. I've limited mine to 13-inches of travel without it binding up. It will cycle more than that but it starts to bind at 14-inches.

the bad: the rear has a 70-inch track width. I had to narrow mine 5-inches per side to fit the 22x10's with a 6.5-inch backspacing inside the stock bed sides. There's enough room for a wheel with 6-inches of backspacing. I had new axles made out of 600M material using the stock CV joints for about 600 bucks. According to the builder, the axles are good for over 1000hp, not that i'll ever put that much to it.

On the road the truck handles excellent and I can drive at any height without the rear suspension binding up.

I paid 800 bucks for the IRS, hub to hub including the control arms, 13-inch disc brakes, cables, struts etc from a scrap yard. I only ended up using the center section, CV's, brakes and hubs and threw away the stock contorl arms.

hope this helps.

-mike
sporttruck.com
__________________
-mike
HOOPTY67 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 10:50 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Copyright 1997-2022 67-72chevytrucks.com