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Old 11-18-2007, 06:47 AM   #1
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points eliminator...does it help?

I was looking at a kit in summit racing the is supposed to eliminate the points in a points distributer and i was wandering if anyone has done this upgrade and if there is a good reason to do it.
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Old 11-18-2007, 07:34 AM   #2
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Re: points eliminator...does it help?

Doing away with the old ignition points is a very worthwhile endeavor. You never have to worry about cleaning or setting the gap ever again. Your truck will respond with a smoother idle and easier starting too.

If you're not totaly concerned about original appearance though, I'd swap to an HEI distributor instead of an aftermarket kit like you're talking about.

The HEI will likely be cheaper, it's all GM parts (read very reliable), and parts are available at any parts store if you even need a module or something.
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Old 11-18-2007, 08:01 AM   #3
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Re: points eliminator...does it help?

I know of a few people that have used them and they were pleased with the results. If you do use it i would suggest the Pettronics one used another brand and never got it to work . they were in fords . with G.M use the H.E.I. unless you just want the stock look .
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Old 11-18-2007, 10:39 PM   #4
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Re: points eliminator...does it help?

I got a pertronix kit that fit under the original cap and rotor for my old Ford 289 in my 68 Fairlane 500 and it was great! loved it and highly recommend it! only cost $70 too
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Old 11-18-2007, 11:31 PM   #5
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Re: points eliminator...does it help?

I've got the Pertronix Ignitor on my 292. Its a great set-up!
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Old 11-19-2007, 10:15 AM   #6
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Re: points eliminator...does it help?

I bought a Pertronox for my truck and I didn't notice any difference in performance,idle,or mileage.I did notice that the one time I left the key in the "on" position while I was doing a job it never worked right after that and I had to chunk it.$90 wasted. I've heard the new ones won't do that though.I'm sticking with points and am happy with them.
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Old 11-20-2007, 06:22 PM   #7
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I'm sticking with points and am happy with them.
That's a statement you won't see too often on this or any other automotive forum. The "lost art" of tuning a points distributor is not dead.
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Old 11-20-2007, 08:36 PM   #8
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Re: points eliminator...does it help?

I too have been setting and replacing points all my life, but I have yet to replace a points ignition with an HEI that didn't make a huge difference in performance. The HEI is simple a better iginition system. I can't say either way on the Pertronix because I have never used them, but a GM HEI skull drags a points setup!
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Old 11-20-2007, 08:45 PM   #9
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Re: points eliminator...does it help?

I have changed/set points as far back as the mid-Sixties, and put HEI in my truck simply because the points are a PITA to get to! I have had a lot of vehicles with electronic ignition, and never had one fail. In fact, I did have one ignition failure in my truck many years ago, before the HEI -- a coil expired.

I changed from points to an LED/chopper wheel ignition years ago in an older Dodge van. Can't recall the brand, but it worked perfectly.

Wouldn't bother me if I never saw another set of points again...
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Old 11-19-2007, 10:24 AM   #10
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Re: points eliminator...does it help?

I have the Pertronix Ignitor in my '72; no problems after 2 years of daily driving.

I wouldn't expect a performance improvement - probably the opposite above 5500 - but this is where a stock HEI starts to crap out a bit as well.

The installation was pretty straightforward, and I like not having to mess with points
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Old 11-19-2007, 11:01 AM   #11
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Re: points eliminator...does it help?

The dwell stays put with the elec igns and you don't have resistance like with points. The HEI has higher voltage/spark and uses larger (better) 8mm wires.
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Old 11-19-2007, 12:01 PM   #12
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Re: points eliminator...does it help?

My points have left me stranded to many times to go back. I was checking out a street rod mag when I noticed a custom hei cap that exits each wire post in the same relation to cylinder number. Makes for a very clean orginized look. It is called the Crossfire by Queen's Automotive Inc. Just a thought on the dizzy.
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Old 11-19-2007, 12:59 PM   #13
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I have never understood this ?
I have drove chevy's with point's for 25 year's and have NEVER had a problem , the electronic setup's will just DIE in the middle of the road
on my 67 camaro I have put 90K miles on it over the past ten year's and have replaced the point's twice , I think it's that people do not understand point's in that they have to be set correctly to work and growing up with them I learned early how to do it , if the dwell is set with a dwell meter and the distributor has no shaft slack point's are all but BULLET PROOF !!!
you could not pay me to remove my point's ....
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Old 11-19-2007, 09:04 PM   #14
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Re: points eliminator...does it help?


Same here. If you want a bunch of hi-tech gagetry to troubleshoot,get a newer model.
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Old 11-20-2007, 09:12 AM   #15
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I have never understood this ?
I have drove chevy's with point's for 25 year's and have NEVER had a problem , the electronic setup's will just DIE in the middle of the road
on my 67 camaro I have put 90K miles on it over the past ten year's and have replaced the point's twice , I think it's that people do not understand point's in that they have to be set correctly to work and growing up with them I learned early how to do it , if the dwell is set with a dwell meter and the distributor has no shaft slack point's are all but BULLET PROOF !!!
you could not pay me to remove my point's ....
I agree. I never had any problems with the points in the Blazer. I always used AC Delco parts, serviced the cam lubricator, and set the dwell at 30 degrees. It always started quickly and I only replaced them once in 40k miles.

The truck came with a brand new MSD dizzy, which seems to work well, so I will leave it.
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Re: points eliminator...does it help?

I have points in my truck and have had no problems in 2 years after tuning it up. Would a hotter coil help the stock ingition?
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Old 11-20-2007, 02:21 PM   #17
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My points have left me stranded to many times to go back. I was checking out a street rod mag when I noticed a custom hei cap that exits each wire post in the same relation to cylinder number. Makes for a very clean orginized look. It is called the Crossfire by Queen's Automotive Inc. Just a thought on the dizzy.
Do you have a link? I can't seem to find them by googling.
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Old 11-20-2007, 02:37 PM   #18
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Re: points eliminator...does it help?

Another thumbs up for "Pertronix" ignitor and their "Flame Thrower Coil." I put this in my 50' because hard starting and performance issues. I wanted a traditional look and I lacked the room needed to fit an HEI dist. The swap is very reasonable $$$ and the performance was unreal. Coil comes in chrome or black. Pertronix products are very dependable and this company is very helpfull tech wise.

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Do you have a link? I can't seem to find them by googling.
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Old 11-20-2007, 09:06 AM   #20
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Re: points eliminator...does it help?

I have a Pertronix unit in my BB and it was day and night over the stock points, runs like a different truck. I recently bought the crane cams unit from summit for 64 bucks and change because of the rev limiter it has built in for my 4x4, but have not tried it yet, if like pertronix it should be good to go. I agree that the HEI is very nice, in fact I traded my brother the one that was in the 4x4 for his stock distributer and coil setup only because I want the truck to retain its original appearance, which to me is the only reason to ever switch away from an HEI.

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