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Old 05-20-2008, 01:28 AM   #1
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3/5 drop not level

just installed my ccp drop kit Coil drop 3inch fron 5 inch rear, when i finished the front only lowered 1.5 inches, well the back is lower then the front oh 65 model swb with a 6 cyclinder, Should I cut the front spring s/ half a coil?

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Old 05-20-2008, 02:56 AM   #2
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Re: 3/5 drop not level

Before you start cutting look at a few things. Are you certain that you got the fronts springs seated correctly? If the bottom is not clocked in the a-arm it can cause them to sit high.
Also you need to allow the springs to settle. it might take a little driving for everything to find home, but it shouldn't require cutting to get there.
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Old 05-20-2008, 03:56 AM   #3
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Re: 3/5 drop not level

allow the springs to settle a little while befor you cut brand new springs.
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Old 05-20-2008, 04:51 AM   #4
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Re: 3/5 drop not level

If the above doesn't work, I would contact CPP at let them know your problem. Don't cut those new coils. If they are a 3 inch drop coil, you should a 3 inch drop.
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Old 05-20-2008, 05:37 AM   #5
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Re: 3/5 drop not level

You have to remember that these springs are 3" lower than NEW "stock height" springs. NOT your 30-40 year old original springs. Just measuring your truck and expecting the new drop springs to be 3" lower is unrealistic. That's why the stance photos on ECE's website help people decide how low they want their trucks. Most likely,... your orginal springs were sagging 1.5" already. (due to age). Throw some 2.5" drop spindles on it, and it will be perfect.
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You have to remember that these springs are 3" lower than NEW "stock height" springs. NOT your 30-40 year old original springs. Just measuring your truck and expecting the new drop springs to be 3" lower is unrealistic. That's why the stance photos on ECE's website help people decide how low they want their trucks. Most likely,... your orginal springs were sagging 1.5" already. (due to age). Throw some 2.5" drop spindles on it, and it will be perfect.
Good point about measuring he says that the rear is lower than the front. A 3/5 should be level or at least close. How much lower IS the rear??
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Old 05-20-2008, 05:57 AM   #7
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Re: 3/5 drop not level

if gas wasn't so expensive I would say through a big block in it, It could lower it around a inch
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Old 05-21-2008, 04:30 AM   #8
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Re: 3/5 drop not level

can I send ya'll some pics? let me know after the pics what ya think, like the big block idea ;-)
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Old 05-21-2008, 03:21 PM   #9
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Re: 3/5 drop not level

Post them up on the board... that way more people can see them. If you are unsure about how to post pics, check out the FAQ part of the board.

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Old 05-22-2008, 04:10 AM   #10
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Re: 3/5 drop not level

Did you drive it yet?. Usually the springs will seat (bang) when you hit your first bump and then your good. Another way to seat them is rock the front of the truck up and down while it's parked and you should hear them pop. I drove mine thru a parking lot with speed bumps to make sure they were seated!
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Re: 3/5 drop not level

yes I have driven it, I'll try some of these ideas, Gota learn to do the pics post...

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Old 05-23-2008, 11:47 PM   #12
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Re: 3/5 drop not level

Email me your pics Todd and I'll post them for you.
Edit: I've seen it and it's quite a bit lower in the rear.
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Old 05-24-2008, 05:32 PM   #13
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Do you have any pics?
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Old 05-24-2008, 05:50 PM   #14
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Re: 3/5 drop not level

The 6 cylinder probably has an effect on the ride height also.
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Old 05-24-2008, 06:24 PM   #15
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Re: 3/5 drop not level

I agree with N2Trux. If it is not seated properly they will make it sit up an inch. I had this happen to me.
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Old 05-26-2008, 11:38 PM   #16
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Re: 3/5 drop not level

I am using springs out of a 6 cylinder in my 8 cylinder truck and they give me close to 2" drop so i would bet that the lowering springs you got are for an 8 cylinder hence not dropping enough.
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just installed my ccp drop kit Coil drop 3inch fron 5 inch rear, when i finished the front only lowered 1.5 inches, well the back is lower then the front oh 65 model swb with a 6 cyclinder, Should I cut the front spring s/ half a coil?

Thx,
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All the lowering springs I have seen for these pickups are rated for a SBC. If used on a pickup with a BBC in it, the weight will lower it an addition 1.5". I assume the lesser weight of your I6 is what is reducing your drop by 1.5". I would suggest a set of 2" drop spindles...
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Re: 3/5 drop not level

Just an FYI If you looked to replace your springs with replacements it is the same part number 3/4 ton to 1/2 ton. Anyways... I have the same issue with my ride and now want to cut my front drop coils to get another 1" or 2" lower. Planning on doing it this weekend. I know that the drop spindles are better, but being a 3/4 ton dropped I can't find what I'm looking for. Either way I will post some pics.
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Just an FYI If you looked to replace your springs with replacements it is the same part number 3/4 ton to 1/2 ton. Anyways... I have the same issue with my ride and now want to cut my front drop coils to get another 1" or 2" lower. Planning on doing it this weekend. I know that the drop spindles are better, but being a 3/4 ton dropped I can't find what I'm looking for. Either way I will post some pics.
Charlesdur the 71-87 3/4 ton spindles are the same so you can use 73-87 3/4ton drop spindles to lower your 71-72 3/4 ton.
For those that do not want off the shelf drop springs like the other vendors sell that are all based on SWB small block V-8s are drop springs are custom made to the truck they will be installed in, we provide our manufacturer with the following info
Year, motor size, transmission in truck, length of wheelbase, bed style, and if trucks A/C or Non-A/C they then determine the weight of truck based on this info and then wind & temper the springs based on these specs. That way the guy with a 6 cyl. SWB fleetside Non-A/C manual transmission isn't getting the same spring rate as the guy with a big block, automatic transmission, LWB stepside, with A/C as there is a substational difference in weight. So everyones ride is optimized instead of everyone getting the same spring rate. It does take 7-10 days from time of order to receive them as they are made at right after you order but its worth it in our opinion.
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So I cut one coil off of my 2" drop springs and it lowered it two inches... the problem then was that it was bottoming out the arm bumper "don't know the real name" took the angle grinder to it and removed the steel tower.. it rides pretty smooth and handles well still.
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That metal part on the A arm was a combo bump stop and steering stop. You might want to be careful not having any bump stops. I learned on my last '68, which did not have these stops, that I went through a dip a little fast and distroyed my new upper ball joint. With any proper stops, nothing keeps the ball joints from rotating too far.

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That metal part on the A arm was a combo bump stop and steering stop. You might want to be careful not having any bump stops. I learned on my last '68, which did not have these stops, that I went through a dip a little fast and distroyed my new upper ball joint. With any proper stops, nothing keeps the ball joints from rotating too far.

Just an FYI that I learned the hard way.

this is great info and I agree... I actually only removed the top part of it that was higher then the area that holds the actual bumper stop. so I still have the part in and the bumper mounted.
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