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messed up c-10 · 11-11-2002, 05:54 PM

http://www.crateengine.net/350383c.html
This costs about the same as the one I want to build would cost plus its balanced and I dont have to build it and that gives me a better chance of getting it. Just thought I'd see your thoughts on it.

Tom · 11-11-2002, 06:23 PM

$3800 isent too bad crate engine speaking. Cams are a un known factor, and the 430hp and 450lbs/ft are with a victor Jr intake, so I would guess more like 410-415hp. Also, to make that much power with a 9:1 vortec headed 383 you'd need a BIG cam, much bigger then what stock vortec heads can handle. See if you can get us some more info.

PHOENIX · 11-11-2002, 06:55 PM

Hey Tom just a thought but maybe in your signature you should add:

Resident Honda Man / Vortec Head Master

85 K5 · 11-11-2002, 08:00 PM

I am definitely not the one to ask about engines, however in an attempt to help wanted to make you aware of this:

http://www.goautocenter.com/383_small_blk.htm

New as opposed to reconditioned.

They have others..........

messed up c-10 · 11-11-2002, 11:42 PM

I sent the company an e-mail with some questions about the engine. Hopefully they will get back to me by tommorow.

littlebubba · 11-12-2002, 12:22 AM

The price on that shortblock is not a big bargain. Look around at some of the bigger engine advertisers, you can get a long block for about the same money. Whats wrong with a GM crate motor, they give a warranty and they are brand new? There are a ton of engine builders out there all looking to make a living, ask lots of questions about what your getting and what they are using parts wise, any tech support, or garuntees and have them put it in writing-- thats the real test!

messed up c-10 · 11-12-2002, 05:05 PM

I sent them an e-mail asking what size cam the engine uses and all they said was "we design the cams for the strokers,with the right combo they will make over 500HP." This doesnt help much. I am considering a GM Performance engine just need to look into all the possibilities

BigRed · 11-12-2002, 05:16 PM

Check this one out!!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tem=1871944130

I have heard from multiple people, one on CT that have had good experiences with these people. Plus, they offer a good warranty. This is a higher priced one, but they have several on eBay. Read some of the feedbacks, they are all good.

Here's all their auctions.

http://cgi6.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/e...gines%40cs.com

littlebubba · 11-13-2002, 02:04 AM

After reading over all the details on that motor, and all the goodies etc. thrown in, if that motor can be bought for $3360, you'd have a hard time putting it together for that. Might be a good deal to check out! Thanks for the info "RED"

Tom · 11-13-2002, 12:32 PM

That motor on ebay is a good deal. Deff. not a very good street motor though with 215cc intakes, 2.05 intake valve and that big cam. Unless of course you have a manual or 2500-3000rpm stall convertor, then it could work. If any of you guys are considering using that place its in phoenix so I could go check out the quality of the work before you buy. Personlly, if I had to get a 383 crate Id go with GM's version.

11-11-2002, 05:54 PM	#1
messed up c-10 RHCP afficianado Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: McLoud, OK Posts: 789	What do you guys think of this? http://www.crateengine.net/350383c.html This costs about the same as the one I want to build would cost plus its balanced and I dont have to build it and that gives me a better chance of getting it. Just thought I'd see your thoughts on it. __________________ ~Ryan~ 89 S-10 Blazer with a 4.3L 96 Ford Crown Vic P71 4.6L V8. This car rocks. Here are some links to some good music. Jack Johnson Donavon Frankenreiter Last edited by messed up c-10; 11-11-2002 at 06:15 PM.

11-11-2002, 06:23 PM	#2
Tom driving is in my blood Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Mesa AZ Posts: 5,720	$3800 isent too bad crate engine speaking. Cams are a un known factor, and the 430hp and 450lbs/ft are with a victor Jr intake, so I would guess more like 410-415hp. Also, to make that much power with a 9:1 vortec headed 383 you'd need a BIG cam, much bigger then what stock vortec heads can handle. See if you can get us some more info. __________________ -78 c10 short/step: 388cid, M20, 5/5 drop, lots more. Playtoy and first vehicle. -98 c1500 x-cab: 5.7L, 17" rims, 5/6 drop, flowmaster, helper bags,NBS rear disk brakes. -02 Suburban 4x4: leveled front -CBR600F4i, CBR600RR, CBR1000RR, and standup skis DISCLAIMER: I cant spell for the life of me.

11-11-2002, 06:55 PM	#3
PHOENIX Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Phoenix, Arizona Posts: 4,703	Hey Tom just a thought but maybe in your signature you should add: Resident Honda Man / Vortec Head Master __________________ * AVOID: LOPER'S PERMORANCE / LOPERSPEED.COM OF PHOENIX, AZ & COTTMAN TRANSMISSION *

11-11-2002, 08:00 PM	#4
85 K5 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Spring TX Posts: 113	I am definitely not the one to ask about engines, however in an attempt to help wanted to make you aware of this: http://www.goautocenter.com/383_small_blk.htm New as opposed to reconditioned. They have others.......... __________________ 350 Crate 10 bolt 3.73 2.5 lift 32x11.50 1904 Edelbrock http://www.oplnk.net/~spirit/K5front.jpg

11-11-2002, 11:42 PM	#5
messed up c-10 RHCP afficianado Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: McLoud, OK Posts: 789	I sent the company an e-mail with some questions about the engine. Hopefully they will get back to me by tommorow. __________________ ~Ryan~ 89 S-10 Blazer with a 4.3L 96 Ford Crown Vic P71 4.6L V8. This car rocks. Here are some links to some good music. Jack Johnson Donavon Frankenreiter

11-12-2002, 12:22 AM	#6
littlebubba Registered User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Clinton Twp., Michigan Posts: 323	Engine advice The price on that shortblock is not a big bargain. Look around at some of the bigger engine advertisers, you can get a long block for about the same money. Whats wrong with a GM crate motor, they give a warranty and they are brand new? There are a ton of engine builders out there all looking to make a living, ask lots of questions about what your getting and what they are using parts wise, any tech support, or garuntees and have them put it in writing-- thats the real test!

11-12-2002, 05:05 PM	#7
messed up c-10 RHCP afficianado Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: McLoud, OK Posts: 789	I sent them an e-mail asking what size cam the engine uses and all they said was "we design the cams for the strokers,with the right combo they will make over 500HP." This doesnt help much. I am considering a GM Performance engine just need to look into all the possibilities __________________ ~Ryan~ 89 S-10 Blazer with a 4.3L 96 Ford Crown Vic P71 4.6L V8. This car rocks. Here are some links to some good music. Jack Johnson Donavon Frankenreiter

11-12-2002, 05:16 PM	#8
BigRed Registered User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: DFW, TX Posts: 1,680	Check this one out!! http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tem=1871944130 I have heard from multiple people, one on CT that have had good experiences with these people. Plus, they offer a good warranty. This is a higher priced one, but they have several on eBay. Read some of the feedbacks, they are all good. Here's all their auctions. http://cgi6.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/e...gines%40cs.com __________________ Scott Shelbourne

11-13-2002, 02:04 AM	#9
littlebubba Registered User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Clinton Twp., Michigan Posts: 323	EBAY 383/465 HP After reading over all the details on that motor, and all the goodies etc. thrown in, if that motor can be bought for $3360, you'd have a hard time putting it together for that. Might be a good deal to check out! Thanks for the info "RED"

11-13-2002, 12:32 PM	#10
Tom driving is in my blood Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Mesa AZ Posts: 5,720	That motor on ebay is a good deal. Deff. not a very good street motor though with 215cc intakes, 2.05 intake valve and that big cam. Unless of course you have a manual or 2500-3000rpm stall convertor, then it could work. If any of you guys are considering using that place its in phoenix so I could go check out the quality of the work before you buy. Personlly, if I had to get a 383 crate Id go with GM's version. __________________ -78 c10 short/step: 388cid, M20, 5/5 drop, lots more. Playtoy and first vehicle. -98 c1500 x-cab: 5.7L, 17" rims, 5/6 drop, flowmaster, helper bags,NBS rear disk brakes. -02 Suburban 4x4: leveled front -CBR600F4i, CBR600RR, CBR1000RR, and standup skis DISCLAIMER: I cant spell for the life of me.

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