Where is the neutral saftey switch on a SM 465? - The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network

oldsmobilekindofguy · 07-27-2008, 04:10 PM

Does anyone know wherer the neutral saftey switch is on a SM465? I am in the middle of wiring it up and I couldn't find it.Please help.

Thanks in advance.

milled · 07-27-2008, 04:19 PM

My sm420 has one in a 70 chev it should be around the clutch petal.

Wrenchbender Ret · 07-27-2008, 05:07 PM

They didn,t use one tlll a few years later. Then it was on the top of the clutch pedal. The backup light switch was on the side of the trans. tower. It was not on the real early models.

Longhorn Man · 07-27-2008, 05:53 PM

I don't think they did that till the mid 70's

prg machine · 07-27-2008, 05:59 PM

What the heck ...................................just put the clutch down and turn the key. If ya need that dang safety switch ya shouldn't be drivin.........

I'll never forget a bud of mine droe over 100 miles to retrieve his wife who couldn't get the car to start......................

it was an auto................................................................................................ .......................

she didn't have it in park!!!!

I guess the conversation was short to none for several days after that one!!!!!

prg machine · 07-27-2008, 06:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oldsmobilekindofguy

Does anyone know wherer the neutral saftey switch is on a SM465? I am in the middle of wiring it up and I couldn't find it.Please help.

Thanks in advance.

Take no offense to my previous comment.....................I am sure you have a good reason to find the switch..................I couldn;t resist being the wise guy.

Longhorn Man · 07-27-2008, 06:17 PM

I personally find a lot of these 'safety items' to just make the general public that much stupider.
Wehen your grandfather was learning to drive, he was taught to always... ALWAYS depress the clutch pedal to the floor before hitting the ignition switch.
Is that so hard?
Now there's a generation of people that if it wasnt for the switch, they would do lots of damage.
Like my response to my boss when he saw my throwing my NSS away after doing a van tilt conversion. He asked me, "what if you start it in gear?"
I simply tell him I'd get what I deserve, for shutting it off in gear, and leaving it that way."

oldsmobilekindofguy · 07-27-2008, 07:51 PM

I grew up learning how to drive a stick that is not the problem, it is just one of the steps in my Ron Francis wiring kit and i figure if it was there Iwould put it in just incase I sell it or something

**special-K** · 07-27-2008, 09:59 PM

Don`t worry.There is none on these trucks.

Longhorn Man · 07-27-2008, 10:27 PM

olds guy, I didn't aim that at you....but rather to society in general. It all falls under the "it's not my fault" mentality.

oldsmobilekindofguy · 07-28-2008, 10:31 PM

This is it

oldsmobilekindofguy · 07-28-2008, 10:28 PM

i know what you meant, but actually there is a neutral safety swich on these transmissions because I found one for sale and then found it on my transmission

Longhorn Man · 07-29-2008, 06:14 AM

pretty sure that's the back up light switch

Blazer1970 · 07-29-2008, 06:37 AM

The 465s from this era have a backup light switch, and a lot of them have a high gear indicator switch for the TCS system. Definitely no neutral safety, and I don't think a switch was ever used on the tranny for this - it worked off the clutch pedal as noted above (but this was not used in the '67 - '72 era).

**special-K** · 07-29-2008, 07:15 AM

The first truck I noticed it in was an`80.I think my`78 had one.Those trucks had the later SM435.But,as mentioned,it`s a switch activated off the pedal arm.I disconnected mine,just like I do headlight and seatbelt buzzers.I feel I know what I`m doing when in the driver`s seat.Silly,huh?

68gmsee · 07-29-2008, 09:39 AM

Re: safety switches and other assorted safety features on our vehicles and all of our lives. Some are good others are overkill. We have become accustomed to being protected to the point where nothing is our fault and lawyers love to jump on anything they can pin on someone else.

Lets say you disconnect or leave the safety switch out of your vehicle and happen to sell your truck. And lets say they start it in "drive" and cause major damage to someone else or themselves. A lawyer will jump on this like fleas on a farm dog.

All I'm saying is be careful and don't assume that everyone out there is knowledgeable.

Longhorn Man · 07-29-2008, 04:08 PM

You are absolutly right, and that is a point I am normally the one pointing out.

oldsmobilekindofguy · 07-29-2008, 04:08 PM

it is called a neutral saftey switch on the website, does someone have a picture of the backup light switch so I can see the diference, the one on the side of my transmission is busted off on the front What is left of it looks like the pictre ahown above, you guys are maybe right but I need to figure this out

07-27-2008, 04:10 PM	#1
oldsmobilekindofguy Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Stratford,SD Posts: 296	Where is the neutral saftey switch on a SM 465? Does anyone know wherer the neutral saftey switch is on a SM465? I am in the middle of wiring it up and I couldn't find it.Please help. Thanks in advance. __________________ 1967 c-10 longbox project, check it out in projects 1969 c-10 parts pickup, twisted frame Daily driver- 1970 Olds delta 88, 2dr., 455, gotta love the big block

07-27-2008, 04:19 PM	#2
milled Registered User Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: arvada colorado Posts: 105	Re: Where is the neutral saftey switch on a SM 465? My sm420 has one in a 70 chev it should be around the clutch petal. __________________ 1970 k20 350 4speed hd44 14b Circumventing the language filter is against site rules Last edited by milled; 07-27-2008 at 04:20 PM.

07-27-2008, 05:07 PM	#3
Wrenchbender Ret Registered User Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Overland Park, Ks. Posts: 5,229	Re: Where is the neutral saftey switch on a SM 465? They didn,t use one tlll a few years later. Then it was on the top of the clutch pedal. The backup light switch was on the side of the trans. tower. It was not on the real early models.

07-27-2008, 05:53 PM	#4
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,690	Re: Where is the neutral saftey switch on a SM 465? I don't think they did that till the mid 70's

07-27-2008, 05:59 PM	#5
prg machine Registered User Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: oregon Posts: 1,069	Re: Where is the neutral saftey switch on a SM 465? What the heck ...................................just put the clutch down and turn the key. If ya need that dang safety switch ya shouldn't be drivin......... I'll never forget a bud of mine droe over 100 miles to retrieve his wife who couldn't get the car to start...................... it was an auto................................................................................................ ....................... she didn't have it in park!!!! I guess the conversation was short to none for several days after that one!!!!! __________________ 69 K-20 cloned to a 67 with front clip and some other stuff. 383 .040 over Crane roller cam lifters and rockers ,1.6 intake ratio, Open chamber heads, 9.5-1 compression ratio, 2.02 intake valves , Edelbrock performer Air Gap manifold Carter AFB performer 750cfm, MSD ignition, SM465 NP205 4.10 gears:

07-27-2008, 06:17 PM	#7
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,690	Re: Where is the neutral saftey switch on a SM 465? I personally find a lot of these 'safety items' to just make the general public that much stupider. Wehen your grandfather was learning to drive, he was taught to always... ALWAYS depress the clutch pedal to the floor before hitting the ignition switch. Is that so hard? Now there's a generation of people that if it wasnt for the switch, they would do lots of damage. Like my response to my boss when he saw my throwing my NSS away after doing a van tilt conversion. He asked me, "what if you start it in gear?" I simply tell him I'd get what I deserve, for shutting it off in gear, and leaving it that way."

07-27-2008, 07:51 PM	#8
oldsmobilekindofguy Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Stratford,SD Posts: 296	Re: Where is the neutral saftey switch on a SM 465? I grew up learning how to drive a stick that is not the problem, it is just one of the steps in my Ron Francis wiring kit and i figure if it was there Iwould put it in just incase I sell it or something __________________ 1967 c-10 longbox project, check it out in projects 1969 c-10 parts pickup, twisted frame Daily driver- 1970 Olds delta 88, 2dr., 455, gotta love the big block

07-27-2008, 09:59 PM	#9
special-K Special Order Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Mt Airy, MD Posts: 85,851	Re: Where is the neutral saftey switch on a SM 465? Don`t worry.There is none on these trucks. __________________ "BUILDING A BETTER WAY TO SERVE THE USA"......67/72......"The New Breed" GMC '67 C1500 Wideside Super Custom SWB: 327/M22/3.42 posi.........."The '67" (project) GMC '72 K2500 Wideside Sierra Custom Camper: 350/TH350/4.10 Power-Lok..."The '72" (rolling) Tim "Don't call me a redneck. I'm a rough cut country gentleman" R.I.P. ~ East Side Low Life ~ El Jay ~ 72BLUZ ~ Fasteddie69 ~ Ron586 ~ 67ChevyRedneck ~ Grumpy Old Man ~

07-27-2008, 10:27 PM	#10
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,690	Re: Where is the neutral saftey switch on a SM 465? olds guy, I didn't aim that at you....but rather to society in general. It all falls under the "it's not my fault" mentality.

07-28-2008, 10:31 PM	#11
oldsmobilekindofguy Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Stratford,SD Posts: 296	Re: Where is the neutral saftey switch on a SM 465? This is it Attached Images __________________ 1967 c-10 longbox project, check it out in projects 1969 c-10 parts pickup, twisted frame Daily driver- 1970 Olds delta 88, 2dr., 455, gotta love the big block

07-28-2008, 10:28 PM	#12
oldsmobilekindofguy Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Stratford,SD Posts: 296	Re: Where is the neutral saftey switch on a SM 465? i know what you meant, but actually there is a neutral safety swich on these transmissions because I found one for sale and then found it on my transmission __________________ 1967 c-10 longbox project, check it out in projects 1969 c-10 parts pickup, twisted frame Daily driver- 1970 Olds delta 88, 2dr., 455, gotta love the big block

07-29-2008, 06:14 AM	#13
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,690	Re: Where is the neutral saftey switch on a SM 465? pretty sure that's the back up light switch

07-29-2008, 06:37 AM	#14
Blazer1970 Registered User Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Old Mission, MI, USA Posts: 2,507	Re: Where is the neutral saftey switch on a SM 465? The 465s from this era have a backup light switch, and a lot of them have a high gear indicator switch for the TCS system. Definitely no neutral safety, and I don't think a switch was ever used on the tranny for this - it worked off the clutch pedal as noted above (but this was not used in the '67 - '72 era). __________________ Tim

07-29-2008, 07:15 AM	#15
special-K Special Order Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Mt Airy, MD Posts: 85,851	Re: Where is the neutral saftey switch on a SM 465? The first truck I noticed it in was an`80.I think my`78 had one.Those trucks had the later SM435.But,as mentioned,it`s a switch activated off the pedal arm.I disconnected mine,just like I do headlight and seatbelt buzzers.I feel I know what I`m doing when in the driver`s seat.Silly,huh? __________________ "BUILDING A BETTER WAY TO SERVE THE USA"......67/72......"The New Breed" GMC '67 C1500 Wideside Super Custom SWB: 327/M22/3.42 posi.........."The '67" (project) GMC '72 K2500 Wideside Sierra Custom Camper: 350/TH350/4.10 Power-Lok..."The '72" (rolling) Tim "Don't call me a redneck. I'm a rough cut country gentleman" R.I.P. ~ East Side Low Life ~ El Jay ~ 72BLUZ ~ Fasteddie69 ~ Ron586 ~ 67ChevyRedneck ~ Grumpy Old Man ~

07-29-2008, 09:39 AM	#16
68gmsee Active Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Centrally located between Houston, Austin and Waco. BCS area. Posts: 7,947	Re: Where is the neutral saftey switch on a SM 465? Re: safety switches and other assorted safety features on our vehicles and all of our lives. Some are good others are overkill. We have become accustomed to being protected to the point where nothing is our fault and lawyers love to jump on anything they can pin on someone else. Lets say you disconnect or leave the safety switch out of your vehicle and happen to sell your truck. And lets say they start it in "drive" and cause major damage to someone else or themselves. A lawyer will jump on this like fleas on a farm dog. All I'm saying is be careful and don't assume that everyone out there is knowledgeable.



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07-29-2008, 04:08 PM	#17
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,690	Re: Where is the neutral saftey switch on a SM 465? You are absolutly right, and that is a point I am normally the one pointing out.

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