ladder bars and airover shocks - The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network

herodcreekfarms · 11-11-2008, 09:43 PM

hi guys i have a 56 chevy truck in which the po installed a ladder bar suspension with behind the axle coilovers. my question is can i just remove the coilovers and replace them with the airover shocks. if this is possible what do i need to measure for the length of the bags. if this cant be done, which i have been told by airride technologies i cant, whats the next best route 4 link with bags over axle?

Garagedude · 11-11-2008, 09:54 PM

Do you race the truck? Cause I don't know if you would really want to do that.

PBFAB.COM · 11-11-2008, 10:13 PM

Post up some pics of your set-up. It isn't ideal to use air suspension on a ladder bar system. The typical ladder bar set-up functions like a short two-link (not ideal for the travel made available by air suspension). With the added travel the air offers, things may want to start binding pretty quickly.

herodcreekfarms · 11-11-2008, 10:11 PM

no i dont race it.... does ya have a reason for why i would not wanna do it

herodcreekfarms · 11-11-2008, 10:19 PM

at the moment i dont have any pics, but if it doesnt work out, what are my other options reguarding 4 links. of course i want something safe but i am a college kid so the money is a lil tight. i mainly wanna know what type, as in brand and whom offers it, also the airbag setups aair over shock, bag over axles, or behind axle

herodcreekfarms · 11-12-2008, 01:05 PM

any input

*Shane* · 11-12-2008, 02:38 PM

you're gonna need to post some pics so folks can see what you are asking for before anyone can give you good advice

cdowns · 11-12-2008, 07:59 PM

what the heck are airover shocks?? is it a shock in the middle surrounded by an airbag?

**N2TRUX** · 11-12-2008, 10:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cdowns

what the heck are airover shocks?? is it a shock in the middle surrounded by an airbag?

Yes, that is correct. Here's one by the innovator Air Ride Technologies-

cdowns · 11-12-2008, 11:42 PM

cool,thanks for the info. i dont see why you cant get rid of the coilovers and use them as long as the clearances are ok// most coilover setups are tight on clearances and those look quite a bit fatter so measure real carefully

**N2TRUX** · 11-13-2008, 09:58 AM

I believe what the concern is the amount of travel that a bag over shock allows versus a coil over. Ladder bars are usually limited in the ability to articulate and travel. As you mentioned the concerns would be compounded by clearance issues.

grinch4om · 11-13-2008, 10:03 AM

ladder bar suspensions move on an arc due to the geometry...clearances is the only issue

SCOTI · 11-13-2008, 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by grinch4om

ladder bar suspensions move on an arc due to the geometry...clearances is the only issue

The 'arc' is affected more when using a more adjustable air suspension vs. an adjustable coil-over.

herodcreekfarms · 11-13-2008, 12:18 PM

ok guys thanks for the input and i will try to get some pics up soon.

11-11-2008, 09:43 PM	#1
herodcreekfarms Registered User Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: leesburg ga Posts: 88	ladder bars and airover shocks hi guys i have a 56 chevy truck in which the po installed a ladder bar suspension with behind the axle coilovers. my question is can i just remove the coilovers and replace them with the airover shocks. if this is possible what do i need to measure for the length of the bags. if this cant be done, which i have been told by airride technologies i cant, whats the next best route 4 link with bags over axle?

11-11-2008, 09:54 PM	#2
Garagedude Registered User Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Summerville SC Posts: 217	Re: ladder bars and airover shocks Do you race the truck? Cause I don't know if you would really want to do that.

11-11-2008, 10:13 PM	#3
PBFAB.COM Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Mesa,Az Posts: 3,981	Re: ladder bars and airover shocks Post up some pics of your set-up. It isn't ideal to use air suspension on a ladder bar system. The typical ladder bar set-up functions like a short two-link (not ideal for the travel made available by air suspension). With the added travel the air offers, things may want to start binding pretty quickly. __________________ www.PorterbuiltFabrication.com Phone: 480-297-2621 E-mail: sales@pbfab.com Find us on FaceBook under Porterbuilt Fabrication Specializing in Chassis and Suspension Components for your Classic Chevrolet Truck. We offer components from the following manufacturers: Porterbuilt Accuair Ridetech (Air Ride Technologies) Air Lift Wilwood Intro Unisteer ECE Gotta Show Air Lift Borgeson CPP Supporting this forum since 2003!

11-11-2008, 10:11 PM	#4
herodcreekfarms Registered User Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: leesburg ga Posts: 88	Re: ladder bars and airover shocks no i dont race it.... does ya have a reason for why i would not wanna do it

11-11-2008, 10:19 PM	#5
herodcreekfarms Registered User Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: leesburg ga Posts: 88	Re: ladder bars and airover shocks at the moment i dont have any pics, but if it doesnt work out, what are my other options reguarding 4 links. of course i want something safe but i am a college kid so the money is a lil tight. i mainly wanna know what type, as in brand and whom offers it, also the airbag setups aair over shock, bag over axles, or behind axle

11-12-2008, 01:05 PM	#6
herodcreekfarms Registered User Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: leesburg ga Posts: 88	Re: ladder bars and airover shocks any input

11-12-2008, 02:38 PM	#7
Shane Account Suspended Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: over yonder Posts: 14,270	Re: ladder bars and airover shocks you're gonna need to post some pics so folks can see what you are asking for before anyone can give you good advice

11-12-2008, 07:59 PM	#8
cdowns Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: daytonabeach Posts: 22,956	Re: ladder bars and airover shocks what the heck are airover shocks?? is it a shock in the middle surrounded by an airbag? __________________ 71c-10 350/2004r/4:11 lowered3/4 longbed/dead by hurricane MEANING OF DEATH::::: SOMEBODY ELSE GETS YOUR STUFF DONT BELIEVE EVERYTHING YOU THINK TAKE MY ADVISE;I DON'T USE IT ANYWAY

11-12-2008, 11:42 PM	#10
cdowns Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: daytonabeach Posts: 22,956	Re: ladder bars and airover shocks cool,thanks for the info. i dont see why you cant get rid of the coilovers and use them as long as the clearances are ok// most coilover setups are tight on clearances and those look quite a bit fatter so measure real carefully __________________ 71c-10 350/2004r/4:11 lowered3/4 longbed/dead by hurricane MEANING OF DEATH::::: SOMEBODY ELSE GETS YOUR STUFF DONT BELIEVE EVERYTHING YOU THINK TAKE MY ADVISE;I DON'T USE IT ANYWAY

11-13-2008, 09:58 AM	#11
N2TRUX Happy to be here Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: Cypress, TX Posts: 39,021	Re: ladder bars and airover shocks I believe what the concern is the amount of travel that a bag over shock allows versus a coil over. Ladder bars are usually limited in the ability to articulate and travel. As you mentioned the concerns would be compounded by clearance issues. __________________ Follow me on Facebook and Instagram @N2trux.com Articles- "Jake" the 84 to 74 crewcab "Elwood" the77_Remix 85 GMC Sierra "Scarlett" "Refining Sierra"

11-13-2008, 10:03 AM	#12
grinch4om dang its hot Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: frankfort kentucky Posts: 1,349	Re: ladder bars and airover shocks ladder bar suspensions move on an arc due to the geometry...clearances is the only issue

11-13-2008, 12:18 PM	#14
herodcreekfarms Registered User Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: leesburg ga Posts: 88	Re: ladder bars and airover shocks ok guys thanks for the input and i will try to get some pics up soon.

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