Need Help On Some History - The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network

tim21391 · 01-21-2009, 03:34 PM

i plan to go to mchperson college in mcpherson, ks..they have the best Auto restoration school in the country jay leno sponsers it... and i have to write a research paper over history of chevys and our trucks... they say to use three sources other then the internet..is there any good articles in classic trucks or something???? i could also use a person they said.... i have to get 750 for the paper.... can anybody lead me into the right path? i got two books from the public library over the trucks just need one more resource

**LEEVON** · 01-21-2009, 05:13 PM

Congrats on going to McPherson College. I was offered football scholarship there in 1998 but wasn't sure about the auto degree so I went elsewhere. You can use Google Books to find resources and do some reading. I believe you can only read so many pages, but I did a search on "chevy trucks" and got some good write-ups, here's one: http://books.google.com/books?id=aBu...trucks#PPA7,M1

Always site your sources and don't adopt their style, use your own. Good luck!

**Yukon Jack** · 01-21-2009, 05:20 PM

Sent you a pm.

PanelDeland · 01-21-2009, 08:09 PM

Check out the local B&N for some good titles on Chevrolet trucks.I have found quite a few there.You could also buy a few from www.motorbooks.com and take them off at tax time as research material.

XXL · 01-21-2009, 08:26 PM

If you want to write a paper to be taken seriously... the Internet is NOT a source. Use it to track down genuine primary sources, but don't reference Internet information. It's generally wrong.

texanidiot25 · 01-21-2009, 08:29 PM

Hit up The H.A.M.B. as well if you want some history lessons.
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=54322

**special-K** · 01-21-2009, 08:33 PM

Isn`t the H.A.M.B. the internet?

texanidiot25 · 01-21-2009, 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by special-K

Isn`t the H.A.M.B. the internet?

The H.A.M.B. is everything old school hot rods and such.

**LockDoc** · 01-21-2009, 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by texanidiot25

The H.A.M.B. is everything old school hot rods and such.

Well it used to be. It looks to me like it is going downhill fast....

LockDoc

hilandr452 · 01-21-2009, 09:46 PM

Kids these days, I tell YA! Get off yer buttinski and hit the library instead of going to the INTERNET like they told you not to and trying to get a bunch of old farts to do yer homework for ya!!

Can you tell I have a teen age son?

Good God I've turned into my Grandpa.

I feel old...

Dan

hilandr452 · 01-21-2009, 09:57 PM

I apologize for my last post. I sometimes say what I feel instead of being constructive. I'll try to be nicer in the future.

Dan

ChevLoRay · 01-22-2009, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by hilandr452

Kids these days, I tell YA! Get off yer buttinski and hit the library instead of going to the INTERNET like they told you not to and trying to get a bunch of old farts to do yer homework for ya!!

Can you tell I have a teen age son?

Good God I've turned into my Grandpa.

I feel old...

Dan

Hey, wait until you ARE the grandfather....at that point you'll make your comments and everyone around you will roll their eyes and say stuff that will make YOU roll YOUR eyes. There is justice. It comes from watching your kids raise their teenage kids....you're gonna enjoy that time, when it comes.

texanidiot25 · 01-21-2009, 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by LockDoc

Well it used to be. It looks to me like it is going downhill fast....

LockDoc

I only visit on occasion, not a long time member. But I assume it's probably going through the evil of it's own success. Either way, there's still some seriously badass builds to watch.

Quote:

Make it read like the Bible...

"In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth... and after he screwed with the Fords...he gave us Chevrolet!!!"

You won longhornman's spot.

**special-K** · 01-21-2009, 10:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by texanidiot25

The H.A.M.B. is everything old school hot rods and such.

No doubt,but it`s the internet,like this site is for all the GM truck info.He has to use two sources that "aren`t" the internet.

texanidiot25 · 01-21-2009, 10:58 PM

Seems kind of sporatic ATM. One thing I'd go on about is the beginning of trucks in GM, which I believe all started with the GMC Truck Co. that GM bought. Heart Beat of America was in the 80s.

One thing to mention is this was the first generation of GM trucks at least to really start gearing towards comfort, safety, luxury, and women drivers. I've seen some old 67-72 ads aimed at the woman of the house hold. Make mention of GM's IFS and coil spring rears that gave better ride and handling than the FURDs of the day.

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Originally Posted by special-K

No doubt,but it`s the internet,like this site is for all the GM truck info.He has to use two sources that "aren`t" the internet.

Oh right, thought you were playing tricks or something...

Carry on.

**special-K** · 01-22-2009, 06:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by texanidiot25

Oh right, thought you were playing tricks or something...

Carry on.

Yeah,sometimes it`s hard to tell when I`m kidding or not,I guess.

I don`t remember specific names and dates,but can dig it all up.GMC is what it became once GM was formed.But,GMC was the first truck in the line w/Chevy coming along in`25(or there about.See above memory comment

).I believe (see memory comment above

) there were a few truck co. mergers prior to GMC when it was Rapid something or other(see memory comment above

).I don`t eat & breath this stuf but keep any info I read or stumble on.If I can remember where I put it(see...

).

1968SWBBigBlock · 01-21-2009, 08:38 PM

Calling LONGHORN MAN -- your help is needed

**passthebuck** · 01-21-2009, 08:40 PM

There was an excellent article in Classic Trucks magazine a few years back that talked to the designer of our trucks. They interviewed him on our trucks down to the smallest minutae. That article would be gold.

**Already Gone** · 01-22-2009, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by passthebuck

There was an excellent article in Classic Trucks magazine a few years back that talked to the designer of our trucks. They interviewed him on our trucks down to the smallest minutae. That article would be gold.

I have every Classic Trucks Magazine since Sept 2001 and I can search them to see if I can find that article.

msgross · 01-21-2009, 08:43 PM

I found this thing in my third year of college that helped... the Library!

seriously, check out your local library for books or articles... what do you mean a 750?

tim21391 · 01-21-2009, 08:49 PM

oh sry i ment 750 words... my bad thanks guys im going to look into this.. i procrastinated for a year now but oh well... i got 2 weeks left

msgross · 01-21-2009, 08:55 PM

750 words? that's easy...

Make it read like the Bible...

"In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth... and after he screwed with the Fords...he gave us Chevrolet!!!"

maybe not a good idea for an entry paper, save that one for creative writing...

Good luck.. make sure you cite your references per the appropriate method that you've been given...

cdowns · 01-21-2009, 09:03 PM

try your local library

ChevLoRay · 01-21-2009, 09:11 PM

I don't mean to sound heartless, but it's gonna come out like that anyway.

You've had a year to put together a 750-word paper, and now you're down to 2 weeks? We've been here all that time and had the same advice you're getting now. There's all kinds of reference materials that have been written about these trucks. Like said earlier, a trip to Barnes and Noble bookstore, or Books-A-Million, or Hastings will have you spending time with the books and money to bring them home, if your library doesn't have a copy.

Yeah, I'm a dad with 5 grown kids, so you know I've had this same speech for them, just like my dad did for me when I procrastinated. It's the nature of being a kid in school. Heck, I didn't even go to class when I was in college. That little trick got me two trips, halfway around the world.....as I avoided the draft....yep, I'm a draft dodger....enlisted.

Edit: The designer for these GM trucks was Harry Bentley Bradley.

XXL · 01-22-2009, 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by tim21391

no i have not over committed myself... just actually out doing stuff versus sittin inside playing video games and eating junk and being a couch potato

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Originally Posted by tim21391

well i am sry to some of you people that i work two jobs go to school and find time to restore my 72!!....

Hmmm... you do seem to be on the Internet a lot, however. But to clarify my "overcommitted yourself" comment... if you're behind on your school assignment that was assigned so long ago, and you're scrambling for ideas on where to find the info you need, and you're telling everyone about your hectic life of working 2 jobs, etc., that may be a good working definition for "overcommitted."

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Originally Posted by tim21391

this has to be done by the 1st

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChevLoRay

You've had a year to put together a 750-word paper, and now you're down to 2 weeks?

Tick tick tick. 8 days left. I hope you're not waiting to act on all the very good leads people have given you in this thread.

01-21-2009, 03:34 PM	#1
tim21391 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Salina, Kansas Posts: 1,998	Need Help On Some History i plan to go to mchperson college in mcpherson, ks..they have the best Auto restoration school in the country jay leno sponsers it... and i have to write a research paper over history of chevys and our trucks... they say to use three sources other then the internet..is there any good articles in classic trucks or something???? i could also use a person they said.... i have to get 750 for the paper.... can anybody lead me into the right path? i got two books from the public library over the trucks just need one more resource __________________ 1972 C-10...402/400..flowmaster 40 series 1967 Mustang 347 stroker/C-4 1966 Mustang 289/3-speed 2013 Mustang V6/6speed w/300 ponies I may be 23, but i sure do knows 67-72s are sexy! Its not MPG its smiles per gallon! build started 11/25/08 build thread: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s....php?p=2993796

01-21-2009, 05:13 PM	#2
LEEVON Moderator Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Ozark, MO Posts: 4,888	Re: Need Help On Some History Congrats on going to McPherson College. I was offered football scholarship there in 1998 but wasn't sure about the auto degree so I went elsewhere. You can use Google Books to find resources and do some reading. I believe you can only read so many pages, but I did a search on "chevy trucks" and got some good write-ups, here's one: http://books.google.com/books?id=aBu...trucks#PPA7,M1 Always site your sources and don't adopt their style, use your own. Good luck! __________________ '20 Silverado Trail Boss ~ '17 Tahoe ~ '79 K15 Sierra Grande ~ '76 Blazer 2wd ~ '71 Cheyenne swb ~ '55 Pontiac Safari ~'50 3100 bagged ~ '80 Wife ~ Late model kids

01-21-2009, 05:20 PM	#3
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01-21-2009, 08:09 PM	#4
PanelDeland I am a Referee of life. Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Greensboro N.C. Posts: 13,993	Re: Need Help On Some History Check out the local B&N for some good titles on Chevrolet trucks.I have found quite a few there.You could also buy a few from www.motorbooks.com and take them off at tax time as research material. __________________ The 47-present Chevrolet and GMC Truck Message Board Network,it's owners,moderators,members,and associates of any type should not be held responsible for my opinion. You can't fix stupid,not even with duct tape. "My appearance is due to the fact that "GOD" does punish you for having too much fun!" Barrett-Jackson has perfected alchemy,they make rust into gold! "You can lead a horse to water but you can't saddle a duck" "Cleverly disguised as a 'Responsible Adult' "Sometimes your Knight in shining armor is just a retard in tinfoil"

01-21-2009, 08:26 PM	#5
XXL Señor Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Edge of the world Posts: 5,367	Re: Need Help On Some History If you want to write a paper to be taken seriously... the Internet is NOT a source. Use it to track down genuine primary sources, but don't reference Internet information. It's generally wrong. __________________ Craigslist \| ebay \| Engrishtees \| www.myattitudesucks.com \| Follow me on Twitter

01-21-2009, 08:29 PM	#6
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01-21-2009, 09:46 PM	#10
hilandr452 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Colorado Springs, CO Posts: 357	Re: Need Help On Some History Kids these days, I tell YA! Get off yer buttinski and hit the library instead of going to the INTERNET like they told you not to and trying to get a bunch of old farts to do yer homework for ya!! Can you tell I have a teen age son? Good God I've turned into my Grandpa. I feel old... Dan __________________ Dan Smith Colorado Springs, CO 71 GMC Custom Camper "Longhorn" 454, TH400 73 Chevy Camper Special (Yes, it's badged a camper special) Flat Bed Motorhome conversion 454, standard tranny *"DON'T TREAD ON ME !!!"* My Project: http://www.picturetrail.com/sfx/album/view/20829244 , http://www.picturetrail.com/sfx/album/view/24654442

01-21-2009, 09:57 PM	#11
hilandr452 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Colorado Springs, CO Posts: 357	Re: Need Help On Some History I apologize for my last post. I sometimes say what I feel instead of being constructive. I'll try to be nicer in the future. Dan __________________ Dan Smith Colorado Springs, CO 71 GMC Custom Camper "Longhorn" 454, TH400 73 Chevy Camper Special (Yes, it's badged a camper special) Flat Bed Motorhome conversion 454, standard tranny *"DON'T TREAD ON ME !!!"* My Project: http://www.picturetrail.com/sfx/album/view/20829244 , http://www.picturetrail.com/sfx/album/view/24654442

01-21-2009, 08:38 PM	#17
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01-21-2009, 08:40 PM	#18
passthebuck Sisyphus was my mentor! Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Carleton Place, Ontario CANADA Posts: 984	Re: Need Help On Some History There was an excellent article in Classic Trucks magazine a few years back that talked to the designer of our trucks. They interviewed him on our trucks down to the smallest minutae. That article would be gold. __________________ passthebuck #5642 -TWO 1967 GMC 910's. One with L6/3-on-the tree and the other with 355 w/435hp & a 700r4. -a 2013 Honda Civic as my "sensible" car

01-21-2009, 08:43 PM	#20
msgross Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Central PA Posts: 12,201	Re: Need Help On Some History I found this thing in my third year of college that helped... the Library! seriously, check out your local library for books or articles... what do you mean a 750? __________________ The Garage: 1968 K-10 SWB - "Project Money Pit" 1996 Z-71 - "huntin rig" 1969 C-10 LWB (SOLD) "Project flip that truck or else" 1993 Passport, F@rd 1-ton (SOLD)"Project Cousin Eddie" My Garage Build "The 1,000 footer"

01-21-2009, 08:49 PM	#21
tim21391 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Salina, Kansas Posts: 1,998	Re: Need Help On Some History oh sry i ment 750 words... my bad thanks guys im going to look into this.. i procrastinated for a year now but oh well... i got 2 weeks left __________________ 1972 C-10...402/400..flowmaster 40 series 1967 Mustang 347 stroker/C-4 1966 Mustang 289/3-speed 2013 Mustang V6/6speed w/300 ponies I may be 23, but i sure do knows 67-72s are sexy! Its not MPG its smiles per gallon! build started 11/25/08 build thread: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s....php?p=2993796

01-21-2009, 08:55 PM	#22
msgross Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Central PA Posts: 12,201	Re: Need Help On Some History 750 words? that's easy... Make it read like the Bible... "In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth... and after he screwed with the Fords...he gave us Chevrolet!!!" maybe not a good idea for an entry paper, save that one for creative writing... Good luck.. make sure you cite your references per the appropriate method that you've been given... __________________ The Garage: 1968 K-10 SWB - "Project Money Pit" 1996 Z-71 - "huntin rig" 1969 C-10 LWB (SOLD) "Project flip that truck or else" 1993 Passport, F@rd 1-ton (SOLD)"Project Cousin Eddie" My Garage Build "The 1,000 footer"

01-21-2009, 09:03 PM	#23
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01-21-2009, 09:11 PM	#24
ChevLoRay Old Skool Club Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Benton, AR "The Heart of Arkansas" Posts: 10,880	Re: Need Help On Some History I don't mean to sound heartless, but it's gonna come out like that anyway. You've had a year to put together a 750-word paper, and now you're down to 2 weeks? We've been here all that time and had the same advice you're getting now. There's all kinds of reference materials that have been written about these trucks. Like said earlier, a trip to Barnes and Noble bookstore, or Books-A-Million, or Hastings will have you spending time with the books and money to bring them home, if your library doesn't have a copy. Yeah, I'm a dad with 5 grown kids, so you know I've had this same speech for them, just like my dad did for me when I procrastinated. It's the nature of being a kid in school. Heck, I didn't even go to class when I was in college. That little trick got me two trips, halfway around the world.....as I avoided the draft....yep, I'm a draft dodger....enlisted. Edit: The designer for these GM trucks was Harry Bentley Bradley. __________________ Member Nr. 2770 '96 GMC Sportside; 4.3/SLT - Daily driven....constantly needs washed. '69 C-10 SWB; 350/TH400 - in limbo The older I get, the better I was. Last edited by ChevLoRay; 01-21-2009 at 09:15 PM.

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