Turn Key Vortecs - The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network

Bram · 01-08-2003, 04:13 PM

Anyone see what Advanced Adapters is offering now? Turn Key Vortec engines, check the link below.
They're a bit pricey if you ask me. They do have a standalone computer, mite be neat to see how it would do in one of our old trucks?

http://www.advanceadapters.com/newidea.html

jmil1974 · 01-08-2003, 04:26 PM

I could do better than that on price and get the tranny too with not a whole ton of work. It IS a nice package though. I'd be very interested to know where they get their harnesses, HP figures, engines, etc.

Bram · 01-09-2003, 10:01 AM

jmil1974, that's what I was thinking... I could get the engine, and a trany for those prices. They're HP and Torque specs are different than what Chevrolet shows on they're web page?

**1971Stepside** · 01-09-2003, 11:06 AM

I don't know guys. I have been looking a lot of crate engines and yes you can buy some GM performance engines for less, but they are far from being turn key. By the time you buy a starter, belts, pulleys, alt, a/c, ps, carb, etc you will have about the same amount of dollars wrapped up in it. I'm going to look into these a little more.....

jmil1974 · 01-09-2003, 01:36 PM

Well, I'd want to see what they mean by "turn key."

Their HP figures may be resulting from removed emissions and/or improved intake/exhaust, not to mention GM tends to underrate the Vortec/LS1 engines. Any or all of these could be the difference. They look like surprisingly accurate crank numbers to me. LS1 f-bodies have a habit of putting down crank numbers at the rear wheels. I wouldn't doubt if the rest of the GenIII V8s do too.

As far as how I'd do it: I'd go find me a wrecked, low mileage drivetrain and have harness worked and the PCM reprogrammed. Then all that'd be left are mounts and driveshaft issues, which you will have anyway. There's still VERY low mileage cars out there with these motors. That's now I'd do it. If I HAD to have new, AA's package might be a good way to go IF it included all the accessories, exhaust manifolds, harness, sensors, programming, motor mounts, etc.

I knew I would have to clarify on this one, hehe. :p

jmil1974 · 01-09-2003, 01:41 PM

1971Stepside,
If you're really looking into the LS/Vortec motors, I have TONS of links for everything from engines to trannies to harnesses to everything else you'd need to do a GenIII swap. PM me or I can just post 'em here. I have researched this swap a LOT and would be glad to share.

Jason

jmil1974 · 01-09-2003, 01:47 PM

www.speedautomotive.com whole f-body drivetrains

www.lt1350.com expert harness guy for cheap

www.tacreations.com more parts

www.hpsalvage.com GREAT guy in TX, will do the whole swap for reasonable, check his site

www.ls1tech.com great resource for all things related to this engine and swaps
www.ls1.com forums

www.hotrodlane.cc pricey but experts in swaps

www.ebay.com obvious

Here's a start . . .

jmil1974 · 01-09-2003, 01:48 PM

One more, probably the single best source for true turn key swaps
www.speartech.com

**1971Stepside** · 01-09-2003, 03:59 PM

thanks jmil, I will check them out. I'm kinda now leaning towards the big block, but who knows at this point. I just want to be happy with the final decision.....I'll read through those links.

jmil1974 · 01-09-2003, 04:30 PM

Which big block?

I'd look strongly at the 5.7 LS1. Tough to beat that combo of power/light weight/MPG and you can find them fairly easily. There's several guys who swap cams and put on 5.3 heads and make 500HP at the crank.

one more, esp. if you already have an engine
www.affordable-efi.com

**1971Stepside** · 01-09-2003, 06:23 PM

ZZ502 would be nice. I have a friend that builds big blocks for off shore racing boats and he has a new 350 with Dart heads that he can build me with a supercharger (around 450hp) for about the price of a ZZ502. Of course, he recommends the big block as that is what he builds all day. So, do I want a supercharged small block or a standard big block....

Good news is I have a lot of time to decide.....saving the money....

01-08-2003, 04:13 PM	#1
Bram Broke Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: West Plains,MO Posts: 385	Turn Key Vortecs Anyone see what Advanced Adapters is offering now? Turn Key Vortec engines, check the link below. They're a bit pricey if you ask me. They do have a standalone computer, mite be neat to see how it would do in one of our old trucks? http://www.advanceadapters.com/newidea.html __________________ 72CheyenneSuper1ton4x4BigBlock Last edited by Bram; 01-08-2003 at 06:31 PM.

01-08-2003, 04:26 PM	#2
jmil1974 Ain't we cute? Join Date: May 2002 Location: Friendswood, TX Posts: 700	I could do better than that on price and get the tranny too with not a whole ton of work. It IS a nice package though. I'd be very interested to know where they get their harnesses, HP figures, engines, etc. __________________ 69 C10 2WD LWB Fleet 350/350 power front disc conversion (6 lug disc kit from gmcpauls) and new engine, PS, A/C, fresh fluids, SHE DRIVES! FOR SALE $3900

01-09-2003, 10:01 AM	#3
Bram Broke Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: West Plains,MO Posts: 385	jmil1974, that's what I was thinking... I could get the engine, and a trany for those prices. They're HP and Torque specs are different than what Chevrolet shows on they're web page? __________________ 72CheyenneSuper1ton4x4BigBlock

01-09-2003, 11:06 AM	#4
1971Stepside Almost Satisfied Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Springfield, MO Posts: 2,932	I don't know guys. I have been looking a lot of crate engines and yes you can buy some GM performance engines for less, but they are far from being turn key. By the time you buy a starter, belts, pulleys, alt, a/c, ps, carb, etc you will have about the same amount of dollars wrapped up in it. I'm going to look into these a little more..... __________________ 1971 C10 Stepside. LSx 6.0 with BTR Stage IV, Speed Engineering Headers, 4L80e transmission w/3200 Circle-D Stall. 3.73. Posi. Purchased this truck when I was 17. I started the rebuild (or take apart) in 1993. I have drug it around all over the country in pieces. Finally back on the road in 2021. "I can't complain, but sometimes I still do. Life's been good to me so far."

01-09-2003, 01:36 PM	#5
jmil1974 Ain't we cute? Join Date: May 2002 Location: Friendswood, TX Posts: 700	Well, I'd want to see what they mean by "turn key." Their HP figures may be resulting from removed emissions and/or improved intake/exhaust, not to mention GM tends to underrate the Vortec/LS1 engines. Any or all of these could be the difference. They look like surprisingly accurate crank numbers to me. LS1 f-bodies have a habit of putting down crank numbers at the rear wheels. I wouldn't doubt if the rest of the GenIII V8s do too. As far as how I'd do it: I'd go find me a wrecked, low mileage drivetrain and have harness worked and the PCM reprogrammed. Then all that'd be left are mounts and driveshaft issues, which you will have anyway. There's still VERY low mileage cars out there with these motors. That's now I'd do it. If I HAD to have new, AA's package might be a good way to go IF it included all the accessories, exhaust manifolds, harness, sensors, programming, motor mounts, etc. I knew I would have to clarify on this one, hehe. :p __________________ 69 C10 2WD LWB Fleet 350/350 power front disc conversion (6 lug disc kit from gmcpauls) and new engine, PS, A/C, fresh fluids, SHE DRIVES! FOR SALE $3900

01-09-2003, 01:41 PM	#6
jmil1974 Ain't we cute? Join Date: May 2002 Location: Friendswood, TX Posts: 700	1971Stepside, If you're really looking into the LS/Vortec motors, I have TONS of links for everything from engines to trannies to harnesses to everything else you'd need to do a GenIII swap. PM me or I can just post 'em here. I have researched this swap a LOT and would be glad to share. Jason __________________ 69 C10 2WD LWB Fleet 350/350 power front disc conversion (6 lug disc kit from gmcpauls) and new engine, PS, A/C, fresh fluids, SHE DRIVES! FOR SALE $3900

01-09-2003, 01:47 PM	#7
jmil1974 Ain't we cute? Join Date: May 2002 Location: Friendswood, TX Posts: 700	www.speedautomotive.com whole f-body drivetrains www.lt1350.com expert harness guy for cheap www.tacreations.com more parts www.hpsalvage.com GREAT guy in TX, will do the whole swap for reasonable, check his site www.ls1tech.com great resource for all things related to this engine and swaps www.ls1.com forums www.hotrodlane.cc pricey but experts in swaps www.ebay.com obvious Here's a start . . . __________________ 69 C10 2WD LWB Fleet 350/350 power front disc conversion (6 lug disc kit from gmcpauls) and new engine, PS, A/C, fresh fluids, SHE DRIVES! FOR SALE $3900

01-09-2003, 01:48 PM	#8
jmil1974 Ain't we cute? Join Date: May 2002 Location: Friendswood, TX Posts: 700	One more, probably the single best source for true turn key swaps www.speartech.com __________________ 69 C10 2WD LWB Fleet 350/350 power front disc conversion (6 lug disc kit from gmcpauls) and new engine, PS, A/C, fresh fluids, SHE DRIVES! FOR SALE $3900

01-09-2003, 03:59 PM	#9
1971Stepside Almost Satisfied Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Springfield, MO Posts: 2,932	thanks jmil, I will check them out. I'm kinda now leaning towards the big block, but who knows at this point. I just want to be happy with the final decision.....I'll read through those links. __________________ 1971 C10 Stepside. LSx 6.0 with BTR Stage IV, Speed Engineering Headers, 4L80e transmission w/3200 Circle-D Stall. 3.73. Posi. Purchased this truck when I was 17. I started the rebuild (or take apart) in 1993. I have drug it around all over the country in pieces. Finally back on the road in 2021. "I can't complain, but sometimes I still do. Life's been good to me so far."

01-09-2003, 04:30 PM	#10
jmil1974 Ain't we cute? Join Date: May 2002 Location: Friendswood, TX Posts: 700	Which big block? I'd look strongly at the 5.7 LS1. Tough to beat that combo of power/light weight/MPG and you can find them fairly easily. There's several guys who swap cams and put on 5.3 heads and make 500HP at the crank. one more, esp. if you already have an engine www.affordable-efi.com __________________ 69 C10 2WD LWB Fleet 350/350 power front disc conversion (6 lug disc kit from gmcpauls) and new engine, PS, A/C, fresh fluids, SHE DRIVES! FOR SALE $3900

01-09-2003, 06:23 PM	#11
1971Stepside Almost Satisfied Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Springfield, MO Posts: 2,932	ZZ502 would be nice. I have a friend that builds big blocks for off shore racing boats and he has a new 350 with Dart heads that he can build me with a supercharger (around 450hp) for about the price of a ZZ502. Of course, he recommends the big block as that is what he builds all day. So, do I want a supercharged small block or a standard big block.... Good news is I have a lot of time to decide.....saving the money.... __________________ 1971 C10 Stepside. LSx 6.0 with BTR Stage IV, Speed Engineering Headers, 4L80e transmission w/3200 Circle-D Stall. 3.73. Posi. Purchased this truck when I was 17. I started the rebuild (or take apart) in 1993. I have drug it around all over the country in pieces. Finally back on the road in 2021. "I can't complain, but sometimes I still do. Life's been good to me so far."

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