Pull Engine With Hood On????? - The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network

**DANTIP** · 11-26-2009, 11:26 AM

Is it possible/reasonable to try to pull engine without removing the hood? If I can avoid it I will.

Someone please save me if this is a really BAD idea!

**JDL** · 11-26-2009, 11:32 AM

I have done it. you tack off the carb and use a plate that bolts in place of it.

Hottrucks · 11-26-2009, 11:47 AM

Here let me Help

NO!!!!!!!!

take a sharpy and trace the hood hindge on the hood ( spray paint works best ) it will leave a perfect place to put the hood back on

**Stocker** · 11-26-2009, 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hottrucks

Here let me Help

NO!!!!!!!!

take a sharpy and trace the hood hindge on the hood ( spray paint works best ) it will leave a perfect place to put the hood back on

This gets my vote

**BIG ORANGE** · 11-26-2009, 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hottrucks

Here let me Help

NO!!!!!!!!

take a sharpy and trace the hood hindge on the hood ( spray paint works best ) it will leave a perfect place to put the hood back on

Listen to this guy, he knows what he is talking about. REMOVE the hood!!!

hayhauler71 · 11-26-2009, 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JDL

I have done it. you tack off the carb and use a plate that bolts in place of it.

x2 as long as the trans is not with it.

CSGAS · 11-26-2009, 11:59 AM

It's a bad idea!!!

That is, "If you have to ask, it's a bad idea."

People who've removed a lot of engines know a lot of tricks picked up from many engine removals. With a few turns at it under your belt, you'll be able to predict which way the engine will swing and sway as you pull it, and what points you'll have to stop and adjust the engine height.

After pulling the engine with all safety precautions in place the first few times, then you can try pulling it with the hood on. Yes, it can be done, but to prevent damage to the hood you have to know which side of the hood latch and braces you need to start out on, what your main obstacles you'll have to work around getting past the linage, exhaust and steering, how to avoid putting the engine through the core support and so on. You'll decide if loosening the hood hinges or mounts will help or hinder you and if you want to take the wheels off and lower the front or not.

Thinking and planning won't anticipate everything, especially since every truck is unique. Do yours the safe way the first time, with an eye towards figuring out the answers for the next time.

When you get to the point that you don't have to ask us if it's a bad idea; that's when it's not a bad idea any longer.

**too much stuff** · 11-26-2009, 12:14 PM

I think it can be done, but it is only 4 bolts. Why take a chance?

**fine69** · 11-26-2009, 12:16 PM

It can be done. But why take the chance of more damage than just taking the hood off?

My vote, BAD IDEA.

Richard8971 · 11-26-2009, 12:21 PM

When I took my motor out for my recent rebuild, I took the transmission out with the engine. Lots less work overall and yeah, you should take the hood off.

Takes only a minute and gives you a heck of allot more room to move around in. The trouble of removing the motor from the transmission before you remove it from the truck is a bit more work than taking them both out together with the hood removed.

You will need a load spreader (if that's what they are called) on your hoist to get the engine and transmission out at the same time. I have a 700R4 and I still had plenty of room to take them both out at the same time.

Don

**slomotion** · 11-26-2009, 12:26 PM

I wouldn't do it either. The easiest way I've discovered to re-locate the hood is to drill a 1/8th inch hole throught the hinge bracket and hood on both sides. Remove the hood. When it comes time to reassemble the hood, insert the bolts loosely, and jog the hood until you can put the drill through the holes. Tighten down the bolts, and remove the drill bits.

**clay68c10** · 11-26-2009, 12:32 PM

I like that drill bit idea.

I've pulled my BBC with the hood on, but I don't think I'd do it again. I'm voting to remove the hood.

blukangoo · 11-26-2009, 01:40 PM

The idea with the drill bit sounds pretty good but like me, I don´t like to drill any holes anywhere unless I have to.
I marked mine with a fine tipped permanent marker and lined them back up when I put the hood back on.

I would take the hood off. If I remember right, it would have been in the way when I yanked my engine. I had the whole front end off anyways. That made it alot easier.

cdowns · 11-26-2009, 03:18 PM

the few minutes to remove hood is worth the effort//if you're working alone just hook up the hoist to the front of the hood unbolt the hinges after marking and walk the hood of without any damage//should take less than 12minutes to do the hood removal

**slomotion** · 11-26-2009, 03:28 PM

I know it's hard to drill the hole, but it's far less damage then chipping paint with a mis-aligned hood, and after everything is assembled the hole is so small you have to look for it to see it. All you need to do is use a "Q-tip" to put a dab of paint/sealer in the hole.

Longhorn Man · 11-26-2009, 03:32 PM

you could leave your home after thanksgiving dinner and contaminate the bathroom at the corner gas station just to keep from stinking your own up.
But more bad could come from it than good.

**slomotion** · 11-26-2009, 03:51 PM

Ummm, Longhorn.......only if I REALLY screwed up the hood!

jim zag · 11-26-2009, 06:49 PM

It is easier with the hood off. Get some friends to help. I finally bought an engine tilter from my local Tractor Supply and you can r and r the engine with the transmission in the truck. I have done it. You just need to support the trans in the front with the engine out.

Wrenchbender Ret · 11-26-2009, 07:56 PM

I have pulled hundreds of them & never pull the hood. I remove one hinge bolt & loosen the other & open it up further. Or take out the front bolt of the hinge & loosen the other & put a block of wood in it.

chadio72 · 11-26-2009, 11:37 PM

Ive done it lots of times, but only because i didnt have the needed help to pull the hood. trust me, its easier to deal with hoodless !

j_cst_10 · 11-27-2009, 02:37 AM

If your not scared about pulling an engine, but scared about pulling the hood off.... You may want to think twice about what your doing

....but seriously.

68_chop_top · 11-27-2009, 09:32 AM

If you have a cherry picker, then removing the engine is possible with the hood on. Removing the transmission will make it easier.
If you only have a chain hoist, then removing the hood and tranny is mandatory!

hotrod 80 · 11-27-2009, 10:28 AM

Yep , it can be done . It's close , but it can be done .

Thealien · 12-05-2009, 08:07 PM

Hey that looks familiar

**special-K** · 12-05-2009, 08:34 PM

I`d poop at the gas station...er,I mean take the hood off.

11-26-2009, 11:26 AM	#1
DANTIP Registered User Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Fort Wayne, Indiana, USA Posts: 1,889	Pull Engine With Hood On????? Is it possible/reasonable to try to pull engine without removing the hood? If I can avoid it I will. Someone please save me if this is a really BAD idea!

11-26-2009, 11:32 AM	#2
JDL Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Agency IA. Posts: 1,845	Re: Pull Engine With Hood On????? I have done it. you tack off the carb and use a plate that bolts in place of it. __________________ 72 Chevy short step side with 454 air and tilt. 72 nova project car 63 chevy II drag car Agency Iowa Last edited by JDL; 11-26-2009 at 11:32 AM.

11-26-2009, 11:47 AM	#3
Hottrucks Redefining LowBudget Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: lebanon Cow Hampshire Posts: 4,538	Re: Pull Engine With Hood On????? Here let me Help NO!!!!!!!! take a sharpy and trace the hood hindge on the hood ( spray paint works best ) it will leave a perfect place to put the hood back on __________________ 1970 C10 CST fleetside 472 ....big dreams little cash... http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=335721 SunShine Syndicate.. Mikes Sandwich Fair Run OCT 8th 2011 http://www.thesandwichfair.com/html/...auto_show.html

11-26-2009, 11:59 AM	#7
CSGAS optomistic ah-so Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 544	Re: Pull Engine With Hood On????? It's a bad idea!!! That is, "If you have to ask, it's a bad idea." People who've removed a lot of engines know a lot of tricks picked up from many engine removals. With a few turns at it under your belt, you'll be able to predict which way the engine will swing and sway as you pull it, and what points you'll have to stop and adjust the engine height. After pulling the engine with all safety precautions in place the first few times, then you can try pulling it with the hood on. Yes, it can be done, but to prevent damage to the hood you have to know which side of the hood latch and braces you need to start out on, what your main obstacles you'll have to work around getting past the linage, exhaust and steering, how to avoid putting the engine through the core support and so on. You'll decide if loosening the hood hinges or mounts will help or hinder you and if you want to take the wheels off and lower the front or not. Thinking and planning won't anticipate everything, especially since every truck is unique. Do yours the safe way the first time, with an eye towards figuring out the answers for the next time. When you get to the point that you don't have to ask us if it's a bad idea; that's when it's not a bad idea any longer. __________________ Rubbing is Racin' Ribbing is Bench Racin' 1970 C-10 lwb Fleetside. Originally 350 2-bbl 3-on-the-tree, m/b, m/w, m/s no a/c. Currently running on a '76 Camaro 305.

11-26-2009, 12:14 PM	#8
too much stuff Roadtrip! Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Grand Rapids MN Posts: 13,768	Re: Pull Engine With Hood On????? I think it can be done, but it is only 4 bolts. Why take a chance? __________________ 67 gmc custom lwb dakota truck. Sold...And bought back 69 swb 4x4 project (in progress) 70 c-10 lwb texas truck 70 4x4/BB/bkts/posi/tach(retired) 70 swb (wifes) 70 jimmy camper 71 K-5 factory 2wd 71 cheyenne 4x4/tach/posi/ plow rig 71 Cheyenne20 BB, buckets, tach, tilt, 4 speed 72 jimmy CST wyoming rig 72 jimmy Colorado rig 72 lifted texas 4x4 3/4 ton burb 65 fury conv. 383/auto 65 chrysler 300 "L" 413 auto

11-26-2009, 12:16 PM	#9
fine69 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Urbana,Ohio,USA Posts: 4,618	Re: Pull Engine With Hood On????? It can be done. But why take the chance of more damage than just taking the hood off? My vote, BAD IDEA. __________________ 2008 Chevy HHR 1/2 panel. 1949 Chevy Panel truck(just sittin, waiting) Board member #6 Last edited by fine69; 11-26-2009 at 12:16 PM.

11-26-2009, 12:21 PM	#10
Richard8971 Still livin the "dream" in '54 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 2,656	Re: Pull Engine With Hood On????? When I took my motor out for my recent rebuild, I took the transmission out with the engine. Lots less work overall and yeah, you should take the hood off. Takes only a minute and gives you a heck of allot more room to move around in. The trouble of removing the motor from the transmission before you remove it from the truck is a bit more work than taking them both out together with the hood removed. You will need a load spreader (if that's what they are called) on your hoist to get the engine and transmission out at the same time. I have a 700R4 and I still had plenty of room to take them both out at the same time. Don __________________ Current build. 1954 Chevrolet 3800 "Ella" SOLD! My '67 stepper "Tangerine Dream" "Anything worth doing is worth doing right" James Dean “When you have eliminated all which is impossible, then whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth.” Sherlock Holmes "There is no spoon." Neo

11-26-2009, 12:26 PM	#11
slomotion Old Duffer Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Maine Posts: 1,822	Re: Pull Engine With Hood On????? I wouldn't do it either. The easiest way I've discovered to re-locate the hood is to drill a 1/8th inch hole throught the hinge bracket and hood on both sides. Remove the hood. When it comes time to reassemble the hood, insert the bolts loosely, and jog the hood until you can put the drill through the holes. Tighten down the bolts, and remove the drill bits. __________________ '68 Short C20 Flatbed Dually w/ 292 4bbl, Langdon cast headers, and WC T5 trans. '81 G10 Shorty Van "Good judgement comes from experience, and a lot of that comes from bad judgement." Will Rogers "Under promise, then over achieve."

11-26-2009, 12:32 PM	#12
clay68c10 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Centennial, CO Posts: 2,979	Re: Pull Engine With Hood On????? I like that drill bit idea. I've pulled my BBC with the hood on, but I don't think I'd do it again. I'm voting to remove the hood. __________________ ClusterTruck: 68 C10 Bought in 89, wrecked in 03. Slow low $ rebuild started '17. 6.0 & TKO http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=788602 93 K1500 Short Step, 350, NV4500, EBL flash ECU. Vortec heads & roller cam someday... 05 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited. 3” lift & 6-speed 02 E320 the insurance total “free car” 13 Tahoe LTZ

11-26-2009, 01:40 PM	#13
blukangoo Neighborhood Pickle Slinger Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Cadolzburg, Bavaria, Germany Posts: 2,224	Re: Pull Engine With Hood On????? The idea with the drill bit sounds pretty good but like me, I don´t like to drill any holes anywhere unless I have to. I marked mine with a fine tipped permanent marker and lined them back up when I put the hood back on. I would take the hood off. If I remember right, it would have been in the way when I yanked my engine. I had the whole front end off anyways. That made it alot easier. __________________ -------------------------------------------------- My C10 Diary Our cars: 1966 Chevrolet Chevelle 396 - TH350 1968 Chevrolet C10/CST 327 TH400/375 1969 Corvette Stingray 350 - Muncie Manual Trans 1969 Chevrolet ElCamino 350 - TH400 1970 Cutlass Supreme Convertible - 350 Rocket - TH350 1973 Camaro LT - New Engine Done - TH350 1973 Corvette Convertible 454 - TH400

11-26-2009, 03:18 PM	#14
cdowns Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: daytonabeach Posts: 22,956	Re: Pull Engine With Hood On????? the few minutes to remove hood is worth the effort//if you're working alone just hook up the hoist to the front of the hood unbolt the hinges after marking and walk the hood of without any damage//should take less than 12minutes to do the hood removal __________________ 71c-10 350/2004r/4:11 lowered3/4 longbed/dead by hurricane MEANING OF DEATH::::: SOMEBODY ELSE GETS YOUR STUFF DONT BELIEVE EVERYTHING YOU THINK TAKE MY ADVISE;I DON'T USE IT ANYWAY

11-26-2009, 03:28 PM	#15
slomotion Old Duffer Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Maine Posts: 1,822	Re: Pull Engine With Hood On????? I know it's hard to drill the hole, but it's far less damage then chipping paint with a mis-aligned hood, and after everything is assembled the hole is so small you have to look for it to see it. All you need to do is use a "Q-tip" to put a dab of paint/sealer in the hole. __________________ '68 Short C20 Flatbed Dually w/ 292 4bbl, Langdon cast headers, and WC T5 trans. '81 G10 Shorty Van "Good judgement comes from experience, and a lot of that comes from bad judgement." Will Rogers "Under promise, then over achieve."

11-26-2009, 03:32 PM	#16
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,693	Re: Pull Engine With Hood On????? you could leave your home after thanksgiving dinner and contaminate the bathroom at the corner gas station just to keep from stinking your own up. But more bad could come from it than good.

11-26-2009, 03:51 PM	#17
slomotion Old Duffer Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Maine Posts: 1,822	Re: Pull Engine With Hood On????? Ummm, Longhorn.......only if I REALLY screwed up the hood! __________________ '68 Short C20 Flatbed Dually w/ 292 4bbl, Langdon cast headers, and WC T5 trans. '81 G10 Shorty Van "Good judgement comes from experience, and a lot of that comes from bad judgement." Will Rogers "Under promise, then over achieve."

11-26-2009, 06:49 PM	#18
jim zag ENGINE BUILDER Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Shortsville n.y. Posts: 344	Re: Pull Engine With Hood On????? It is easier with the hood off. Get some friends to help. I finally bought an engine tilter from my local Tractor Supply and you can r and r the engine with the transmission in the truck. I have done it. You just need to support the trans in the front with the engine out. __________________ JIM ZAG



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11-26-2009, 07:56 PM	#19
Wrenchbender Ret Registered User Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Overland Park, Ks. Posts: 5,228	Re: Pull Engine With Hood On????? I have pulled hundreds of them & never pull the hood. I remove one hinge bolt & loosen the other & open it up further. Or take out the front bolt of the hinge & loosen the other & put a block of wood in it.

11-26-2009, 11:37 PM	#20
chadio72 Truck Enthusiast Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: merced, ca Posts: 20	Re: Pull Engine With Hood On????? Ive done it lots of times, but only because i didnt have the needed help to pull the hood. trust me, its easier to deal with hoodless ! __________________ Chadio72 and his toys 67 C10 longfleet beater 68/01 K10 (4.8/4L65E project) 72 C30 Flatbed (400hp400) 66 Harley Davidson Shovelhead

11-27-2009, 02:37 AM	#21
j_cst_10 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Cleveland, OH Posts: 592	Re: Pull Engine With Hood On????? If your not scared about pulling an engine, but scared about pulling the hood off.... You may want to think twice about what your doing....but seriously. Last edited by j_cst_10; 11-27-2009 at 02:39 AM.

11-27-2009, 09:32 AM	#22
68_chop_top Registered User Join Date: May 2008 Location: Granbury, TEXAS Posts: 250	Re: Pull Engine With Hood On????? If you have a cherry picker, then removing the engine is possible with the hood on. Removing the transmission will make it easier. If you only have a chain hoist, then removing the hood and tranny is mandatory! __________________ Mine is chopped, has a clutch, and a big block.

11-27-2009, 10:28 AM	#23
hotrod 80 mini truck racer Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Baytown , texas Posts: 3,010	Re: Pull Engine With Hood On????? Yep , it can be done . It's close , but it can be done . __________________ 1949 5-window 1969 Camaro 1976 Chevy Luv yellow 1978 Chevy Luv Blue 1976 Chevy Luv Black 1979 Firebird Flooded in Harvey 1999 F350 Dually 2005 GMC Sierra 4.8 RCSB 2014 Explorer (wifes) My build :http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=399148 Build #2: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=653583

12-05-2009, 08:07 PM	#24
Thealien Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Pine Ridge Florida Posts: 4,125	Re: Pull Engine With Hood On????? Hey that looks familiar

12-05-2009, 08:34 PM	#25
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