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Balancing
Hi,so I'm looking at buying a Longbox c10(64),and was wondering what I should do to try and add some weight to the rear for better handling.Heres what I got so far:
1. Moving the gas tank to the rear 2.Using fibre glass in the front 3. Moving the engine back So ya I would appreciate feedback and ideas.Thanks |
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Re: Balancing
The trucks that I've had in the past were newer models. I have found that I like the ride a little better with about 200lbs in back. In my case I used hard tonneau covers that weigh a little over that. It lowered the back of the truck very slightly and rode smoother.
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Re: Balancing
Move the battery to the back
fuel tank back Softer rear springs
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Re: Balancing
you will need to put the dist next to your butt cheak to make any real differance.
diamond plate bed floor gas tank battery sparetire carrier heavy bumper....... |
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Re: Balancing
Dude just put some weight in the bed.... could be free if your creative or have enough crap laying around.... Gas tank will do almost nothing being as stock location is in the middle of the truck. Relocating the battery gives you 50 or so pounds.... Moving the engine back.... Honestly without completely altering the design of the truck I think you would spend moeny and time and have little benefits.
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Re: Balancing
movin the battery back to the rear is like movin the engine back 10 inches
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Re: Balancing
How hard would it be to say move the engine back a few inches?
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Re: Balancing
what engine / trans combo are you using?
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Re: Balancing
If your running a v8 you`re already in the rear most holes in the front crossmember/motor mounts, to go any further, you`ll have to cut and build new fire wall, move transmission mount , fab new motor mounts off of frame, shorten drive shaft, cut new hole in floor for shifter, longer radiator hoses, new fan shroud, and a host of things I haven`t even thought of....
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Re: Balancing
i plan to mount my spare under the bed... i got one of those winder upper brackets off a newer model pickup. othe rthan that i would say less stiff rear springs is the easiest remedy
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Re: Balancing
62GMC is right, MOVE or REMOVE your weight, don't ADD weight.
Besides, your safer with the fuel out of the cab, and the battery will live longer away from underhood heat. I've heard nothing but bad reports on fiberglass parts for our trucks..hoods mainly.
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Re: Balancing
Pour or affix lead to the inside of your rear bumper, it's compact, invisible and it will put the weight behind the rear axle.
A buddy of mine did it with his El Camino in the 80's in Flagstaff, Az to help with winter traction- he swore it worked.
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Re: Balancing
Add some weight to see what difference it makes. Back when I drove a 2 wheel drive positraction daily driver I built a wooden storage crate that sat behind the rear wheel inner fenders and the tail gate. Then I added sandbags for weight.
Using this method you can approximate how much weight helps. I used (3) 80 lb bags, made a world of difference. In my case I removed the entire deal during non-winter months. Hope this helps. Last edited by lakeroadster; 01-06-2010 at 08:57 AM. |
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