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Cruise control I.D.
Lots of threads lately about cruise for this year and that, what is correct and what isn't etc... I figured i would dig one out and see if the pros could help with this one. My best guess is a 73 4x4 truck with a V-8. Can anyone confirm or deny? Wish it was complete... Thanks, Eric
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Re: Cruise control I.D.
Eric, I would say for sure 73-74', but I got one out of a 72' highlander at a junkyard that is very similar to this, but the transducer bracket is different where it bolts to the inner fender, and the vacuum bracket is shape a little different. I know Harold has the exact same setup as I do on one of his nice frame up resto's, and onews6 has pics of the same setup you have in his 72'. I still feel there is strong support that these could be considered correct for late 72' as well since I have seen several of these setups pictured in older threads that either match mine or yours, and of course the correct ones according to the manuals. I still stick with my motto that anything is possible over the years. Trevor
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Re: Cruise control I.D.
I had a feeling you would reply. Thanks for the info. One piece of paper reads march-73. I suppose i should try to find the missing parts for this one. Let me know if you need any better pics of anything. Thanks trevor...
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Re: Cruise control I.D.
What is missing from it Eric? You could always get rid of it.
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Re: Cruise control I.D.
Eric, I will try and get some pics of my setup that I took from that 72' highlander. Like I said, there are some slight variations in the brackets. If you don't mind, I would like to see the installation diagram, I am going to be clueless by the time it is actually going to go into my crew cab a couple of years away. Trevor
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Re: Cruise control I.D.
the vacuum bracket I have is similar but fits the fender well and the servo bracket is definitely different from what your kit shows. I will try to get a picture of it and a 68 system that I have as well. Harold
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Re: Cruise control I.D.
Hi Eric,
I am with the 73 and up crowd. Jeff
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Re: Cruise control I.D.
TMS, Any chance of getting a good scan of all the paper work from that kit? It looks very similar to what is on my truck. My cruise has been disabled for a while. Through the years it has fallen apart. At some point I want to repair it. I could see a copy of that paperwork coming in real handy when I do it.
You can see in this pic the diaphragm is toast and there is a stud screwed in to the one vacuum line. I have no idea where that line should go. ![]()
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Re: Cruise control I.D.
Eric, the system ohone has pictured is the same system that I have on my truck. It is also the same system that trevor pulled from the 72 he parted. You notice the difference in the the vacuum pot bracket vs. the unit you have your unit is more than likely for 73 up. Rod would be the member to speak with in regards to correctness as he is a wealth of info on these units, but I have not seen him in forever. Harold
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Re: Cruise control I.D.
What am I missing about the bracket? It looks the same to me. It's just upside down in the box.
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Re: Cruise control I.D.
I will try to get some better pics tomorrow...
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Re: Cruise control I.D.
yeah, I agree that the vacuum bracket that Eric has is the same that ohonews6 has on his truck, but mine is shape different. Mine does not have both 90 degree angles, and the transducer bracket is different. I'll dig up some pics that I have of it that I took of it while it was still in the truck at the junkyard. Trevor
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Re: Cruise control I.D.
I wish Rod would weigh in also. He has answered this question already though.
See this thread http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=136867 Fun discussion, always interesting guys.
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Re: Cruise control I.D.
Jeff, I did talk to Rod about this awhile back. He did say it was possible as Harold and I have the same setup and then Ohonews6 has a similar setup, but me and Ohonews6 have or got them off of 72's, I think Harold's was on his 71. I have no doubt that the setup you have on your 71 is definitely correct for 71-72, but maybe just maybe this could be a late 72' dealer installed thing? I don't claim it to be, but maybe some dealer's installed these as the new 73's were coming out? That's why I say it could be a late 72' thing as the 73's would be coming out then. Trevor
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Re: Cruise control I.D.
Notice how many pics of cruise systems on Jeff's link use that Servo bracket setup. It appears to be pretty common, also Bob Moore listed a buddy had a cruise setup on a 71 or 72 that the vacuum was below the horn, which would be quite like the setup I found on the 72. It could be all these parts were replaced over the years, but there are an awful lot of setups similar to the cruise systems in question. Trevor
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You are trying to determine that the NOS unit in the Box that you have is for a 73 & up or if it will be correct for a 72 & earlier install??? Is there a 1972 Truck Cruise Control thread regarding these? My LONGHORN has a Cruise Control on it; I think that the Dealer installed it. My Truck is a BB if it matters. It's installed exactly as I purchased the truck and I have yet to touch it so it is as it is installed. Would pics of mine be helpful ???
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Re: Cruise control I.D.
Pics always help RPOZ11. Yes, we are discussing whether or not Eric's (Toomuchstuff) cruise control would be correct for a 72' cruise control system. We know what is correct 68-70', and 71-72', but not sure if this setup would be considered correct for a late 72' truck as the 73' models would be coming out, or early 73 when 72's were still on car lots and had to get sold. Trevor
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Re: Cruise control I.D.
Mine was definitely a dealer installed unit, and it was done in 72 not 71 when the truck was new, the original owner did not remember when but he stated that he had it put on after he bought the truck... for what that is worth. By 71 they were definitely dealer add ons as I think 69 or 70 was the last year available as an option. As I have understood it they were having problems with them and people weren't buying them so they discontinued the option and moved it to accessories. This falls into 8 track realm as there are least 2 different 8 tracks that were available through the dealer and both a correct. I would think that then as now as parts availability dictated that was what was passed across the counter, as it all served the same purpose and was hooked up the same. The set up that Eric has I have seen on later g series vans as well, but the diaphram bracket is different. After looking at the bracket in Erics post again, it looks like the bracket that is on my unit. The unit that Roger has listed for sale I believe is the generally accepted unit for our trucks, with the type Trevor, OHone and I have were prob. units added later on -as in late 72. Anything and everything can and does happen at a dealership, when I was working in one while in college a salesman sold a z71 but ordered a regular 4x4, the new owner came in and pitched a fit (rightfully so) and three days later he had a z71- built from the parts room and order desk. Same truck with added skid plates, stickers etc. that came with the z71 designation. If it happens now, it happened then. Forty years from now someone is going to flip out trying to figure out the deal on that truck (if it has not rusted to the ground or crushed as a clunker).
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Re: Cruise control I.D.
this is interesting stuff here. I am wanting to put cruise on my truck some day. would it work w/ an edelbrock carb?
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Re: Cruise control I.D.
It should be fairly simple to add with the Edelbrock. There are a number of universal aftermarket cruise options available today. Especially if you do not want a period correct cruise.
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Great info. guys Sorry Guys for the thread jack, just trying to answer a question
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Did you see the new pics I posted in your thread?
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No, I'll go look. Thanks for your time
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Re: Cruise control I.D.
I don't know when mine was installed but what I do know is that cruise was on it when my dad bought the truck. It was in the mid 80's and it had 107K on the clock. At that time the truck looked show room new and the cruise certainly looked original to the truck. I remember commenting on it when he brought the truck home. My guess would be, as some have already stated, the truck was purchased new in late 72 early 73 and the cruise was installed at that time by the dealer.
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Hey Eric. I will pay all the cost for you to go to kinkos or somewhere and get a good copy of all that paperwork to mail to me. Once I get it I will scan it and make a PDF to post for anyone who wants it.
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