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MrGoodpliers · 02-01-2010, 11:49 AM

While surfing around on the web looking at ads for classics, it seems to me that there are lots of good, solid cars from Washington and Oregon. Is this true, or is it my imagination? It doesn't really compute for me because my brother-in-law lived in Seattle and said that it rains about 364 days per year. So, how is it that the cars aren't rusted worse than they are here in the southeast?

**GruntMoanCough** · 02-01-2010, 12:57 PM

Probably the vehicles from the eastern side of those states. We have the same thing here in the southern interior of B.C., which is an extension of the same kind of dry region.
Also, I live about 100 miles north of Vancouver which has about the same rainfall as Seattle, but little or no snow, and vehicles from there are not nearly as rusty as ones up here.

72 cheyenne pdx · 02-01-2010, 02:06 PM

Eastern Oregon and Washington are deserts, so there is a good amount of vehicles in good/great shape. In the winter we don't get a lot of snow, so they don't use salt on our roads. The vehicles on the coast aren't as good due to the ocean unless cared for. My truck is from the coast and it has more rust than I was expecting, but it still wasn't that bad as it had a spot in the garage.

JRBECK64 · 02-01-2010, 03:11 PM

I dont think its about the rain as much as we use Gravel on the roads here instead of salt so the cars probably have a ton of rock chips and no rust. But everything hear molds or grows moss.
JRBECK64

Brad · 02-01-2010, 04:31 PM

While we have a lot of precipitation compared to CA & AZ and 15 different ways of calling it rain, we don't use salt on the roads here in the West as opposed to the rest of the country for when it snows. Here in the PNW we have an abundance of rock and gravel which comes from being next to the mountains and foothills and since it doesn't snow to the degree the rest of the country gets, we just use cheap gravel and sand when we have to.

If car guys are honest with themselves, we can agree that there is a CA & AZ mystique that we love and while there may be a little less rust in vehicles coming from these states, in many cases one will still have to replace the same rockers, kick panels, and cab corners as one coming from the PNW and in general you'll find that PNW trucks and classic cars really don't have it much worse than the CA & AZ vehicles. We simply pay for it in cracked and nicked windshields and rock chips in our hoods and grills.

It's really all about the salt.

C10-Driver · 02-01-2010, 05:04 PM

I live in the Okanagan Valley in British Columbia which is located at the Northern tip of a desert. That desert continues down through Spokane, Yakima and all the way down past Bend, Oregon. It is a very dry, arid climate and having bought parts and vehicles in this part of the country, I can confirm there are a lot of good classic vehicles in the area you speak about.

Mertz · 02-01-2010, 05:16 PM

I live in Spokane "the desert" on the east side where we get less rain than Seattle but do get snow (last 2 years we set records with over 2 feet on the ground for most of the winter, this year nothing). They have changed from salt to another chemical to melt snow. I see a lot of nice 67 to 72 trucks around here. A lot of them have rust in the door sills but a lot don't. I bought a local car original purchased in Coeur d'Alene and it has the sill rust but otherwise if very good condition. I usually see 2 to 3 67 to 72 trucks parked when I drive around.

**Stocker** · 02-02-2010, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Mertz

They have changed from salt to another chemical to melt snow.

Probably calcium chloride or calcium carbonate, or a similar substance... bad news in any case. They use that here (along with salt) and it does a good job of inhibiting ice formation, but it is also highly corrosive.

Sub-versive · 02-02-2010, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Stocker

Probably calcium chloride or calcium carbonate, or a similar substance... bad news in any case. They use that here (along with salt) and it does a good job of inhibiting ice formation, but it is also highly corrosive.

They use magnesium chloride in liquid form as a preventative measure for ice, but it only works if it doesn't rain.

GASoline71 · 02-02-2010, 04:42 PM

Yep... just look at this rustbucket I brought home 3 years ago...

this is how it looked the day I brought it home. Yarded it out of a field in Snohomish, WA (West Side). It had been sitting there on 4 flat tires for about 12 years prior to me finding it...

Thats my "rustbucket" 1979 High Sierra in the background...

Gary

red71c10 · 02-02-2010, 04:49 PM

Have I mentioned that I was dumb enough to buy a truck that came out here from Indiana instead of getting a mostly rust free west coast one? I should have known better, but now I'll just have to deal with it. The Red Menace is the truck for me, and I'll get it's cancer cured one of these days!

pmpski_1 · 02-02-2010, 01:57 AM

Like they say, it's all about the salt.

Couple years back I got a chance to spend some time on a big wheat ranch in NE Oregon. When the farm trucks finally broke down to a point where they couldn't fix them anymore they put them in the "boneyard". The ranch has been around for a while and there were vehicles there from the 30s that hadn't rusted away. Most of them were pretty solid, even after being outside for all these years.

I grew up in the midwest, so I was pretty blown away...

screamin_c10 · 02-02-2010, 10:05 AM

SSSHHHH!!! Dont tell anybody....we wanna keep 'em all to ourselves.

FRENCHBLUE72 · 02-02-2010, 03:18 PM

There are no good classics in oregon or washington they are all rusted beyond repair..

Dingfodgy · 02-02-2010, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by FRENCHBLUE72

There are no good classics in oregon or washington they are all rusted beyond repair..

FRENCHBLUE72 is right- ya'll need to just fogeddabout the NW and get the really choice iron out of Cali or AZ- our junk up here is just that- junk!

Sub-versive · 02-02-2010, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by FRENCHBLUE72

There are no good classics in oregon or washington they are all rusted beyond repair..

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dingfodgy

FRENCHBLUE72 is right- ya'll need to just fogeddabout the NW and get the really choice iron out of Cali or AZ- our junk up here is just that- junk!

That's right, nothing to see here!

**Stocker** · 02-02-2010, 04:10 PM

Tom McCall would have appreciated the direction this thread is headed

Sub-versive · 02-02-2010, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Stocker

Tom McCall would have appreciated the direction this thread is headed

You bet. Come visit, spend your money, and then go away!

02-01-2010, 11:49 AM	#1
MrGoodpliers Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Gainesville, Georgia Posts: 704	Solid Pacific Northwest classics? While surfing around on the web looking at ads for classics, it seems to me that there are lots of good, solid cars from Washington and Oregon. Is this true, or is it my imagination? It doesn't really compute for me because my brother-in-law lived in Seattle and said that it rains about 364 days per year. So, how is it that the cars aren't rusted worse than they are here in the southeast? __________________ We made Oklahoma a little after 3, Randy & his brother Bob & my old GMC...

02-01-2010, 12:57 PM	#2
GruntMoanCough Registered User Join Date: May 2009 Location: Pemberton, BC Posts: 1,075	Re: Solid Pacific Northwest classics? Probably the vehicles from the eastern side of those states. We have the same thing here in the southern interior of B.C., which is an extension of the same kind of dry region. Also, I live about 100 miles north of Vancouver which has about the same rainfall as Seattle, but little or no snow, and vehicles from there are not nearly as rusty as ones up here. __________________ My goal in life is to be as good a person as my dog already thinks I am - Unknown

02-01-2010, 02:06 PM	#3
72 cheyenne pdx Registered User Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Portland Posts: 382	Re: Solid Pacific Northwest classics? Eastern Oregon and Washington are deserts, so there is a good amount of vehicles in good/great shape. In the winter we don't get a lot of snow, so they don't use salt on our roads. The vehicles on the coast aren't as good due to the ocean unless cared for. My truck is from the coast and it has more rust than I was expecting, but it still wasn't that bad as it had a spot in the garage.

02-01-2010, 03:11 PM	#4
JRBECK64 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Cornelius Oregon Posts: 1,073	Re: Solid Pacific Northwest classics? I dont think its about the rain as much as we use Gravel on the roads here instead of salt so the cars probably have a ton of rock chips and no rust. But everything hear molds or grows moss. JRBECK64

02-01-2010, 04:31 PM	#5
Brad Out of the carpool lane. Join Date: Jan 2000 Location: Clark Co, WA Posts: 5,672	Re: Solid Pacific Northwest classics? While we have a lot of precipitation compared to CA & AZ and 15 different ways of calling it rain, we don't use salt on the roads here in the West as opposed to the rest of the country for when it snows. Here in the PNW we have an abundance of rock and gravel which comes from being next to the mountains and foothills and since it doesn't snow to the degree the rest of the country gets, we just use cheap gravel and sand when we have to. If car guys are honest with themselves, we can agree that there is a CA & AZ mystique that we love and while there may be a little less rust in vehicles coming from these states, in many cases one will still have to replace the same rockers, kick panels, and cab corners as one coming from the PNW and in general you'll find that PNW trucks and classic cars really don't have it much worse than the CA & AZ vehicles. We simply pay for it in cracked and nicked windshields and rock chips in our hoods and grills. It's really all about the salt. __________________ 1968 C-10 SWB, 5.7 Vortec/700R4/3.73 posi, Torch Red 1968 Camaro, 250/Powerglide, all original (No, I'm not gonna drop a 350 in it!...Jeez!) 2000 Honda VFR in the faster yellow! 2008 Husqvarna TE-610 1967 C-10 SWB 'Six Appeal'-Gone but not forgotten... Last edited by Brad; 02-01-2010 at 04:32 PM.

02-01-2010, 05:04 PM	#6
C10-Driver Chevy Truck Addict Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Kelowna, BC Posts: 1,176	Re: Solid Pacific Northwest classics? I live in the Okanagan Valley in British Columbia which is located at the Northern tip of a desert. That desert continues down through Spokane, Yakima and all the way down past Bend, Oregon. It is a very dry, arid climate and having bought parts and vehicles in this part of the country, I can confirm there are a lot of good classic vehicles in the area you speak about. __________________ . 1970 Chev C/10 SWB, 355 SBC, 700R4, 3.73 Posi, Air Ride (Click to view Build Thread) (SOLD) 1978 Chevy C/10 SWB 1970 Pontiac Lemans .

02-01-2010, 05:16 PM	#7
Mertz Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Reardan, WA Posts: 132	Re: Solid Pacific Northwest classics? I live in Spokane "the desert" on the east side where we get less rain than Seattle but do get snow (last 2 years we set records with over 2 feet on the ground for most of the winter, this year nothing). They have changed from salt to another chemical to melt snow. I see a lot of nice 67 to 72 trucks around here. A lot of them have rust in the door sills but a lot don't. I bought a local car original purchased in Coeur d'Alene and it has the sill rust but otherwise if very good condition. I usually see 2 to 3 67 to 72 trucks parked when I drive around. Last edited by Mertz; 02-01-2010 at 05:17 PM.

02-02-2010, 04:42 PM	#10
GASoline71 "I ain't nobody, dork." Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Whidbey Island, Washington Posts: 8,971	Re: Solid Pacific Northwest classics? Yep... just look at this rustbucket I brought home 3 years ago... this is how it looked the day I brought it home. Yarded it out of a field in Snohomish, WA (West Side). It had been sitting there on 4 flat tires for about 12 years prior to me finding it... Thats my "rustbucket" 1979 High Sierra in the background... Gary

02-02-2010, 04:49 PM	#11
red71c10 The Red Menace Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Roseburg, OR Posts: 577	Re: Solid Pacific Northwest classics? Have I mentioned that I was dumb enough to buy a truck that came out here from Indiana instead of getting a mostly rust free west coast one? I should have known better, but now I'll just have to deal with it. The Red Menace is the truck for me, and I'll get it's cancer cured one of these days! __________________ 1971 Custom 10 - 350/350TH - Pwr steering, gauges, Chrome front bumper, Chrome hubcaps, Door edge guards, HD rear springs (current) 1968 C-20 Custom Camper - 350/350TH (orig 327), Pwr steering & brakes, gauges w/tach (former) 1968 C-20 - 307/3sp column (Dad's when I was a kid) "Driving is like coloring. Things get messy if you can't stay inside the lines."

02-02-2010, 01:57 AM	#12
pmpski_1 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Seattle WA Posts: 505	Re: Solid Pacific Northwest classics? Like they say, it's all about the salt. Couple years back I got a chance to spend some time on a big wheat ranch in NE Oregon. When the farm trucks finally broke down to a point where they couldn't fix them anymore they put them in the "boneyard". The ranch has been around for a while and there were vehicles there from the 30s that hadn't rusted away. Most of them were pretty solid, even after being outside for all these years. I grew up in the midwest, so I was pretty blown away... __________________ Curry in a Hurry: SB rebuild for my 71 C20

02-02-2010, 10:05 AM	#13
screamin_c10 I dun gradjiated collij!!! Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: St. Helens Oregon Posts: 1,751	Re: Solid Pacific Northwest classics? SSSHHHH!!! Dont tell anybody....we wanna keep 'em all to ourselves. __________________ Built NOT Bought. Viper Red 1971 LWB C10 355 Vortec W/700R4 4/5 drop AKA Screamin' You are missed! 2006 F150 XLT 5.4L Triton Rollin' on 22s the "F1" 67 C20 PS/AC/327/TH400 we call 'er "Bessie" 67 Malibu PS/ZR1-LS1 Brakes/350 Vortec/700R4 2/2 drop on 18" 338s - Tracy's "Boo" Boosted '67 Cougar EFI 5.0 HO roller motor/T5/8.8 Tracloc/ 4 wheel disks - "Project Panther" 79 Honda Z50 - stretched, cafe'd and hotrodded 125CC Lifan/5spd FEAR THE MONKEY!

02-02-2010, 03:18 PM	#14
FRENCHBLUE72 PROJECT 7DEUCE Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: GRANTS PASS OR Posts: 21,606	Re: Solid Pacific Northwest classics? There are no good classics in oregon or washington they are all rusted beyond repair.. __________________ GO BIG GREEN GO DUCKS MEMBER #6377 72 k-5 daily driver 6'' lift 35'' 350-350-205 slowly getting rust free. Project "7DEUCE" check out my build http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=267665 Tim Powell..R.I.P EastSideLowlife..... R.I.P..

02-02-2010, 04:10 PM	#17
Stocker 20' Daredevil (Ret) Join Date: May 2003 Location: Jefferson State Posts: 13,722	Re: Solid Pacific Northwest classics? Tom McCall would have appreciated the direction this thread is headed __________________ - Mike - 1972 K20 LWB 350/350/205 RIP El Jay

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