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Old 05-29-2010, 03:17 PM   #1
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SM465 shift Knob

I tried to unscrew the shift knob on my SM465 manual trans shifter in my 83 C20 and the knob won't come off, and now it has a long crack in it. There is a nut which appears to be pressed into the knob, which then threads onto the end of the shifter. 2 questions:
1) How should the knob be removed - turned counterclockwise like a normal knob, or unscrewed by the nut partially visible on the bottom of the knob.
2) Where can I get a stock knob?
I am getting ready to replace the carpet, which is why I am messing with this at all. Thanks
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Old 05-29-2010, 05:39 PM   #2
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Re: SM465 shift Knob

That nut should be a jam nut loosen it and the Knob should screw off.
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Old 05-29-2010, 07:35 PM   #3
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Re: SM465 shift Knob

Thanks. I got the knob off - two long cracks on the underside. Does anybody know where I can get a stock black replacement knob, with 1-4 and R markings?
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Old 05-29-2010, 09:12 PM   #4
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Re: SM465 shift Knob

Is it the rubber knob or a hard plastic knob?

I bought a transfer case knob and used it to replace the one on my manual transmission. You might be able to try something similar....

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I wasn't going to do anything with the shift ball....it cleaned up pretty well and was probably fine for a daily driver. But - I had a $40 credit with ClassicParts that I needed to use so I thought I would see what I could do here.

Now, you might suspect that the shift ball for this "odd ball" was probably not available, and you'd be right. However, if you were me, you'd figure that the manual transfer case shift ball was probably identical and would work in this application. So, I ordered one up:





Pretty much exactly the same! After about 30 seconds of work, you can pop the indicator out of the old knob and slip it into the new knob and VIOLA!: new shift ball!



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Ok - so here's the point where you find out they are not "exactly" the same....apparently the transfer case shift lever is "coarse" thread and the transmission shift lever is "fine" thread Nothing that a couple minutes with a 7/16 fine thread tap couldn't fix:



And here we are, back in business:



Total time investment: about 15 minutes; dollar investment of about $3.00 (for shipping).

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Old 05-29-2010, 09:47 PM   #5
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Re: SM465 shift Knob

My shift pattern on the SM465 is different - 1 -2-3-4 and R is right and down.
My knob is still intact, but has two long cracks on the bottom. Classic parts has the correct shift pattern, but a different design - mine is engraved solid one piece plastic.
http://www.classicparts.com/1988-91-...tinfo/29-4652/
I am not sure that the threads will be the same on this one.
For $50+ with shipping I might just live with the one I have until I can find the correct knob.
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Old 05-29-2010, 11:30 PM   #6
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Re: SM465 shift Knob

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My shift pattern on the SM465 is different - 1 -2-3-4 and R is right and down.
My knob is still intact, but has two long cracks on the bottom. Classic parts has the correct shift pattern, but a different design - mine is engraved solid one piece plastic.
http://www.classicparts.com/1988-91-...tinfo/29-4652/
I am not sure that the threads will be the same on this one.
For $50+ with shipping I might just live with the one I have until I can find the correct knob.
that looks like the correct shift knob for a sm465...you have granny low and then what most people would consider 2nd is actually 1st...
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Old 05-29-2010, 10:03 PM   #7
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Re: SM465 shift Knob

can you epoxy the old one?
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Old 05-31-2010, 11:22 AM   #8
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swap meet is where i would look.
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Old 03-25-2015, 04:03 AM   #9
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Re: SM465 shift Knob

what shifter is that I haven't been able to find and aftermarket shifter for an sm465
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Old 03-25-2015, 06:16 AM   #10
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Aftermarket shift knob by Smith and Wesson. And yes, I carry 6 live rounds of 44mag in it. Lol!
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Old 03-25-2015, 10:30 AM   #11
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Re: SM465 shift Knob

Well i got the one off my 83 465 cant stand tiny knobs. when i read this i thought ide hit the mother load! But its Got a bunch small cracks reads L123R.
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Old 03-25-2015, 01:11 PM   #12
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Re: SM465 shift Knob

One consideration in the desert is metal knobs are a bad idea - the high temperatures in the summer mean it is not possible to grip a metal knob. My neighbor had a Dodge 4x4 with a metal aftermarket knob and I had to put a towel over the knob before I could shift it, and it was still too hot.

I have seen the very old style knobs in the junkyards which are not cracked but they are discolored/speckled from age, and the white lettering on the knob is all but gone.
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Old 03-25-2015, 03:51 PM   #13
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One consideration in the desert is metal knobs are a bad idea - the high temperatures in the summer mean it is not possible to grip a metal knob. My neighbor had a Dodge 4x4 with a metal aftermarket knob and I had to put a towel over the knob before I could shift it, and it was still too hot.

I have seen the very old style knobs in the junkyards which are not cracked but they are discolored/speckled from age, and the white lettering on the knob is all but gone.

Luckily for me, I don't live in the desert.
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Old 03-25-2015, 08:45 PM   #14
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Re: SM465 shift Knob

Heh, I had a chrome knob on a car (bought it that way) and it was too ho to touch.
There are aftermarket companies that have or will make a knob/ball with whatever pattern and thread. Google is your friend.
https://www.google.com/search?q=hall...tom+shift+knob
It might be more difficult for early squares and prior w/ bakelite knobs but later should work out.
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Old 03-26-2015, 09:16 PM   #15
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Check your local chevy dealer's parts department. I have gotten many parts for my 86 k10 recently from my local chevy dealer. Heck they even got me a NOS tailgate for my truck for a GREAT price a few months ago. Turns out it was a stepside gate and I needed a fleetside, but I still took it to have it In case.
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