The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network







Register or Log In To remove these advertisements.

Go Back   The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network > 47 - Current classic GM Trucks > The 1967 - 1972 Chevrolet & GMC Pickups Message Board

Web 67-72chevytrucks.com


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 09-29-2010, 12:24 PM   #1
smoked68
Registered User
 
smoked68's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Rock Hill, SC
Posts: 421
Rear brakes locking up...

I have just replaced the brake booster, master cyl, and prop valve on my 68 c-10. It is doing the same as it was before I changed everything. Back brakes will lock and slide, especially on wet pavement. I have discs in front drums in back. New calipers front and new cyls. in back. There is no air in the lines and the kit was bought from early classics with everything needed and for a disc drum set up. Any ideas?? Oh they release and work normal when off the brakes, the backs are just grabbing harder than the frnts.. Thanks, Mike
__________________
1968 chevy shortbed, Dark Shadow Gray
4 bolt 383 Stroker,Weiand Super Charger, disc brakes, 9 inch, 391 gear, 20" Eagle wheels, muncie 4 speed/ Hurst shifter, 4/7 drop, Hedman midlengths, 3 inch exhaust w/ 2 chamber flows. 1966 Mustang with 306 roller, c-4, 9 inch Detroit locker rear. 1965 Fastback Mustang w/347 stroker, top loader 4spd, 9 inch detroit locker. 1966 Mustang coup, 306 roller, c4, 9 inch. 65 Cobra, 427, T6oo, 9inch, of course. First gen Hayabusa, airbox mod and running 2 exhaust cams.. Zoom Zoom Zoom
smoked68 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-29-2010, 12:34 PM   #2
71tahoe
Registered User
 
71tahoe's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Jonesboro, AR
Posts: 916
Re: Rear brakes locking up...

My rears would lock up because of brake fluid on the shoes. If the rear cylinders have leaked, you may need to replace the shoes. Could also be over adjusted.
71tahoe is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-29-2010, 01:36 PM   #3
68gmsee
Active Member
 
68gmsee's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Centrally located between Houston, Austin and Waco. BCS area.
Posts: 7,947
Re: Rear brakes locking up...

Prop valve may the one for all drum brakes but best thing to do is probably to purchase an adjustable prop valve. That way you can adjust them for maximum stopping front and rear.

It's possible they may be grabby but if everything is new and looks good then a prop valve is what you will need. I don't believe overadjusting is causing the problem unless you have them so tight that the wheel won't turn. Adjust them so they barely rub on the drum without preventing it from turning.

forgot: a good article to read. http://www.chevyhiperformance.com/te...lve/index.html

Last edited by 68gmsee; 09-29-2010 at 01:37 PM.
68gmsee is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-29-2010, 01:53 PM   #4
ChevLoRay
Old Skool Club
 
ChevLoRay's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: Benton, AR "The Heart of Arkansas"
Posts: 10,880
Re: Rear brakes locking up...

I think the proportioning valve is the answer, too. I also have ECE disc/drum setup. My rears were locking before the conversion, but it can be because of a leaking axle seal that gets oil on the shoes (I know, but it is what happens) or the wheel cylinder leaking brake fluid onto the lining of the shoe, but that has also been suggested.

If all those parts are new, and you have all new hardware, my thinking is that the Proportioning valve is the right place to start.
__________________
Member Nr. 2770

'96 GMC Sportside; 4.3/SLT - Daily driven....constantly needs washed.

'69 C-10 SWB; 350/TH400 - in limbo

The older I get, the better I was.
ChevLoRay is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-29-2010, 03:44 PM   #5
smoked68
Registered User
 
smoked68's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Rock Hill, SC
Posts: 421
Re: Rear brakes locking up...

Thanks for the info. Yeah Ive looked no grease or brake fluid on the drums... so I guess Ill go with an adj prop valve. Ok so where do I get one??
__________________
1968 chevy shortbed, Dark Shadow Gray
4 bolt 383 Stroker,Weiand Super Charger, disc brakes, 9 inch, 391 gear, 20" Eagle wheels, muncie 4 speed/ Hurst shifter, 4/7 drop, Hedman midlengths, 3 inch exhaust w/ 2 chamber flows. 1966 Mustang with 306 roller, c-4, 9 inch Detroit locker rear. 1965 Fastback Mustang w/347 stroker, top loader 4spd, 9 inch detroit locker. 1966 Mustang coup, 306 roller, c4, 9 inch. 65 Cobra, 427, T6oo, 9inch, of course. First gen Hayabusa, airbox mod and running 2 exhaust cams.. Zoom Zoom Zoom
smoked68 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-29-2010, 05:38 PM   #6
68gmsee
Active Member
 
68gmsee's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Centrally located between Houston, Austin and Waco. BCS area.
Posts: 7,947
Re: Rear brakes locking up...

Jegs is a good start but there are others. Probably need to do a search unless someone knows of another place to get one.

Be sure and look through this article.

http://www.chevyhiperformance.com/te...lve/index.html"]http://www.chevyhiperformance.com/te...lve/index.html[/URL]

Last edited by 68gmsee; 09-29-2010 at 05:43 PM.
68gmsee is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-15-2010, 04:32 AM   #7
LostMy65
But Found Her 25yrs Later!
 
LostMy65's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Oregon City, Oregon
Posts: 10,530
Re: Rear brakes locking up...

Any recommendation on which adjustable proportioning valve to buy?
baer, etc.

There is quite a selection and prices to choose from:
http://www.jegs.com/webapp/wcs/store...+proportioning
http://www.summitracing.com/search/?...justable&dds=1
__________________
I lost my 65 - Found it 25 years later:
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=426650

66 C20 Service Truck:
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=428035

Last edited by LostMy65; 12-15-2010 at 04:41 AM.
LostMy65 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-15-2010, 07:39 AM   #8
cdowns
Senior Member
 
cdowns's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: daytonabeach
Posts: 22,956
Re: Rear brakes locking up...

you might have proper proportioning valve but hooked up backwards???
__________________
71c-10 350/2004r/4:11 lowered3/4 longbed/dead by hurricane

MEANING OF DEATH::::: SOMEBODY ELSE GETS YOUR STUFF

DONT BELIEVE EVERYTHING YOU THINK

TAKE MY ADVISE;I DON'T USE IT ANYWAY
cdowns is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-04-2011, 03:33 PM   #9
cardreams
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: kingston ont Canada
Posts: 443
Re: Rear brakes locking up...

have same problem on my truck 1970 power brakes and drums all around how do u know if the proportioning valve is hooked up backwards????
cardreams is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-04-2011, 05:31 PM   #10
cdowns
Senior Member
 
cdowns's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: daytonabeach
Posts: 22,956
Re: Rear brakes locking up...

Quote:
Originally Posted by cardreams View Post
have same problem on my truck 1970 power brakes and drums all around how do u know if the proportioning valve is hooked up backwards????
drum brake systems do not have a proportioning valve// they have a distribution block
__________________
71c-10 350/2004r/4:11 lowered3/4 longbed/dead by hurricane

MEANING OF DEATH::::: SOMEBODY ELSE GETS YOUR STUFF

DONT BELIEVE EVERYTHING YOU THINK

TAKE MY ADVISE;I DON'T USE IT ANYWAY
cdowns is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-04-2011, 10:50 PM   #11
cardreams
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: kingston ont Canada
Posts: 443
Re: Rear brakes locking up...

Quote:
Originally Posted by cdowns View Post
drum brake systems do not have a proportioning valve// they have a distribution block



ok can u but them on backwards????
cardreams is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-05-2011, 02:03 AM   #12
fastwillie 696969
~Rest In Peace~
 
fastwillie 696969's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: CALIFORNIA NOR CAL
Posts: 9,707
Re: Rear brakes locking up...

got pics of the rear brakes and drums ? and when you did the rear brakes did you use any lube on the backin plates? how did you adjust the drums by turning by hand or measure the drums and adjust the brakes.
i would like to see the brakes ,how about the e brake cable rusty stickin >> ?
__________________
is it fast ? it has a lighting bolt donut?


B___H please, I can remove 90% of your so called "beauty" with a kleenex
fastwillie 696969 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-05-2011, 09:38 AM   #13
68gmsee
Active Member
 
68gmsee's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Centrally located between Houston, Austin and Waco. BCS area.
Posts: 7,947
Re: Rear brakes locking up...

Be aware that someone may have added power brakes from a newer truck with disk brakes so it is possible to have a prop valve. I did that on my 69 with all drums and it worked fine.
68gmsee is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 11:09 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Copyright 1997-2022 67-72chevytrucks.com