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01-01-2011, 09:55 PM | #1 |
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ratio gear problems
Hi, i have chevy pick up 69 c10, with motor 350, and transmission 700r4 (originally has manual transmission), the gear ratio is 3.071, but the max. speed is 55 MPH at 3200 RPM with 4 th transmission shift and waste a lot fuel, im thinking the problem is the gear ratio and i want to chage for a chevy 1985 gear ratio 2.56 (43-14),
This modification improve the speed in the road? what do tou think? thank you for your help. regards. |
01-01-2011, 10:15 PM | #2 |
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Re: ratio gear problems
What size of rear tire are you running?
I went back and ran the numbers through this site http://www.csgnetwork.com/multirpmcalc.html and your numbers don't jive Unless you have extremely small tires or an extremely low rear end ratio that rpm in .70 od is going to have you way up over 100 mph. My calculations show that with 3.071 gears and a 27 inch tall tire that truck would be dong 120 mph at 3200 rpm with the 700 r4 in 4th or od. At least in theory or on paper. Most of these trucks only get between 10 and 16 mpg no matter what you try to do with them with the stock carburetored engines. Last edited by mr48chev; 01-01-2011 at 11:50 PM. |
01-02-2011, 07:59 AM | #3 |
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Re: ratio gear problems
something is way wrong.
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01-02-2011, 12:21 PM | #4 |
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Re: ratio gear problems
the wheels are 27 inch. i do not, but im very confuse, i do not think, that problem was the transmission, because i had 350 with 3rd. shift transmission in the same truck and was the same problem the truck feels as if need another shift. and i take the desition to change the transmission for a 700r4 and do not improve nothing. what gear ratio uses this truck originally c10 1969 manual transmission? what happening?
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01-02-2011, 12:23 PM | #5 |
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Re: ratio gear problems
My top speed in my C20 is 55mph...but I have 4.57 in the rear end...
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01-02-2011, 12:33 PM | #6 |
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Re: ratio gear problems
My '71 runs about 2250 rpms when motoring down the road at 55, it has an old truck 4 speed with 3.73 gears and 31 inch rear tires.
So I figure something is amiss in your situation.
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01-02-2011, 01:16 PM | #7 |
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Re: ratio gear problems
and if i change the rear differential gears for a chevy 1985 2.56 gear ratio, do you think improve the speed?
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01-02-2011, 02:02 PM | #8 |
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Re: ratio gear problems
I agree with the rear end ratio probably being the problem. Check it carefully and if the truck used to be a six in some previous life then your gearing could be off.
I had a manual trans six on my 69 and when I swapped a 350 with th350 tranny in, it did the same. It would pull stumps but the road driving was outrageous. To solve the problem I took the rear end off a v8 truck with 3.08 axle and it was much better highway driving. |
01-02-2011, 07:19 PM | #9 | |
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01-02-2011, 02:44 PM | #10 |
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Re: ratio gear problems
My truck is a C20 with a 4.56 rear end and bigger tires(not sure how big)and i walked it well over 90 the day i got it and was driving it home my dad was driving the prius and was wondering what the hell i was doing lol.
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01-02-2011, 04:08 PM | #11 |
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Re: ratio gear problems
a 3.07 gear with no overdrive will go well over 100 MPH. If memory serves, 100 MPH comes in at just over 3000 RPM, PLENTY left over before redline.
If you had a 3 speed automatic, and converted to a 4 speed automatic, and your cruise RPMs are the same, then you are not going into overdrive. Once you do get it working right, you'll probabky find that the RPMs are too low and you'll be getting poor MPG. |
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01-02-2011, 08:42 PM | #13 |
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Re: ratio gear problems
combination of more then one problem? A rear ratio that isn't what its supposed to be...and an OD thats hangin in 3rd?
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