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Old 01-15-2011, 12:46 AM   #1
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Engine Build

Ok so this is my first engine build and I have a 327 from a 64 impala I think. It has the lower end done...not completely sure on what crank pistons or anything.
but for the top end i was planning on doing

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/CMB-08-0034/
I don't know what a good cheaper carb i should use so please help with that.

is this going to work for the carb?
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/HLY-0-80555C/

Engine dress up
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/PRO-141-758/

I was thinking this disturber but im not sure about it, as far as advances etc.
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/SUM-850001R/

cheap headers
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/SUM-G9006/

Water pump
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/TFF-1449NA/

Starter
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/TFF-3510A/

Alternator
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/TFF-7935ABULL/

so other than that i dont know the rest yet...so I know I missed alot so ask and please give advice and tell me if these will work and what else I need.

can I use my old fan? do I need to buy pulleys? flexplate? will my old 4 speed mount up (on an inline 6 now)

ok so any questions just ask........im planning on doing this next weekend or just after if anyone is around eugene/albany area of oregon

thank you all in advance
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Old 01-15-2011, 01:22 AM   #2
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Re: Engine Build

if you get the cheaper painted headers, like me, make sure and repaint them with the 2,000 degree paint BEFORE you put them on...
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Old 01-15-2011, 02:53 AM   #3
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if you get the cheaper painted headers, like me, make sure and repaint them with the 2,000 degree paint before you put them on...
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Old 01-15-2011, 03:23 AM   #4
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if you get the cheaper painted headers, like me, make sure and repaint them with the 2,000 degree paint BEFORE you put them on...
ok thank you for that I wouldn't have thought about that
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Old 01-15-2011, 05:32 AM   #5
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so what kind of Rockers do I need? and do I need special kinds of push rods? I want to stay pretty cheap just so you all know
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Old 01-15-2011, 11:50 AM   #6
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i purchased an edel intake and carb. price was under 300 for carb. i think the intake was about 100 bucks. install was easy. new crate engine fired right up!

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/EDL-1406/
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Old 01-15-2011, 12:01 PM   #7
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you have to get self aligning rocker arms for the Vortecs! push rods are the same as a stock small block. you might be able to get a good set off a 96-00 chevy/gmc truck at a junk yard for pretty cheap on the rockers
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Old 01-15-2011, 02:11 PM   #8
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you have to get self aligning rocker arms for the Vortecs! push rods are the same as a stock small block. you might be able to get a good set off a 96-00 chevy/gmc truck at a junk yard for pretty cheap on the rockers
THANK YOU!!! that is exactly the information I am looking to get!
so will these work good?

http://www.summitracing.com/parts.aspx?sku=CCA-1417-16
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Old 01-15-2011, 02:18 PM   #9
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So I was also looking at some comp cams for some increased power and I love the rough idle sound and on jegs they said that the biggest I could go without changing anything is this one
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/CCA-CL12-211-2/

but on the summit website says this.
"Designed for hot street/strip cars, these COMP Cams Magnum series cam and lifter kits require a higher compression ratio, rear-end gear ratio, and stall torque converter than stock."

I dont know how to check my compression ratio or exatcly what I should be trying to get. IM NOT BUILDING a race truck or anything like that. I just want to have some fun with it when I want. I was reading this thread below and It got me a little spooked about compression ratio, should I be worried about what it is talking about?

http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=440319
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Old 01-15-2011, 02:21 PM   #10
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also are these pushrods going to work ok?

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/CCA-7812-16/?rtype=10
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oh also I dont remember the thread but what do I need to put on my head studs? (i know locktite is good) but It was because its in contact with the water
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I went with a comp cams 260 on my 327 with the vortec heads. When I got my Vortecs I do believe I read that they have lift limitations with the stock springs. You dont want the springs binding @ full lift. You can also get your rockers off Ebay pretty cheap.
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From what I've read the problem is that when you go over the recomended lift the spring retainer smashes the valve seal, causing oil leakage/burning. Here is a thread that a guy on here wrote a month or two ago. Go towards the end and you can read about the clearance problems he had and how he solved it.

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Re: Engine Build

Forgot to mention, I've also read that the vortecs don't flow anymore past .480, so a bigger cam doesn't net you any extra HP. I had a thread going a while back and some guys told me my cam is about the biggest you would want to go, it's a comp cams xe268h. Here is a video of how mine idles/runs, for the rest of my specs look in my signature.

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Old 01-16-2011, 03:02 PM   #15
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I like the sound of your idle! so the cam I am looking at is a little less lift than your so it should be fine right? so i forgot do i need to change anything for it to work?
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