The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network







Register or Log In To remove these advertisements.

Go Back   The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network > 47 - Current classic GM Trucks > The 1967 - 1972 Chevrolet & GMC Pickups Message Board

Web 67-72chevytrucks.com


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 07-24-2011, 02:18 AM   #1
Pat_Opsahl
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Livermore CA
Posts: 5
1967 6 cylinder power steering conversion

I have a 1967 C10, 292ci 6 cylinder with manual steering and want to convert to power steering. There is a lot of ebayer's selling brackets and partial kits to do this but I have a few questions.
My truck has the 292 cubic inch motor with an air pump mounted on the drivers side above the alternator. The 6 cylinder trucks from the factory, where was the power steering pump mounted? Is there anybody out there with the setup that could send me some pictures of it?
Does the set up require the power cylinder on the steering arm or do you just connect the lines from pump to steering gear?

Thanks,
Patrick
Pat_Opsahl is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-24-2011, 12:03 PM   #2
PanelDeland
I am a Referee of life.
 
PanelDeland's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: Greensboro N.C.
Posts: 13,992
Re: 1967 6 cylinder power steering conversion

I can't answer on the brackets.I can tell you that the 67 factory PS was ram assist type.The 67 frame also does not have an indention for the 68 up PS box.You will need to heat and dimple the frame to get it to fit and lay flat against the frame.Some claim that spacers can be used but others claim this puts the PS box off center and causes squirrelly steering feel.
The later PS boxes bolt up once the frame is relieved and work well from all I can determine.I'm gathering parts for the swap now(though mine is a 250).
You may find more info in the "Truck FAQ's" forum.Use Krue's index to help you find the thread.
__________________
The 47-present Chevrolet and GMC Truck Message Board Network,it's owners,moderators,members,and associates of any type should not be held responsible for my opinion.
You can't fix stupid,not even with duct tape.
"My appearance is due to the fact that "GOD" does punish you for having too much fun!"
Barrett-Jackson has perfected alchemy,they make rust into gold!
"You can lead a horse to water but you can't saddle a duck"
"Cleverly disguised as a 'Responsible Adult'
"Sometimes your Knight in shining armor is just a retard in tinfoil"
PanelDeland is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-24-2011, 09:31 PM   #3
68 IRON
Registered User
 
68 IRON's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Olympia, WA
Posts: 736
Re: 1967 6 cylinder power steering conversion

Try using the search function at the top of the page. You can search the web which is the default or click the button for your search to remain on the sight. Use keywords like 292 Power steering (or ps) brackets conversion and your year. You'll find a lot and then some.....its helped me do my HEI and get parts for this very same conversion (mines a 68). Good luck....now get searchin'!
68 IRON is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-24-2011, 09:41 PM   #4
Mxracer202
Registered User
 
Mxracer202's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: RC, South Dakota.
Posts: 164
Re: 1967 6 cylinder power steering conversion

Its a pretty common thing around here. use the search and youll most likely find tons of info. Im about to do the same PS set up too. Hopefully
__________________
58 Jeep willys pickup
67 K10 4x4- soon to be trail truck

TROUBLE MAKER RACING

"If you can't stand BEHIND our troops, please stand in FRONT of them."
Mxracer202 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-24-2011, 09:43 PM   #5
71swb4x4
Senior Member
 
71swb4x4's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Brookings, SD
Posts: 10,497
Re: 1967 6 cylinder power steering conversion

Here are a couple pics of my 67 with a 292. I added hydroboost so the pump is a hair different on the outlet but nothing significant.
What pictures do you want?
Attached Images
  
__________________
Some people are like slinkies, they aren't good for anything, but you can't help but smile when you see one tumble down the stairs.
71swb4x4 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-24-2011, 09:52 PM   #6
Mxracer202
Registered User
 
Mxracer202's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: RC, South Dakota.
Posts: 164
Re: 1967 6 cylinder power steering conversion

Did you Dimple the frame or spacers?
__________________
58 Jeep willys pickup
67 K10 4x4- soon to be trail truck

TROUBLE MAKER RACING

"If you can't stand BEHIND our troops, please stand in FRONT of them."
Mxracer202 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-25-2011, 09:07 AM   #7
71swb4x4
Senior Member
 
71swb4x4's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Brookings, SD
Posts: 10,497
Re: 1967 6 cylinder power steering conversion

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mxracer202 View Post
Did you Dimple the frame or spacers?
One washer on each space was enough. If I did it again I would dimple the frame.
__________________
Some people are like slinkies, they aren't good for anything, but you can't help but smile when you see one tumble down the stairs.
71swb4x4 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-25-2011, 07:36 PM   #8
Pat_Opsahl
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Livermore CA
Posts: 5
Re: 1967 6 cylinder power steering conversion

Thanks for all the replies/information. I thought it would be nice to try and keep it as original as possible but, power steering wins out over the air pump - easily!
Mine is a little different since it has the factory air pump. Maybe I can use the crank and water pump pulleys that are for the air pump?
Any other differences with the 292ci?
The dimpling looks to be a fairly small amount, I don't have a torch to heat and reform - any other methods?
71swb4x4, thanks for the pictures, I would like to see your mounting brackets, close ups if you can. Are you using a power cylinder?
Attached are pictures of the air pump location.
Attached Images
   
Pat_Opsahl is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-25-2011, 07:43 PM   #9
71swb4x4
Senior Member
 
71swb4x4's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Brookings, SD
Posts: 10,497
Re: 1967 6 cylinder power steering conversion

Pat, the dimpling is for the power steering box, so I am using the 1968 and up style power steering pump with power steering box. I am not using the ram-style power steering from 1967 and earlier.
This is on my C30, and I went with hydroboost brakes which power the brakes off the power steering system.
I can get more pictures if you want them.
__________________
Some people are like slinkies, they aren't good for anything, but you can't help but smile when you see one tumble down the stairs.
71swb4x4 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-26-2011, 12:00 AM   #10
Mxracer202
Registered User
 
Mxracer202's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: RC, South Dakota.
Posts: 164
Re: 1967 6 cylinder power steering conversion

Quote:
Originally Posted by 71swb4x4 View Post
Pat, the dimpling is for the power steering box, so I am using the 1968 and up style power steering pump with power steering box. I am not using the ram-style power steering from 1967 and earlier.
This is on my C30, and I went with hydroboost brakes which power the brakes off the power steering system.
I can get more pictures if you want them.
Will you post those pics? hopefully makin a trip to the junk yard and gotta know what to look for
__________________
58 Jeep willys pickup
67 K10 4x4- soon to be trail truck

TROUBLE MAKER RACING

"If you can't stand BEHIND our troops, please stand in FRONT of them."
Mxracer202 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-26-2011, 08:35 PM   #11
68 IRON
Registered User
 
68 IRON's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Olympia, WA
Posts: 736
Re: 1967 6 cylinder power steering conversion

I got mine from a 79 Nova...the brackets for the pump and alt.
Name:  I6 power steering 011.jpg
Views: 5161
Size:  62.6 KB
Pulleys from the water pump
Name:  I6 power steering 008.jpg
Views: 2983
Size:  53.4 KB
Harmonic balancer and 3rd pulley (NAPA had one...but 90 bucks, I'll try this)
Name:  I6 power steering 009.jpg
Views: 3241
Size:  63.2 KB
And the timing gear cover....timing marks are on the passenger side (it "matches the balancer) but you could re-mark the balacer for timing marks if you want.
Name:  I6 power steering 012.jpg
Views: 2934
Size:  61.2 KB
And for the steering gear I pulled one from a 72 GMC....But you can pull one from as late as 81?...I think with pitman arm.
68 IRON is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-26-2011, 09:20 PM   #12
68 IRON
Registered User
 
68 IRON's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Olympia, WA
Posts: 736
Re: 1967 6 cylinder power steering conversion

Ooooops....you probably already have the brackets, huh? But someone must have pics of before and after for dimpling (banging) the frame.
68 IRON is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-25-2011, 08:14 PM   #13
19673ontree
CAN'T FIX NOTHIN
 
19673ontree's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: SOUTHRUST VIRGINIA !!!
Posts: 2,112
Re: 1967 6 cylinder power steering conversion

I put spacers on my gear box , and the power steering brackets on mine are the same as pictured above
__________________
1967 C10 Shortbed Fleetside Small back glass
6 cyl 3spd on the tree 3.08 gears
underdash AC
19673ontree is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-26-2011, 10:13 PM   #14
71swb4x4
Senior Member
 
71swb4x4's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Brookings, SD
Posts: 10,497
Re: 1967 6 cylinder power steering conversion

68 IRON, those brackets will not work with the older 292 that was in these trucks. They interfere with the bypass hose.

Mxracer, I can post more pictures tomorrow. Storms passing through right now. It's nothing special at all, its a standard power steering box that was found on trucks from 1968 and up, probably up to 1987 and maybe even later. Unless you are referring to the whole hyrdoboost setup, if standard power steering is what you want the hardest part to find is the 292 power steering brackets. The rest is a dime a dozen.
__________________
Some people are like slinkies, they aren't good for anything, but you can't help but smile when you see one tumble down the stairs.
71swb4x4 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-27-2011, 10:15 AM   #15
68 IRON
Registered User
 
68 IRON's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Olympia, WA
Posts: 736
Re: 1967 6 cylinder power steering conversion

Yep, you're right. Forgot he was dealing with a 292 also. The brackets he needs would a little tougher to find, huh? At any rate, make sure you have everything from the one engine you get your brackets and pulleys from. It will lessen headache factor.
68 IRON is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 05:19 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Copyright 1997-2022 67-72chevytrucks.com