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Old 09-13-2011, 04:42 PM   #1
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Question A/C work then Not...?

Ok got 134-a system in the 71. Driving it to work everyday it will run fine. Blows out 40 degree air with passenger side vent open. The cowl vacum vent is gone I blocked it off.
Drive to NC 2hrs and about half way up it starts heating up. It's like it's freezing up. Noticed this morning coming home it was down to almost 30 degree's. Then it started heating up again.





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Old 09-13-2011, 05:30 PM   #2
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Re: A/C work then Not...?

Your probably correct. The expansion valve is probably freezing up due to moisture. If you have access to the proper tools, I would recover the refrigerant and pull a vacuum on the system for about 30 minutes and then recharge it. if that doesn't do the job then you will probably have to draw down the system, replace the dryer and pull another vaccum for about 15 minutes, then recharge. Sometimes it just easier to change the dryer upfront to save yourself time.
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Old 09-13-2011, 05:53 PM   #3
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Did some checking. Pressures are good. It's getting good and cold and it's reading 28PSI. I don't think it's cycling on and off like it should and it's freezing it's self up. I ran it for almost 10 minutes in the garage and it never cycled. It just kept running.
Anybody know how to adjust the cycle switch on the acumalator?
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After talking to tech support at Air Lift I have found out that the kit I need is 60811. Per the measurements I gave them. Ride height of truck inside spring and inside diameter of springs.
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Old 09-13-2011, 08:25 PM   #4
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I ordered a new switch. Will pick it up in the morning and see what it does.
Mine I have now has the screw in it to adjust. I hope the new one does to.



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It sucks not being able to hear!

LWB trucks rule, if you don't think so measure your SWB!
After talking to tech support at Air Lift I have found out that the kit I need is 60811. Per the measurements I gave them. Ride height of truck inside spring and inside diameter of springs.
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Old 09-13-2011, 08:43 PM   #5
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Old 09-13-2011, 08:46 PM   #6
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Re: A/C work then Not...?

I recently went through this on my 2000. It would take around an hour or so on the highway before I noticed it was warming up. Airflow through the vents dropped off as well.
New cycling switch did the trick on mine. I found one online for $27 but local parts store clipped me for about $45. I was robbed but figured the online purchase with shipping and handling would come in close to that plus I would have to wait for it.
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Old 09-13-2011, 09:20 PM   #7
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Re: A/C work then Not...?

What year model dryer are you using...I noticed you're running a late model compressor also. Are you using the original condenser and evaporator?

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Old 09-14-2011, 06:25 PM   #8
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Re: A/C work then Not...?

Are you running an expansion valve or orifice tube? The 89 chevy had the oriface. You would normally use a accumulator, like you have, with an oriface and a filter drier with the expansion valve.

With the expansion valve system the compressor would run constantly with the valve regulating the refrigerant. With an oriface system the oriface size doesn't change, the pressure switch regulates the flow by cycling out the comp.

I cannot see your liquid line in the pics, so I can't tell if the oriface is there. On the 89 I believe it was behind the signal light, so you would have had to add one at the evap.

That said, your switch should correct the freezing up problem. Yes, some are adjustable but they need to be adjusted correctly. Cycling too often it will not cool at higher speeds and not cycling enough will cause a freeze up. Along with other problems.

Hope this helps somewhat.
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Are you running an expansion valve or orifice tube? The 89 chevy had the oriface. You would normally use a accumulator, like you have, with an oriface and a filter drier with the expansion valve.

With the expansion valve system the compressor would run constantly with the valve regulating the refrigerant. With an oriface system the oriface size doesn't change, the pressure switch regulates the flow by cycling out the comp.

I cannot see your liquid line in the pics, so I can't tell if the oriface is there. On the 89 I believe it was behind the signal light, so you would have had to add one at the evap.

That said, your switch should correct the freezing up problem. Yes, some are adjustable but they need to be adjusted correctly. Cycling too often it will not cool at higher speeds and not cycling enough will cause a freeze up. Along with other problems.

Hope this helps somewhat.
Yes I have the oriface inline with the system. It's in the bottom line. I drove it a little ways about 10 miles round trip and it worked as it always did. It cycled on/off the whole time. I even let it idle as I dumped the trash and it stayed right at 40 degree. It was 91 by the temperature in the mirror. I guess next long trip will tell.
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Get out and drive the truck this summer and have some fun!
It sucks not being able to hear!

LWB trucks rule, if you don't think so measure your SWB!
After talking to tech support at Air Lift I have found out that the kit I need is 60811. Per the measurements I gave them. Ride height of truck inside spring and inside diameter of springs.
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Old 09-14-2011, 11:54 PM   #10
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Re: A/C work then Not...?

Replace your pressure switch and see what happenes. Don't know how much you know about A/C systems. The 89 took R12. you said that you are using R134. If you are going by the label on the R12 system you may be over charged. When changing from R12 to R134 you only use 80% as much R134 as R12. Example 1 Lb is 16 oz, = 1lb of R12(16 oz) = 12.8 oz of R134. That could also cause your problem. The switch works off of pressure and R134 works at higher pressure than R12, thus not cycling making it freeze up.

There are still a lot of other things, but knowing what you are running (oriface) the switch is your most likely problem.
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Old 09-15-2011, 04:17 AM   #11
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Question Re: A/C work then Not...?

The AC has worked great for about 4 years now. I just have noticed this problem in the last couple of weeks. System is at right charge according to my gauges. pressures are all good.

I'm wondering if the screw moved on me some how over the past few years?
It seems to be running fine again now though. It maybe awhile before I go on another long trip but I'll keep a eye out on it.
Thanks for everones input on this.
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It sucks not being able to hear!

LWB trucks rule, if you don't think so measure your SWB!
After talking to tech support at Air Lift I have found out that the kit I need is 60811. Per the measurements I gave them. Ride height of truck inside spring and inside diameter of springs.
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