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02-14-2014, 02:47 PM
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Running R12 in a Sanden?
Hey guys...gonna be installing my ls3 soon so it will obviously have LS accessory drive with a Sanden style compressor. My 72 C10 currently has factory air that works great running R12 with the stock A6 compressor.
My question is, assuming I buy a Sanden unit already filled with R12 compatible oil and R12 charge ports, can I just get custom lines made and plumb the new compressor into my existing components, and continue running it as an R12 system? I figured this would be the cheapest/easiest integration into the AC system already there. Didn't want to go 134 because I'd like to keep the stock condenser, and I'm told 134 doesn't work too well unless you upgrade to a parallel flow unit. |
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02-14-2014, 04:21 PM
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Re: Running R12 in a Sanden?
Only problem i see is finding someone that can pull the r12 out and save it till you done r12 here is going for 96 dollars a pound makes 134a swap over look really nice.
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02-14-2014, 04:49 PM
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Re: Running R12 in a Sanden?
I did ac work for 30 years There is a product called freeze 12 Its a r12 substitute I used it for years instead of R12 performs the same If your sanden is for 134 change oil in compressor to old style oil
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02-14-2014, 06:57 PM
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Re: Running R12 in a Sanden?
I have some lb's !!!!!!!!
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02-14-2014, 07:52 PM
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Re: Running R12 in a Sanden?
I sold a container of R12 for $475 when they banned it the first time here.
Two years later they said it was okay to sell hotshots, then banned them... then came out with the replacements, and said it was ok again....go figure.
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02-14-2014, 08:22 PM
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Re: Running R12 in a Sanden?
Looks like you can still buy R12 on eBay but it ain't cheap! Regardless you have to sign an affidavit saying you are a reseller, authorized installer, or will have an authorized installer charge/evacuate the system you are working on before they'll sell it to ya. Suuuuure!
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02-14-2014, 10:21 PM
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Re: Running R12 in a Sanden?
The systemm will work but for the cost effictiveness I think your better off going 134-A now and be done with it. I can't tell any differance in performance of it compared to R12. Mine will blow 38-40 degree's sitting still.
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02-14-2014, 10:54 PM
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Re: Running R12 in a Sanden?
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02-14-2014, 11:07 PM
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Re: Running R12 in a Sanden?
But to be sure, that is with the upgraded parallel flow condenser, right?
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02-15-2014, 09:14 AM
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Re: Running R12 in a Sanden?
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02-14-2014, 11:14 PM
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Re: Running R12 in a Sanden?
I still have the stock 1978 condenser and same evap. and R134 colder than the R12, I changed it 4 years ago, like it better
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02-14-2014, 11:42 PM
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Re: Running R12 in a Sanden?
Interesting! I may give the 134 a shot.
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02-16-2014, 12:33 AM
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Re: Running R12 in a Sanden?
damn, lived in the PNW all my life
never even owned an A/C car its all a buncha greek to me |
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02-16-2014, 12:49 AM
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Re: Running R12 in a Sanden?
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. Cause I'd love to delete the whole mess altogether and smooth the passenger side of my firewall!
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02-16-2014, 12:51 AM
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Re: Running R12 in a Sanden?
you're welcome to join us. just make sure your wipers are sorted and your windows dont leak
typically 180 days/year with precipitation this side of the cascades |
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02-16-2014, 12:53 AM
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