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02-27-2014, 12:00 PM | #1 |
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How many of you guys are running 700r4's
I am diving in to this project of getting a 700r4. I know allot of people have done this but I can't find the info I am looking for. Who did you use for the trans build local or online, bowtietrans? TCI? Ex......? What stall are you guys running? TV kits? What are u doing for lock up? Ex.... What price range am I looking at or can expect?
Info on my truck 72 c10 swb. 383 stroker healthy with lumpy cam. Built th350 but looking for mor of a cruiser, hence the 700r4 swap. PLEASE HELP I AM GETTING MIXED INFO ON THIS SWAP. THANK YOU. PS: the search icon did not provide much info. |
02-27-2014, 12:10 PM | #2 |
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Re: How many of you guys are running 700r4's
I ordered mine from Bowtie Overdrives about 11 years ago...no problems so far...knocking on wood.
I ordered everything I needed from them (except cross member) and everything went together well. Couldn't say about the price now...but I'm sure its on their site.
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02-27-2014, 12:21 PM | #3 |
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Re: How many of you guys are running 700r4's
replaced my th350 with a 700r4 about a month ago and its the best thing I have done. It really helped me because I drive my truck almost every day and do a lot of highway driving. I bought my lockup kit from TCI and had to have my driveshaft shortened 3". You will also need a corrector bracket kit for your TV cable hook up on your carb. I got mine for about $17 from summit. I did the swap myself in my garage and everything went pretty smooth. Just make sure you get the TV cable set up right.
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02-27-2014, 12:22 PM | #4 |
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Re: How many of you guys are running 700r4's
I have bought 2 700R4's from Phoenix transmission. Liked them a lot. I had them behind a ZZ4 crate engine with a 2200 stall. If I ever need another tranny I will buy from them for sure
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02-28-2014, 12:05 AM | #5 |
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Re: How many of you guys are running 700r4's
I used Phoenix also,had them do the install also.Very pleased with their work.Very knowledgeable staff.Check out their web site,they arwe also in all the hot rod mags.
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02-27-2014, 12:23 PM | #6 |
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Re: How many of you guys are running 700r4's
I know there are certain years you do not want if you look for a used one. I found mine in a junkyard, I cannot remember the good years but it was one of them. It is the 700R4 not the 700R4E which is the electronic version. I put Lokar linkage on it and hooked the lock-up to a switch (Lighted Button) on my dash. The speed cable doesn't connect without a ridiculously priced converter so I bought a GPS speedo. Mine shift perfectly. Makes me wonder why they ever needed a computer later.
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02-27-2014, 12:45 PM | #7 |
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Re: How many of you guys are running 700r4's
I put a 700 R4 in my 84 GMC W/O a lockup converter. I have a 2300 stall, to match my cam and keep the truck from pushing itself through a stop light when sitting at one. I originally purchased mine from Premier Perfomance transmissions---JET bought them out several years ago. However I since have had my local tranny guy upgrade it more and it is a lot more tranny than it was from Premier.
The RPM change was a very noticeable and with a 3.73 geared rear end and a 383 stroker engine, I can pull down a steady 15 MPG on the hghway at 75+ MPH.
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02-27-2014, 01:22 PM | #8 |
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Re: How many of you guys are running 700r4's
I had mine built by a local shop in '97 for around $1100 with converter and adaptor plate to Olds. It has stood up very well. I have 4.11 tail gears and run about 2200 R.P.M. at 65 mph. I have an 1800 R.P.M. stall with lockup.
As you have a lumpier cam than I, you'll probably want a 2500 R.P.M. stall or so. Here is what I am using for lock up.
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02-27-2014, 01:48 PM | #9 |
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Re: How many of you guys are running 700r4's
I got mine in '98 out of a low-mileage '91 Corvette. Changed the tail housing and good to go.
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02-27-2014, 03:01 PM | #10 |
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Re: How many of you guys are running 700r4's
me 4 one
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02-27-2014, 04:33 PM | #11 |
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Re: How many of you guys are running 700r4's
3:55 - 3:73 rear gears best for 700R4. other gears will work depending on how tall of rear tire used. project33.com has a good calculator.
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02-27-2014, 05:12 PM | #12 |
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Re: How many of you guys are running 700r4's
Go to BowtieOverdrives.com. They have everything you need, will ship right to your door. Comes with great instructions and if you call them the will pick up the phone to help. First class place. Project "black Betty" is going to be using one
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02-27-2014, 07:13 PM | #13 |
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Re: How many of you guys are running 700r4's
so what is a used 700r4 worth, I found that was rebuilt last year
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02-27-2014, 09:26 PM | #14 |
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Re: How many of you guys are running 700r4's
Just fininshed this swap.
Was running a t350. The 700r4 sits behind a new ZZ4. Drive shaft shortenend about 3". Used the existing crossmember. Running a TV cable from a 93 Camaro. Rear ration 3.73 Purchased a Certified 700R4 from my local Buick dealer. It was from a 91 Corvette with a 2200rpm stall. Cost $1500. You can click on my build thread below for more info.
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02-27-2014, 09:46 PM | #15 |
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Re: How many of you guys are running 700r4's
I went with the 200-4R for mine. No driveshaft work to install it, the holes are in the correct place to slide the crossmember back, and the local transmission builder said they are better than the 700R4 in many ways.
Found an article supporting it, though it's a few years old. http://www.carcraft.com/techarticles...mission_build/ I've had the rebuilt/upgraded 200 in my truck for a year now with the 350, and no troubles at all. Everything I have read says it will handle the 402 big I'm going to install next month with ease.
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02-28-2014, 01:09 AM | #16 |
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Re: How many of you guys are running 700r4's
See the 700r4 installed in my K20 on the build thread linked in my signature below. I went with one from BTO - the owner had a 72 K20 and knew exactly what I needed for the swap.
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02-28-2014, 09:54 AM | #17 |
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Re: How many of you guys are running 700r4's
When you look to buy a used 700r4, look at the cooler line fitting area. You want one that has a curved line in the area. It looks like a rainbow. I believe it's the 88-93 yrs. those are the better yrs. I'll post up a photo of what I'm talking about once I get off work. Also, check out my build thread, about half way through, you'll see what upgrades you want. "Beast Sunshell", etc.
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02-28-2014, 10:00 AM | #18 |
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02-28-2014, 03:17 PM | #19 |
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Re: How many of you guys are running 700r4's
Great Post. Getting ready to do the same swap. Great info here.
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03-02-2014, 04:01 AM | #20 |
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Re: How many of you guys are running 700r4's
Are you guys using a switch for the lock up converter? Let us know what u are using and what works best.
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03-02-2014, 08:59 AM | #21 |
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Re: How many of you guys are running 700r4's
I forgot to post up that photo for you. You want the 87-93 yrs, they have the auxiliary valve body. You can see the curved line cast into the casing that runs through the top fluid cooler fitting, that's the quickest way to see you have the right yr.
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Re: How many of you guys are running 700r4's
If you go the junkyard route, you can get a dipstick tube for a '90s Astro van to bring it out better. Used that in my 66 with a 700R4 and it cleared the heater box very well
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Re: How many of you guys are running 700r4's
Been wanting to do this for a long time. 3 on the Tree is cool but this swap would def be nice.
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Re: How many of you guys are running 700r4's
I received a quote from Bowtie Overdrives recently, $1983.05 delivered to my house in Florida. Pricey, but it does include the converter (1800), TV system, lock up kit, shift linkage, and their installation kit.
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Re: How many of you guys are running 700r4's
I don't have one in a 67-72 yet, but I have one in a 70 SS 454 El Camino and one in a 65 Chevelle with a 377 Stroker. I love being able to smoke the tires from a stop and cruise at 75.
I have two different shops here that I trust to do these trannys.
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