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Old 05-21-2014, 09:37 PM   #1
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Ratcheting Line wrench

I find my self in need of metric line wrenches. I have Mac SAE wrenches for the standard small sizes and a couple of old who knows bigger line wrenches that I have never need to use. I may be in for a surprise.

I have no contacts for Mac or Snap On, so I looked on ToolTopia. I found some GearWrench ratchiting line wrenches. It looks like a spring loaded arm that resets. Any way, has any of you fellows used anything like this? My other GearWrench tool are awesome, so maybe these would be too?

Rusty brake lines are a tough customer and it takes a tough wrench do the job.
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Old 05-22-2014, 01:25 AM   #2
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Re: Ratcheting Line wrench

I tend to have issues with "convenience" tools. It seems like unless you buy something like that from a Mac or SnapOn, it WILL break. With the Mac/Snap/Cornwall they usually don't break, and get replaced for free if they do. I also find that most of the "adjustable" or "auto fit" type tools never grip as tightly or firmly as the good brand tool does, and the tolerances and materials also leave something to be desired.

They also never seem to be able to deliver the same amount of torque. A few examples; cheap flaring tools don't seem to grip lines or make smooth flares like a good USA set does, those CV-joint socket parts always brake on cheapies. My uber cheap gear-wrench type ( not the actual brand) stripped internally. If I can't hit my wrench with a deadblow hammer, its not a good tool. I think auto-jaw pliers are one of the few exceptions.

I end up always needing MAX grip, MAX torque and TIGHT fit on a line wrench, especially for nicely crusted old brake and fuel lines. Personally, I don't see that tool delivering the goods.

If anyone has personally used them, and they work, then I might need a set...the idea itself is great.
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Old 05-22-2014, 09:03 AM   #3
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Rusty brake lines are a tough customer and it takes a tough wrench do the job.
Round just one of those off and all of a sudden the snap on line wrenches don't seem so expensive.
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Old 05-25-2014, 11:46 AM   #4
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Round just one of those off and all of a sudden the snap on line wrenches don't seem so expensive.
Snap On. period.
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Old 05-22-2014, 09:33 AM   #5
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Re: Ratcheting Line wrench

I haven't used those, but I have to agree that cheap line wrenches are a waste of money. Ask me how I know. Usually, I know better, but have forgotten the lesson of buying quality and only crying once.

Incidentally, I am new to the world of oxy-acetylene, but I had a rear brake line on a old 14 bolt that I needed to remove, and could not get it with soaking in PB Blaster for a couple days (I wasn't in a hurry), almost rounded the whole thing off. Hit it with a shot of heat from the new torch, and that thing came off like butta, haha. I havd read about it a million times, but I didn't have the torch then. If that is an option for wherever your brake line is located, you might try it. You will most likely not be able to save a flexible line, though.
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Old 05-22-2014, 11:24 AM   #6
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Re: Ratcheting Line wrench

My most recent brake line issue was the connection at the rear hose to line right next to the gas tank (plastic) and the nut was metric. No flame wrench that close to 20 gallons or so of Gas! I had to cut and reflare in tight quarters. A metric line wrench "might" have saved the day.

As for cost, that is not the issue. Availabilty of Snap-on, Mac, Cornwall is. I would have to meet the guy out on the road somewhere. I should probably just wait and look on ebay. It should be a while before I need one again. I just hate not having that one tool that makes or breaks the project and I do not have time to wait.
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My most recent brake line issue was the connection at the rear hose to line right next to the gas tank (plastic) and the nut was metric. No flame wrench that close to 20 gallons or so of Gas! I had to cut and reflare in tight quarters. A metric line wrench "might" have saved the day.

As for cost, that is not the issue. Availabilty of Snap-on, Mac, Cornwall is. I would have to meet the guy out on the road somewhere. I should probably just wait and look on ebay. It should be a while before I need one again. I just hate not having that one tool that makes or breaks the project and I do not have time to wait.
Can't find them online? Heck, the cornwall guy will show up anywhere if you have a reference.
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Old 05-24-2014, 07:28 PM   #8
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Re: Ratcheting Line wrench

GearWrench makes decent ratcheting wrenches, For Flare Nut wrenches...Mac tools makes the best, My Dad has a set...They are better than my Snap-On set.
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Old 05-22-2014, 01:29 PM   #9
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I haven't used those, but I have to agree that cheap line wrenches are a waste of money. Ask me how I know. Usually, I know better, but have forgotten the lesson of buying quality and only crying once.

Incidentally, I am new to the world of oxy-acetylene, but I had a rear brake line on a old 14 bolt that I needed to remove, and could not get it with soaking in PB Blaster for a couple days (I wasn't in a hurry), almost rounded the whole thing off. Hit it with a shot of heat from the new torch, and that thing came off like butta, haha. I havd read about it a million times, but I didn't have the torch then. If that is an option for wherever your brake line is located, you might try it. You will most likely not be able to save a flexible line, though.
I'm all for torching, but Dot3 is flammable, so just be careful.
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Old 05-22-2014, 12:47 PM   #10
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Re: Ratcheting Line wrench

The whole purpose of a line wrench is to get as much grab as possible so that you don't strip your hydraulic nuts. It seems to me that having a little mechanism in there is going to weaken your grab and cause problems! Your not typically turning a brake nut or hydraulic nut all that far anyways.

I have a set of mastercraft line wrenches and a set of Snap-On Flank Drive Plus open end wrenches and I have stripped out nuts with my line wrenches and removed them with the open end flank drive plus before. If your cool with spending $300 on a set of wrenches I highly recommend them.
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Old 05-22-2014, 01:04 PM   #11
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Re: Ratcheting Line wrench

Snap On sets on eBay, complete sets used for around $100, some more, some less. I like the sets that are flare on one end and open end on the other, they are a little more $$ than the sets with one wrench having a different size on each end.
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Old 05-25-2014, 04:33 PM   #12
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Re: Ratcheting Line wrench

i have the local snap on and mac guys cell numbers so if i break anything or need something... i call them and find out where they are at and meet them... hell they have even stopped by the house as long as its on there general route.

as for line wrenches, i have snapon and mac...
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Old 05-29-2014, 07:52 AM   #13
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Re: Ratcheting Line wrench

Thanks for the help guys. I found a MAC 5 piece metric set on ebay for $80. The biggest wrench was missing (#6 19-21mm) but i doubt I would ever use it.
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Old 06-28-2014, 03:06 PM   #14
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Re: Ratcheting Line wrench

I use a lot of Hydraulic fittings in my work and we have a set of the ratcheting line wrenches. They work very well and worth the money. I bought my set through my Swagelok dealer over 10 years ago but since their patent has expired I know people are using their design. I have never had an issue if them rounding the nuts.
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Old 06-28-2014, 10:46 PM   #15
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Re: Ratcheting Line wrench

a gimick just waiting to bust a knuckle or damage a line nut. Mac has some real cool line wrenches. Mine are semi-closed on one end and speed type on the other. But for the majority of my brake line work I use my snap-on ones. They are semi-closed on one end and open on the other.

My boss has hardware store/no-name ones and is always rounding nuts.
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