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09-08-2014, 06:11 PM | #1 |
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Pertronix Ignitor 1
So Whats everyones thoughts on this upgrade. I want to replace my points but dont want that huge HEI unit, want the stock look so i was looking at this system. Just looking for advice and any comments from any of you have used this system. Thanks
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09-08-2014, 06:12 PM | #2 |
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Re: Pertronix Ignitor 1
Oh btw 1970 C-10 307 manual stock stock stock lol
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09-08-2014, 06:34 PM | #3 |
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Re: Pertronix Ignitor 1
Haven't put one in any of my Chevys but I did put one in my 65 VW bug about 10 years ago and haven't had to mess with it since then . I've been very pleased with the unit
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09-08-2014, 07:02 PM | #4 |
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Re: Pertronix Ignitor 1
Most reviews will be in favor, a couple will not. I recently put one in my 71 Shortbed, very easy to install and worth it in my opinion. You might want to look at the Ignitor III however.
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09-08-2014, 08:23 PM | #5 |
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Re: Pertronix Ignitor 1
I put the Ignitor II [and Flamethrower II Coil] on the L6 292 in my '68 C/10 Stepside. Works real good. Simple install. About 5 years running with no problems.
A couple of notes: I heard the Ignitor (I) will burn out if the key is left on w/o the engine running. The later Ignitor II shuts itself off. Don't know if they corrected this gripe in the first model. Also, since it's a multi-spark device, the Ignitor III has signal issues with running tachometers. Their tech reps themselves recommended a couple of Pertronix III owners to downgrade to the Ignitor II to fix their tach problems. The Ignitor III is only available for V8s. The Pertronix system is also designed to run with the corresponding proprietary coil. One other thing -- you must run a seperate 10 or 12 gauge wire from Ignition Unfused to the positive (+) lead on the distributor module -- using the stock Yellow 20 to the coil positive terminal will result in performance loss as the resistor wire heats up and drops the voltage feed from 12 VDC to 7-9 VDC.
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09-09-2014, 10:48 AM | #6 |
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Re: Pertronix Ignitor 1
No. Still a "problem." These are extremely popular in the first gen mustangs, I have one in my 65. Quite a few people have "burned up" theirs by leaving the key on. I've had mine in for a couple years. Happy with it so far.
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09-08-2014, 08:26 PM | #7 |
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Cool thanks! Sounds like im gonna go with Ignitor II. Sounds like less problems for a daily driver truck. Thanks again
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09-08-2014, 09:41 PM | #8 |
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I have used Pertronix on my 402BB for about 10 yes and as of today ... no issues
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09-08-2014, 11:26 PM | #9 |
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Re: Pertronix Ignitor 1
I went with an HEI ready run and flamethrower. Looks stock at first glance. Running for 2 years now.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/SBC-BBC-CHEV...10b00e&vxp=mtr
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I have run both Ignitor I and II starting in the mid 90s with zero problems on 5 different cars, some running tens of thousands of miles. I have never had to run a 12 volt wire or upgrade the coil. You will NOT gain any horsepower over a properly set up stock points distributor. I think Pertronix says "some" applications need a 12 volt. The stock spark is more than adequate to ignite the mixture of any stock engine. What you WILL gain is a distributor that will perform like a stock points unit distributor with brand new, properly adjusted points and condenser, all the time with no adjustments.
The only car that actually gained power was a 69 Corvette with 350 horse 350, 11:1 compression and a 6000 redline. The cheap points available today would float above 5000-5500 rpms, whereas the Pertronix would let the engine rev right past 6000 rpms. Unless you have a highly modified engine, or high compression or high redline, this doesn't apply. I upgrade to Pertronix on every old car I buy. Last edited by brown7373; 09-09-2014 at 09:10 AM. Reason: add |
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Used an Ignitor 1 in my '66 Dodge Dart with the stock coil. Had zero complaints about it - it was like adjustment-free points, not a performance upgrade really, but it saved a lot of hassles and was as easy to install as changing points.
Only ditched it because I wanted to swap to an electronically controlled distributor for a turbo build.
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09-09-2014, 10:22 AM | #12 |
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I've done the Pertronix (1) upgrade to 3-4 trucks now.....zero complaints on my end.
I didn't run any extra 12 volt wires or anything along those lines..... just hook it up as per the instructions....they have all run and started great (and quickly) without issue. Go for it....get rid of those points! My two bits. Coley
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09-09-2014, 12:13 PM | #13 |
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I never viewed the issue with burn out if left in the run position an issue. That does not pertain to having the key in the accessory position, only the run position. That is if you turn the key to run, but not to the next position to engage the starter. There is no reason to keep the key in that position without the engine running.
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09-09-2014, 03:15 PM | #15 |
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Something else to stress with the Pertronix install, is to make sure you read the instructions and pay attention to the tolerances. Most applications you should remove the distributor so you can make sure the amount of slop in the lower gear is within spec. If it is not, it is easy to shim with the included hardened washers. If the gap is too large, when you accelerate, the shaft will lift up and the gap that triggers the spark will be too large and you will get misfire. Some guys just slap it in and don't pay attention to the detail, then complain that it doesn't work. Some distributors are within specs. some are not, but you won't know unless you remove it and measure the gear and install washers as required.
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09-09-2014, 04:48 PM | #16 |
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I recommend an upgrade from points to electronic to all my customers with old cars. I usually use a Petronics kit and have never had a problem with any of them. Every car or truck I have put one on has run better and made better power. Well worth the money.
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09-09-2014, 07:10 PM | #17 |
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I want to use the Type I, so I can get rid of the points on my I6
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