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Old 01-31-2016, 04:36 PM   #1
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72 "converted" 4x4 sold for $79,000 at BJ

Just turned on BJ as they rolled a 72 4x4 off the block explaining that it was a former 2WD "converted" to 4x4. Looked pretty much stock- didn't get a good look at it. SWB I believe (would hope)- kinda crazy. Wish I could link to it. I believe it was lot 1572
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Old 01-31-2016, 05:30 PM   #2
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Some people just have too much money

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Old 01-31-2016, 05:37 PM   #3
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Re: 72 "converted" 4x4 sold for $79,000 at BJ

With the buyers premium it actually cost $86,900 : http://www.barrett-jackson.com/Event...NNE-4X4-189358
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Old 01-31-2016, 05:42 PM   #4
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Re: 72 "converted" 4x4 sold for $79,000 at BJ

Cheaper than building it. It's a short box, big block, hugger orange, fully restored 4x4 Cheyenne with Air, AM/FM, tach, marker lights, and so on.

Other than the engine compartment and wheels it looks reasonably authentic, but I am surprised that a non-original truck would pull this high. Imagine what it'd be worth if it had come from the factory that way. Actually, between you and me, I think it was priced and bought like an original but it wasn't born this way.

I have to laugh when other people complain about people having "too much money". Meanwhile, they own 5 trucks. I have one truck. Every time I see a .sig with 3-8 trucks in it I don't feel the need to comment on it.

For all anyone knows the buyer is a member or will be shortly. Take it easy on them. If this is the truck you want, you can write a big check now or 1000 medium checks over the course of the next 4 years building it yourself. There's no shortcut.
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Old 01-31-2016, 09:09 PM   #5
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Cheaper than building it. It's a short box, big block, hugger orange, fully restored 4x4 Cheyenne with Air, AM/FM, tach, marker lights, and so on.

Other than the engine compartment and wheels it looks reasonably authentic, but I am surprised that a non-original truck would pull this high. Imagine what it'd be worth if it had come from the factory that way. Actually, between you and me, I think it was priced and bought like an original but it wasn't born this way.

I have to laugh when other people complain about people having "too much money". Meanwhile, they own 5 trucks. I have one truck. Every time I see a .sig with 3-8 trucks in it I don't feel the need to comment on it.

For all anyone knows the buyer is a member or will be shortly. Take it easy on them. If this is the truck you want, you can write a big check now or 1000 medium checks over the course of the next 4 years building it yourself. There's no shortcut.
I don't think it's cheaper than building it. If it was built with all NOS parts then maybe. But with Chinese repop parts, nah.
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I don't think it's cheaper than building it. If it was built with all NOS parts then maybe. But with Chinese repop parts, nah.
I'm not disagreeing with you, but think about if you paid a shop to build the entire truck for you. Labor would take up a big chunk of the total price, regardless of the quality of parts used.
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Old 02-01-2016, 01:27 PM   #7
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I don't think it's cheaper than building it. If it was built with all NOS parts then maybe. But with Chinese repop parts, nah.
I think I have about $35K in receipts from LMC, Brothers, and vendors. Stack $10K on for chrome (GMC) and stainless and paint supplies, you're at $45K. Add the $5K I spent on the truck, that's $50K before labor.

It comes down to choices.

1) A new center AC vent
2) Rechrome the center AC vent
3) Why on earth would I do more than clean it?

It -should- be #2. Even I settle for #1 if its a good repro. But you can build a truck cheap with a lot of (3)s. But then you have pitting on your vents. Like I said, it totally depends on the level you're building to.

I can build you a not bad cheap truck too. I just don't build them that way.
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Old 02-01-2016, 01:53 PM   #8
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Re: 72 "converted" 4x4 sold for $79,000 at BJ

Well there lies the question how does one know exactly what's been put into these high dollar trucks?

And how much does that matter?

Dave you do those things because they matter to you. Me I'm fine with repop or refurbished cleaned things on my build because I want a driver not a showpiece. And there's nothing wrong with either route.
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Well there lies the question how does one know exactly what's been put into these high dollar trucks?

And how much does that matter?

Dave you do those things because they matter to you. Me I'm fine with repop or refurbished cleaned things on my build because I want a driver not a showpiece. And there's nothing wrong with either route.
Agree entirely. I'm operating under the presumption that the truck was built to that level, and hence the price. I'm also not saying one is better than the other - building an "as new" truck that you then drive doesn't make a ton of sense (unless, like me, you daydream about time travel so you can buy the truck optioned how you'd like it).

If it was just a nice truck you would normally buy for $35K on eBay and a couple of buyers got carried away, then it's as bad as some people think.

Thing is none of us were there to inspect the truck, so blanket statements about overpaying aren't grounded on any facts. It could cost that or more to build. It could cost less. It could be worth way more or less.

Probably less.

Edit: I forgot option (4) above, NOS vent. I did a bit of that, but this particular truck didn't warrant an NOS-fest.
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Old 01-31-2016, 05:49 PM   #10
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Crazy. I don't even know what to say about that price. It's a beautiful truck maybe 25-30,000 tops if I were buying it, and I think that's generous as its not a real 4x4. Pete, you could probably get 100 for yours!
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I have to laugh when people think Barrett Jackson prices are "realistic" every day prices. Only way it's cheaper than building it is if you have no talent and have to pay a restoration shop to do your work for you. I completely did a frame off restoration of my 67 Chevelle, myself, and have about $24,000 into it. Of course I have hundreds of hours of my time, so if I was farming out that work, it's going to be well over $50,000. The seller of the 72 is laughing all the way to the bank
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Old 01-31-2016, 05:51 PM   #12
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I have to laugh when people think Barrett Jackson prices are "realistic" every day prices. Only way it's cheaper than building it is if you have no talent and have to pay a restoration shop to do your work for you. I completely did a frame off restoration of my 67 Chevelle, myself, and have about $24,000 into it. Of course I have hundreds of hours of my time, so if I was farming out that work, it's going to be well over $50,000. The seller of the 72 is laughing all the way to the bank
Until you go to sell it, then watch your story change.

I have my checkbook ready for everyone that's going to sell me this truck for $24K. I can travel and will arrange for transportation. Strange how when I was a buyer trying to find a truck for 2 (3?) solid years no one was selling 'em at the prices you think are "right".
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Old 01-31-2016, 06:48 PM   #13
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The 71 K5 Blazer went for $59,000.00 , it was very nice. Chump change for some. There's places in this country were the billionaire's are pushing out the poor millionaire's .
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I have to laugh when people think Barrett Jackson prices are "realistic" every day prices. Only way it's cheaper than building it is if you have no talent and have to pay a restoration shop to do your work for you. I completely did a frame off restoration of my 67 Chevelle, myself, and have about $24,000 into it. Of course I have hundreds of hours of my time, so if I was farming out that work, it's going to be well over $50,000. The seller of the 72 is laughing all the way to the bank
If thats the case, Ill write you a check for $24,000 for you Chenille right now. Your labor isn't worth anything right? That was free.

Either way you spin it, if the seller had $30,000 in parts and did all the labor, you are saying that the truck should sell for maybe $35,000? You don't make money that way. Nothing is free. Someone is paying for it.
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A plain Jane long box sold for 37k as well today. Beautiful truck but wow
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$80k plus and the paint is wrong. Why do so many people not paint the tops of the doors!
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$80k plus and the paint is wrong. Why do so many people not paint the tops of the doors!
Man, that bugged me too....
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I agree that the price is too high. That could easily been build for a lot less than that. These sky-high auction prices just show how many people have more money than brains.
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Old 01-31-2016, 10:05 PM   #19
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What is "Omaha Orange"? Sounds like something Peyton Manning came up with
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http://www.barrett-jackson.com/Event...ZER-4X4-189359

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$80k plus and the paint is wrong. Why do so many people not paint the tops of the doors!
Because it looks 100000% better than them not matching the top.

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Old 01-31-2016, 06:54 PM   #22
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Those who think these prices are realistic need to look hard at what else is out there & what they bring in. Labour & parts costs mean nothing, we all know that when you sell you rarely get everything back. There have & are trucks like these selling in the $20-30g range daily. Just because you didn't see it or buy it, doesn't mean it's not happening. If you look at all the trucks sold at BJ some shown on tv others not you'll see some actually went for a fair market price & others way over priced. To think that 4x4 is actually worth $90g in fair market value is crazy to be honest. Even an original wouldn't normally go that high.
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I think of the cars I could buy for 86k or even the nice original pickups I could buy for half that and just laugh....
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The chances of this being someone's dream truck are slim. What's sad is you'll see it on ebay in a few weeks with a 124,900 buy it now...... the above poster looked for 2-3 years in all reality wasn't looking to hard with lots of K trucks selling in various places in the 15 -30 range. My 72 is all original with a.c. and tilt and I have 22k total after frame off including the $5500 I pd for the truck
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86K? That's insane.
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