Interesting original paint oddity.

[hewittca]

Hi all. I recently purchased my first c10 and it is basically all original except for the wheels. It's still wearing its original dark green paint with turquoise column, belts, and visors. It has typical patina everywhere (red oxide primer on cab and black everywhere else, see door jam pic), EXCEPT for on the firewall. I was doing some work on the motor today and noticed that there is a spot of dark green missing and beneath it is turquoise!? I thought that maybe some paint got transferred to it at some point, so I sanded a bit of the green off and sure enough there is turquoise beneath it. I don't know anything about how these trucks were painted on the assembly line, but I have never seen this before. The section of firewall in question does appear to be part of the cab and not a bolted on piece. The firewall does also still have the original chalk marks. I'm stumped, any paint gurus out there that could share some insight?

[68bowtie]

interesting. is the dash the lighter color? maybe they sprayed the dash first and got carried away...

[hewittca]

Good thought but nope, dash is dark green as well.

[Hutch]

Maybe it is a light primer that the green has leached into

[Mike C]

That turquoise steering column suggests the dash may be a repaint.

[hewittca]

Originally Posted by Mike C

That turquoise steering column suggests the dash may be a repaint.

Hmmm, interesting. With the turquoise underneath it does appear something (like the dash) was painted turquoise first, and then the cab was painted dark green. I've never seen a truck with a different colored dash. For what it's worth, the glove box cover does appear to be original with the SPID still intact, and there is a little wear in the paint by the ignition and no sign of turquoise there.

[special-K]

In '67 the interior was painted the interior trim color and I have seen early '68s done the same way. Maybe this was somewhere early in that transition and was started in the old way, then changed (although sequence # isn't that low). But the firewall shouldn't have been painted for the '67s.

I see the rubber bumper is missing from the lower jamb with no hole where it should be. I wonder what's up with that?

[STP67-72]

Originally Posted by special-K

In '67 the interior was painted the interior trim color and I have seen early '68s done the same way. Maybe this was somewhere early in that transition and was started in the old way, then changed (although sequence # isn't that low). But the firewall shouldn't have been painted for the '67s.

I see the rubber bumper is missing from the lower jamb with no hole where it should be. I wonder what's up with that?

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[STP67-72]

Originally Posted by STP67-72

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Here's what my dark green 68 looked like before it got torn down. Original truck with one repainted.
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[STP67-72]

Originally Posted by STP67-72

Here's what my dark green 68 looked like before it got torn down. Original truck with one repainted.
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[hewittca]

Originally Posted by STP67-72

Here's what my dark green 68 looked like before it got torn down. Original truck with one repainted.

Thank you for posting these! It appears our interiors were identical except yours has the turquoise door panels. Unless someone completely stripped my panels and then primed them black, my panels have always been dark green as they show typical wear (rusty sweat stains, nice) and no turquoise underneath. I see yours also has the dark green dash pad like mine, which seems to hint that mine has not been altered. I also checked the top of the dash and unless someone did a very thorough job of changing the color, it too is all original.

[special-K]

Originally Posted by hewittca

Thank you for posting these! It appears our interiors were identical except yours has the turquoise door panels. Unless someone completely stripped my panels and then primed them black, my panels have always been dark green as they show typical wear (rusty sweat stains, nice) and no turquoise underneath. I see yours also has the dark green dash pad like mine, which seems to hint that mine has not been altered. I also checked the top of the dash and unless someone did a very thorough job of changing the color, it too is all original.

It doesn't tell us much about your firewall, but with the rubber bumper and hole gone, door panels painted black (should be turquoise) and the top of the dash painted (should also be matte finish turquoise), I'd have to say your truck isn't all original paint

[clemsonteg]

Originally Posted by special-K

In '67 the interior was painted the interior trim color and I have seen early '68s done the same way. Maybe this was somewhere early in that transition and was started in the old way, then changed (although sequence # isn't that low). But the firewall shouldn't have been painted for the '67s.

I see the rubber bumper is missing from the lower jamb with no hole where it should be. I wonder what's up with that?

I saw the missing rubber bumper too. Probably wouldn't have noticed if I didn't replace mine last week

[hewittca]

Originally Posted by special-K

I see the rubber bumper is missing from the lower jamb with no hole where it should be. I wonder what's up with that?

There is a hole with nothing in it juuuust above the top edge of the door jamb picture. Is that about where it should be, or is there one lower?

[clemsonteg]

Originally Posted by hewittca

There is a hole with nothing in it juuuust above the top edge of the door jamb picture. Is that about where it should be, or is there one lower?

Mine has 2, one where you describe and one on the lower part near the corner where the rocker meets the cab

[scooterpimp]

Oddly enough , my orig dark greem 71 has that lighter color under it on door panels. They must have had alot of that aqua/teal paint leftover & had to use it somewhere?

[hewittca]

OK, so I found a build thread for Graham57a's all original dark green '68 (http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=677992) and his has the same "Green vinyl trim" on the SPID, but he has the turquoise colored dash and dashpad. Between Stp67-72's and Graham57a's trucks, I guess that pretty much confirms that mine most likely had a turquoise dash from factory and that is why there is turquoise underneath the dark green on my firewall. Thanks everyone for the insight!

[davepl]

My Dad's dark olive had the light green underneath as well. I do not know why. As a kid in 1972 we speculated it had had a repaint.

I just about fell out of my chair when that memory hit me, it was buried deep, but I remember it very clearly.

For some reason I remember it other areas than the firewall, but can't vouch for that.

[Bagd72Chevy]

My 67 GMC was white on the outside with a blue interior. Blue dash, blue floor, blue firewall, white outside. I painted it back exactly how I found it (underneath the poo brown someone put on in 1987).

[STP67-72]

Originally Posted by Bagd72Chevy

My 67 GMC was white on the outside with a blue interior. Blue dash, blue floor, blue firewall, white outside. I painted it back exactly how I found it (underneath the poo brown someone put on in 1987).

I had a dark blue 67 big window GMC swb a couple years ago .. It had fawn interior ( original paint ) and the complete firewall was fawn also with chalk marks. My buddy bought it and found out the firewall thing was GMC only !!!
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[Bagd72Chevy]

Originally Posted by STP67-72

I had a dark blue 67 big window GMC swb a couple years ago .. It had fawn interior ( original paint ) and the complete firewall was fawn also with chalk marks. My buddy bought it and found out the firewall thing was GMC only !!!
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Good to know. someone had spray painted my firewall black but I wet sanded it off and found some chalk marks (illegible) but they hadnt prepped it.

[special-K]

In the pictures, the paint on the dash has a texture not consistent with factory paint. Is that turquiose on the firewall or is it 503 light green?

[hewittca]

Originally Posted by special-K

In the pictures, the paint on the dash has a texture not consistent with factory paint. Is that turquiose on the firewall or is it 503 light green?

I keep calling it turquoise but I suppose it is 503 "light green". I also noticed that the texture of the paint on the dash was odd. It appears to be the dark green, but then it has another layer on top that is flaking off, maybe like a clear coat or something. I thought at first maybe they sprayed some sort of matte clear on top of the single stage color, but I'm assuming that is wrong and that they just had matte finish single stage for the dash? This appears to be another indication that the dash was a repaint. If so, someone really went to town sanding off ALL the old paint because, as you can see, there is quite a bit of paint missing from the dash and no light green is present underneath.

[hewittca]

Mystery solved! Sorry to revive a thread from a few months ago but I believe I have found the source of the mystery 503 green, or so I thought it was. Originally, I thought for certain it was 503 under my 505 dark green. I even sanded a small spot to reveal what looked like more 503 underneath. Well, fast forward to last weekend when I started wet sanding/buffing my cab and much to my surprise, all the residue appeared to be 503 green! Looking back now at the original spot in question, it is clear that the paint was rubbed thin through contact with the back edge of the hood, resulting in the light green residual spot left behind. Here is a photo of the color sanding residue:



I sure am glad to have cleared that up. It still doesn't explain why my truck doesn't have the 503 green dash to match the column, but maybe mine was ordered this way? Who knows...