Alternator Dilemma Without OEM Manifolds

[DJ_Baar]

OK, 1967 Chevy C20 with newly rebuilt 355 Gen I SBC.

Just got sorted-out the problems with power steering pump fittings for original high pressure line, (separate blog).

Ordered a CPP kit to relocate the alternator bracket (like picture) because I removed the old OEM manifold with mounting bracket.

Got a new updated alternator, kept original pulley for V-belt to save some money now, but kept the new alternator fan for best cooling.

Now you see the next two pictures, one with complete CPP Kit, totally does not fit for the adjusting arm and will have to shim the alternator in mount for fit and alignment. So tried the adjusting arm I had and its closer, but still no joy.

Ideas? I'm thinking I just need to get the clocking correct on alternator AND an adjustment arm that arches more?

R/
DJ

[Grumpy old man]

The CPP picture looks like the stock cast bottom bracket and stock upper arm ,Your picture looks like a fabricated / welded bottom bracket and generic upper arm . Send it back and find a stock set up ,I just had mine chromed you can see the difference in the arc of the upper bracket easily .

[Warrens69GMC]

are you wanting to keep it all SWP?

[DJ_Baar]

Originally Posted by Warrens69GMC

are you wanting to keep it all SWP?

All configured with short (neck) water pump.

[bill3rail]

Originally Posted by DJ_Baar

Ideas? I'm thinking I just need to get the clocking correct on alternator AND an adjustment arm that arches more?

R/
DJ

If you are referring to the clock position of the alternator, it will not change the positioning from the pivot bolt to the tightening bolt. They will always be 180* off.

Funny how the CPP picture is totally different than the one they are selling.
CAST versus Welded!

[DJ_Baar]

Grumpy Old Man, I totally agree. Contacting CCP (not first time, had issues with disk brake kit lines, BIG time). Hope you do not mind, but I will provide your picture as example of difference in arc to what I received.

Note, I have been buying what I needed as I could and it has been awhile since purchase. but if they stand by their product (also posted on FB), they will help resolve this.

[Warrens69GMC]

ok. The cpp kit shows a CS series alternator ands you have a 10si alternator. There might be a height difference in the two alternators.

[DJ_Baar]

When I was buying it, had them side by side, and only noted the difference with pulley (switched) but could be wrong. Will hit my Friend up at AZ Tuesday, if that is the issue. Higher but limited output with same v-belt pulley was his idea. But the set Grumpy Old Man has looked taller and more arced? I emailed CPP with all the details and pictures too trying to help resolve issue.

[Grumpy old man]

Here's the part # , I stuck my old alt in to show fit

[DJ_Baar]

Thank you Grumpy Old Man!

I noted that even the side to side needed to be shimmed with washers to fit gap for smaller "thickness(?)". And could not find any part numbers on this powder coated bracket.

PS. Your engine looks GREAT!

[Grumpy old man]

Originally Posted by DJ_Baar

Thank you Grumpy Old Man!

I noted that even the side to side needed to be shimmed with washers to fit gap for smaller "thickness(?)". And could not find any part numbers on this powder coated bracket.

PS. Your engine looks GREAT!

That's an Edlebrock CB3X Alum intake hiding under that orange paint and 487 /2.02 heads ,4 bolt,2.5" rams Waiting on some more chrome pieces and it's ready to drop in .

[DJ_Baar]

Originally Posted by Grumpy old man

That's an Edlebrock CB3X Alum intake hiding under that orange paint and 487 /2.02 heads ,4 bolt,2.5" rams Waiting on some more chrome pieces and it's ready to drop in .

Looks SWEET!!!

[Grumpy old man]

Originally Posted by DJ_Baar

Looks SWEET!!!

Just a bunch of old school parts with some glitz added

[DJ_Baar]

Articles like this is why I thought easy conversion to SI alternator, that and the AWW (American Auto Wire) complete upgrade I am in middle of doing now.

http://www.chevyhardcore.com/tech-st...-at-the-ready/

[DJ_Baar]

Found receipt and actually purchased this product from Performance On Line (POL). Sent them a complete detail (best I could without pictures), and bottom line, "Was this a cheap knock-off of CPP product or what?" It needs to fit. See link for their product. https://www.performanceonline.com/Ch...acket-kit-SWP/

[Warrens69GMC]

Google "performance online problems"

[Grumpy old man]

Place a WTB (want to buy ) ad in the parts section ,I'm sure there are more than a few guys with stock brackets available . I'm going over to see Dean at the Chevytruckfarm in Kodak,tn this week I can see if he has what you need If you can't find them .

[DJ_Baar]

I found only the following link Warrens69GMC. [url]https://www.yelp.com/biz/performance-online-corona[/ur0l]
From what I see I maybe wasted $$$ & need to buy directly from CPP?

Grumpy Old Man, I will let you know, it will be Tuesday before I hear anything back from POL or CPP.

[Warrens69GMC]

Jamco Suspensiion aka POL or Performance Online has been shady for the last 10 years or so.

https://www.google.com/search?q=jamc...w=1366&bih=637

[DJ_Baar]

Grumpy Old Man --- I found the following which is what I think you have chromed?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Chevrolet-3...EAAOSwG4lZ1kZT

That's $79.95 (plus $11 shipping). eBay has the CPP product for $89.00 (free shipping)

https://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-CHEVY-V...kAAOSwam1aox~l

Thoughts? I'm thinking of making an offer & grabbing this original assembly and see how it fits? Looks like it will work fine.

[Grumpy old man]

I'd be posting a WTB ad before paying $91.00 on ebay

[DJ_Baar]

Project is getting into a press for time. Sometimes time is $$$, jus sayin.



Working many other parts of project too, see following link if interested.

http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=747394

[Jason Banks]

I go ahead an post a WTB since none of those ebay items are shipping until Tuesday anway...

[DJ_Baar]

No reply from Performance Online - not surprised. Tried calling and their voice message box was full - I did wait until after holiday weekend plus two days. I did however buy the original Chevy part I found on eBay, keeping fingers crossed that works. I CANNOT recommend POL for their products or standing behind them. Receipt reads "ALL SALES FINAL" and only gives you 30 days or you OWN IT. And we all know how you have setbacks with one thing or another that you cannot get to doing as planned as soon as planned. Life and our projects are what they are.

[Steeveedee]

Yeah, I'll never buy from POL again. Incidentally, I believe that the mid-'60s Corvette SB alternator bracket has the smaller radius curve that you would need to keep the fan off the bracket. I think it was from '64. That bracket is not on my truck, it has a BB. I had it on my '64 Impala with an SHP 327.