1970 c20 4x4?

[bcfishon]

Going to look at a rig this weekend and the fellow is stating it's a factory c20 4x4. I have seen a few other people selling these c branded rigs as 4x4 and always figured they were cab swaps ,is there such a thing?

[jocko]

Fender badging is irrelevant and most sellers don't even know what a "K" is. If you don't want a conversion or cab swap, ask the seller what the VIN first digit is before you waste a trip. If K, it's originally a factory K20 (i.e. 3/4 ton 4x4), if a C, it's been converted.

[Vintage Windmills]

The base trim level 1969 and 1970 K20's had "C/20" fender badges on them. Chevrolet did not make a "K/20" fender badge. I guess they figured the production numbers weren't high enough to bother. That decision leads to confusion to this day.

[bcfishon]

So it could be factory fendered a c series but the VIN will prove the k series no matter the year (67-72) or fender badge.
Thanks I learned something today.

[jocko]

correct - here is an example of a factory base trim 70 K20, note the badge as Jud points out and the leading character of the VIN on the SPID. Also note the the Model number on the SPID, it will also begin with a K.
The VIN of the truck you're going to look at should begin with KE240... and the Model # should be KE20934.

Also, if the truck happens to be a CST trim level truck (PRO Z84 on the SPID), rather than the base trim, it will have a CST/20 emblem in place of the C/20 on the fender - and if it is ordered as a Custom Camper (RPO Z81), it will have a CustomCamper/20 emblem on the fender, regardless of the trim level (i.e. it could be a base or CST trim level) - but the VIN and Model # will still start with a K if it's a factory 4x4. Always cross check the metal cab tag VIN with the SPID VIN, assuming the SPID is still present. Frame VIN will not include the leading characters - but it will include the last 6 plus a few before that - so that is one way to determine if the frame is original to the truck - it will have the same last 6 digits as the VIN. If it's a "C" for the first character of the VIN, it's likely a cab swap and the frame VIN won't match. Good luck!

[Vintage Windmills]

Correct. To be safe, check the VIN on the VIN plate (by driver door jamb), SPID (glovebox label), and title to make sure they all match. There is also a partial VIN on the frame rail in the engine bay by the steering shaft but they're sometimes hard to find.

[special-K]

Doesn't apply to any but the '72s, but in case you are still looking after seeing this one (and for general knowledge) a '72 Chevy K/20 will have a VIN that starts C then K and the GMC will start T then K. They added a prefix digit to I.D. between Chevy and GMC

[bcfishon]

Originally Posted by special-K

Doesn't apply to any but the '72s, but in case you are still looking after seeing this one (and for general knowledge) a '72 Chevy K/20 will have a VIN that starts C then K and the GMC will start T then K. They added a prefix digit to I.D. between Chevy and GMC

Just when I thought I had it down! This one is the king of confusion. Some great info thanks again people.

[special-K]

All Blazers were K/5s and they all had the same emblem that said so. but there were 2wd K/5s as well. That's confusing

[bcfishon]

Originally Posted by special-K

All Blazers were K/5s and they all had the same emblem that said so. but there were 2wd K/5s as well. That's confusing

Ok so I have this 1972 blazer sitting around the VIN is cke###f######
It has. 5 lug front and rear and leafs in the back,I assumed it was a k5 converted to 2 wheel drive,am I mistaken?

[jocko]

You're not mistaken. I believe Tim was just saying that even 2WD Blazers got the K5 nameplate on the fender in years they were offered. VIN would still show whether originally a 2WD or 4WD.
C or CC (72 only) is 2WD, K or CK (72 only) is 4WD.

[special-K]

The VIN on a 2wd Blazer would start with C, but from my experience they were all called K/5, 2wd and 4wd. I never heard the 2wds back in the day referred to as C/5s, But mostly people just say Blazer. I don't because that leaves out Jimmys