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**tjmb1086** · 08-01-2019, 11:38 AM

Wanted to see if there was anyway i could find out what exactly my truck came with from the factory using the Vin # or what i needed to find that information out and see if there's someone that could make a new look alike SPID for the truck. Thanks for help guys.

**leddzepp** · 08-01-2019, 12:14 PM

Outintheshop.com

Contact Jeff. He makes perfect spid labels, and you can add any option you want.

weim55 · 08-01-2019, 12:32 PM

If you are lucky there might be a build sheet in the seat springs or taped to the gas tank, or gas tank cardboard.

Steve weim55 Colorado

Keith Seymore · 08-01-2019, 01:25 PM

Information for US built and sold trucks not available through GM until 1976/77.

https://www.gmheritagecenter.com/gm-...tion-kits.html

If your truck was built in Canada, or built in the US for Canadian sale, then GM of Canada might have the original build info.

https://www.vintagevehicleservices.com/

K

**tjmb1086** · 08-01-2019, 01:53 PM

I found out that it was built in St Louis by the vin decoder and what it came with as far as the engine and transmission, just would like to know alot more.

cypressbog · 08-01-2019, 05:37 PM

Sorry, there's nothing that will help w/o the build sheet.

**jocko** · 08-01-2019, 08:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tjmb1086

I found out that it was built in St Louis by the vin decoder and what it came with as far as the engine and transmission, just would like to know alot more.

While you can determine V8 vs I6 (but not which V8), unfortunately you can't determine transmission from the VIN.

**71CHEVYSHORTBED402** · 08-01-2019, 07:29 PM

Like others have said, you pretty well need a build sheet.

But......................if you were well familiar with the truck history, and knew what you were looking at, it's possible to build a SPID with a lot of certainty. Just as an example, if the serial number on the frame matches title/cab, the frame was built a certain way (SBC Vs BBC), and the castings numbers on your long block are consistent with the truck assembled date. Good chance what was installed in your truck is what's in it.

Requires a lot of research and experience, but you'd always have the caveat your SPID may not be accurate.

**tjmb1086** · 08-01-2019, 07:41 PM

All the # on the frame and cab etc seem to match the vin # so I'd say its all original, just wanted to see if there's away that i could get a original Spid made for the truck looks like there's a guy that might be able to help me out. Thanks for all the replies and the good info you guys have given.

71gmcC15 · 08-01-2019, 08:16 PM

A good way to build a spid is to look at others and see what option whare available and mach what you have. For instance does your pickup have a chrome frount bumper. If yes it can be added to the spid. And so on with any other options you find your pickup has.

**71CHEVYSHORTBED402** · 08-02-2019, 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tjmb1086

All the # on the frame and cab etc seem to match the vin # so I'd say its all original, just wanted to see if there's away that i could get a original Spid made for the truck looks like there's a guy that might be able to help me out. Thanks for all the replies and the good info you guys have given.

Yep, Jeff does nice work, I can't tell the difference between his work and original, or close enough.

Quote:

Originally Posted by davepl

If it's a Fremont truck (Z in the VIN) we've found them stuck to the front of the bed, trapped behind the cab.

Both mine are Fremont. It was under the bench in the 71, and it's behind the bench in my 72. Never actually read the 72 sheet. They're real brittle at this point, it's pull the seat or shred it.

davepl · 08-02-2019, 11:44 AM

If it's a Fremont truck (Z in the VIN) we've found them stuck to the front of the bed, trapped behind the cab.

08-01-2019, 11:38 AM	#1
tjmb1086 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Ks Posts: 1,115	SPID is missing Wanted to see if there was anyway i could find out what exactly my truck came with from the factory using the Vin # or what i needed to find that information out and see if there's someone that could make a new look alike SPID for the truck. Thanks for help guys.

08-01-2019, 12:14 PM	#2
leddzepp Moderator Join Date: May 2007 Location: Southern Cal Posts: 19,996	Re: SPID is missing Outintheshop.com Contact Jeff. He makes perfect spid labels, and you can add any option you want. __________________ 1972 C/10 Cheyenne Super SWB. Restored, loaded, slammed. 1968 C/10 50th Anniversary LWB. Unrestored, stock, daily driver/work truck. RIP ElJay RIP 67ChevyRedneck RIP Grumpy Old Man

08-01-2019, 12:32 PM	#3
weim55 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: Larkspur, Colorado Posts: 916	Re: SPID is missing If you are lucky there might be a build sheet in the seat springs or taped to the gas tank, or gas tank cardboard. Steve weim55 Colorado

08-01-2019, 01:25 PM	#4
Keith Seymore Registered User Join Date: May 2009 Location: Motor City Posts: 9,184	Re: SPID is missing Information for US built and sold trucks not available through GM until 1976/77. https://www.gmheritagecenter.com/gm-...tion-kits.html If your truck was built in Canada, or built in the US for Canadian sale, then GM of Canada might have the original build info. https://www.vintagevehicleservices.com/ K __________________ Chevrolet Flint Assembly 1979-1986 GM Full Size Truck Engineering 1986 - 2019 Intro from an Old Assembly Guy: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=342926 My Pontiac story: http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...d.php?t=560524 Chevelle intro: http://www.superchevy.com/features/s...hevy-chevelle/

08-01-2019, 01:53 PM	#5
tjmb1086 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Ks Posts: 1,115	Re: SPID is missing I found out that it was built in St Louis by the vin decoder and what it came with as far as the engine and transmission, just would like to know alot more.

08-01-2019, 05:37 PM	#6
cypressbog Go Pack Go! Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Green Bay Posts: 2,669	Re: SPID is missing Sorry, there's nothing that will help w/o the build sheet.

08-01-2019, 07:29 PM	#8
71CHEVYSHORTBED402 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern Nevada Posts: 7,205	Re: SPID is missing Like others have said, you pretty well need a build sheet. But......................if you were well familiar with the truck history, and knew what you were looking at, it's possible to build a SPID with a lot of certainty. Just as an example, if the serial number on the frame matches title/cab, the frame was built a certain way (SBC Vs BBC), and the castings numbers on your long block are consistent with the truck assembled date. Good chance what was installed in your truck is what's in it. Requires a lot of research and experience, but you'd always have the caveat your SPID may not be accurate. __________________ Tony 71 Custom Deluxe, SWB, 2WD, 402, A/C. I developed an assembly kit for restoring the (a) truck from the ground up. My build thread, and more on the assembly kit https://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/...d.php?t=730025

08-01-2019, 07:41 PM	#9
tjmb1086 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Ks Posts: 1,115	Re: SPID is missing All the # on the frame and cab etc seem to match the vin # so I'd say its all original, just wanted to see if there's away that i could get a original Spid made for the truck looks like there's a guy that might be able to help me out. Thanks for all the replies and the good info you guys have given.

08-01-2019, 08:16 PM	#10
71gmcC15 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: Doland SD Posts: 836	Re: SPID is missing A good way to build a spid is to look at others and see what option whare available and mach what you have. For instance does your pickup have a chrome frount bumper. If yes it can be added to the spid. And so on with any other options you find your pickup has. __________________ ( second times the charm) 71 gmc c15 307 sbc 373 rear gears positrac sm 465 trans. ( not listed on spid but is original ) 94 chevy k1500 350 tbi 373 rear gears 4l60e one wheel peel. Gutless 07 gmc sierra classic rcsb 4.3 lt 5 speed w/t 04 chevy Silverado 1500 ext cab 5.3 4l60e. 81 chevy Scottsdale k10 muncie sm465 Np208 10 bolt 8.2 ( Old Green)

08-02-2019, 11:44 AM	#12
davepl Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Redmond, WA Posts: 6,332	Re: SPID is missing If it's a Fremont truck (Z in the VIN) we've found them stuck to the front of the bed, trapped behind the cab. __________________ 1970 GMC Sierra Grande Custom Camper - Built, not Bought 1969 Pontiac 2+2 427/390 4-speed Coupe 1969 Pontiac 2+2 427/390 4-speed Convertible

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