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12-27-2019, 04:55 PM | #1 |
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3" drop coil question
Hey guys, hope everybody had a great Christmas.
Just wondering how many people have run a 3" drop coil with stock control arms, and successfully aligned the front end. I'm getting conflicting information, and I know I'll get a straight answer from the members on here. Thanks |
12-27-2019, 07:05 PM | #2 |
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Re: 3" drop coil question
I went with drop spindles, stock coils and have had no problems. Don’t know about the set up you are contemplating.
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12-27-2019, 10:03 PM | #3 | |
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Re: 3" drop coil question
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The reason I'm asking about the use of a 3" drop coil with STOCK control arms is that I already spent the money rebuilding them with Moog ball joints, cross shafts etc... I didn't plan on 3" coils, but didn't get the drop I wanted from the 2". I've heard people say that the 3" drop coils made getting an alignment impossible because the camber cannot be corrected due to running out of stud length for the upper crossshafts. Others say they had no problems... Last edited by carbon69; 12-27-2019 at 10:18 PM. |
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12-27-2019, 11:02 PM | #4 |
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Re: 3" drop coil question
Mine was done about 20 yrs ago. At that time I redid the whole front suspension. Just using the spindles. I put 5" drop springs on the rear. Got the stance I like. Not up on alignment. It's been aligned twice this year. The second time because I replaced the steering box and Pitman arm. Here's a picture of it in the driveway. Sit a little nose down but gets a lot of attention.
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12-27-2019, 11:07 PM | #5 |
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Re: 3" drop coil question
Might be wise to find the best alignment shop in your area. One you see classics around. Or one recommended by a trusted mechanic. And get their feed back. My mechanic is great when it comes to recommendations. Found him when I noticed that there was always one classic or another around his shop. Also is highly recommended on line. Word of mouth is the greatest advertisement for me.
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12-28-2019, 10:04 AM | #6 |
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Re: 3" drop coil question
I've had 3" drop coils for over 20 years never had a problem with them are getting it aligned. If the shop can't align it it's time to find a new shop!
I'm putting 3" coils in the 68 step too!
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12-29-2019, 01:54 AM | #7 |
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Re: 3" drop coil question
Years ago I installed 2-1/2" drop spindles with 2" drop springs in a 72 C/10 LWB with a 350 under the hood. The only alignment adjustment necessary was to bring the toe in back into spec. I replaced the factory shocks with a Monroe shock that was 2" shorter than the factory spec'd shock. I also added a factory 1-1/16" sway bar and inverted the two forward mounts placing them inside the frame brackets and running the sway bar inside the forward frame brackets. That raised the front of the sway bar about 3" and gave it some protection inside the brackets. My only issue was tire rub in the bumps and turns because at the time I was running 275/60R-15 BFG TA/Radials all four corners. I corrected the issue by reinstalling the factory coils with 1/2 coil cut off the bottoms. This raised the front by only 1/2" but gave the suspension a much stiffer ride which was perfect. As I said that was years ago and that truck now has a 439ci BBC motor with Moog coils and adjustable shocks up front. The sway bar made a huge difference in how the truck steered. I kept it simple out back and added 4" drop coils and by doing so the panhard bar pushed the axle 1" to the right. I quite by accident bent the panhard bar strapping the truck down to my trailer. After the 120 mile journey I realized that the axle was nearly centered, and that by swapping ends of the bar I was able to access the Moser 12-bolt cover girdle. No notches or shock relocaters were necessary, the truck handles perfectly and can still haul my 600 lb KZ-1000 bike with 2" of clearance between the axle and bump stops...
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12-29-2019, 03:41 AM | #8 |
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Re: 3" drop coil question
Any time you use a drop coil inner tire wear will be increased. The more drop in the coil the worse it is. Even if the arms are set to proper camber at static drop height the camber curve is accelerated due to the arms sitting at the wrong angle. This is claimed to be corrected by some aftermarket drop members and can somewhat be compensated for by changing the suspension geometry. If you drive the truck a lot spindles are a no brainer. Adding a drop coil to them will increase tire wear. With a spindle and 3" drop on the coil in my 94 10-15 thousand miles is all I could expect on the front tires and it was aligned properly. Went through 3 sets of tires at that drop height. I enjoyed it and expected the tire changes.
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12-29-2019, 03:58 AM | #9 |
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Re: 3" drop coil question
Sorry for the huge picture, but no issues with the alignment, 3” coils in front, 5” in back...drives really well, but the front spring rate is a little softer than I’d like, you do have to watch the sharp bumps... |
12-29-2019, 10:07 AM | #10 |
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Re: 3" drop coil question
I see what your saying abomb. BTW, I'm diggin the red white and blue!
Heres a pick with the coils installed. Still need to add shims and align. |
12-29-2019, 01:56 PM | #11 |
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Re: 3" drop coil question
My 71 gets drove plenty of miles all the time and my tires go 40,50 000 miles with no problems. I taken it on the Hot Rod Power Tour 6 times now, that 3000 miles round trip in 7 days and I've never had a issue.
On another note, I added helper air bags in all 4 coils and man does it ride great. No more bottoming out even when I have all the stuff in the bed for the tour.
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12-29-2019, 07:10 PM | #12 |
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12-29-2019, 11:31 PM | #13 |
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Re: 3" drop coil question
Air Lift is the company. Front bags are part # Part Number: 81560 Rear bags part # 60811
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12-29-2019, 08:54 PM | #14 |
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Re: 3" drop coil question
Looks good Abomb.
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12-30-2019, 02:47 PM | #15 |
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Re: 3" drop coil question
3" front and rear, no issues aligning after replacing the other worn parts.
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