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04-07-2020, 08:37 PM | #1 |
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Wing window fail!
When I painted my truck last year I got new wing windows from LMC Truck. I don't know where they get their parts, but they rusted after 6 months, and have never sealed correctly! The glass doesn't even seat against the rubber on the back, had to add some black tape to help seal it.
Anyway, I was wondering if anyone has some pics of their wing windows, so I know how they are supposed to sit. I may rip these apart and rebuild them, but it's my daily. Prob will just get some OEM ones and call it. First though, I'd like to see what it's supposed to look like from the outside. The pics I have found in a Google search were pretty low res, but looks like my glass sits crooked in the frame in the Y axis both leaning in towards the cab, and back at the top. Here are some pics of my 1 year old, rusty, brand new repop wing windows. (Caviat - I do live at the coast, but my old wing windows weren't even close to as rusty after 50 years of use) |
04-07-2020, 08:49 PM | #2 |
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Re: Wing window fail!
Yeah, the quality of most chrome plating leaves a lot to be desired. When I had my Blazer on the road, I had to use chrome polish on the aftermarket bumper every couple of months to keep the tiny rust spots down.
I feel for you. Aside from the money, that's a lot of work to put in.
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04-07-2020, 10:46 PM | #3 |
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Re: Wing window fail!
I wound up rebuilding a pair of vent windows that I found on Craig's List. That might be a good option for a daily driver.
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04-08-2020, 06:43 PM | #4 |
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Re: Wing window fail!
Yours look like they fit much tighter. At the bottom looks like mine are about 1/4" higher than yours, and they just seem to fit the window frame better. Yea I'm grabbing a pair of OEMs, I have had no luck with repop parts for my C10. Ironically the parts I have bought as repops for my 65 Mustang have fit great. Go figure.
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04-08-2020, 07:25 PM | #5 |
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Re: Wing window fail!
That's ridiculous. I'd be calling up LMC Truck and requesting my money back.
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04-08-2020, 08:57 PM | #6 |
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I agree, but I bought it back in Sept 2018, but didn't get them installed until prob May of last year. Not sure after this long they would do anything. At $210 a pop, they weren't the most expensive ones I could find, but combine that with the money to replace them, I probably could have gotten the really nice ones they guy sells on here.
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04-08-2020, 08:59 PM | #7 |
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I just went through rebuilding mine.
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04-08-2020, 09:09 PM | #8 |
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Man, i really don’t like to hear these accounts of how Poor Quality the aftermarket parts are.
I had to replace a Wing window, because the pivot broke loose from the frame (it was that way when I bought the truck 28 years ago). I was patient looking, but finally found a replacement out of a truck in a salvage yard. Factory. The quality of some factory parts cannot be reproduced. I hope that you come to a resolution on your ordeal. |
04-08-2020, 09:13 PM | #9 |
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Mine looked like that when I put them in, just didn't fit like that.... I'm sure they don't deafen you with wind noise either
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04-09-2020, 03:38 PM | #10 |
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For you guys that have restored these, if I get an OEM pair and polish out the chrome, what would you suggest to protect it? I doubt clear coat would stick, but I'd like to do something since I live at the coast and it's gonna rust no matter what I do!
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04-09-2020, 05:35 PM | #11 |
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I knew the re-pops were probably not the best quality but wow, those are bad. I clear powder coated my polished aluminum wheels and they have held up great over the last 4 years or so. All the vents I rebuild I powder coat. Powder coat clear should last on those, however you always run the risk of it de-laminating over time.
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04-09-2020, 05:51 PM | #12 |
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Re: Wing window fail!
Seeing as where you live, have you thought about a set of original black painted frames? As your truck is black, I think it'd look pretty good and then you wouldn't have to worry as much.
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04-09-2020, 06:09 PM | #13 | |
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FWIW I sent LMC an email today about it with pics and my invoice attached. Not sure they will even reply, but hell worth a shot. I drive the truck every day, would be nice to use my stereo again. Can't hear it over the wind noise. BAH! |
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04-13-2020, 02:09 PM | #14 |
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Re: Wing window fail!
I see your drip rail already has some rust in it and your mirrors are rusted. Was all this "new" at the same time? I thought stuff rusted fast here.
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And honestly the drip rail could mean I just didn't seal as well as I should. First "real" paint job I have done. Learning experience I've learned I hate painting! |
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04-14-2020, 05:33 PM | #16 | |
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I always laugh when I see these car shows getting their big shipment of LMC boxes. Yeah like joe Martin or dave kindig are putting that crap on $100,000 builds!
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04-18-2020, 12:06 PM | #17 | |
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Yea, sticking to OEM. I know that will dry up at some point, but hopefully no time soon!!! I wanna keep driving my truck! |
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05-04-2020, 07:57 PM | #18 |
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Re: Wing window fail!
Guys if i remember right precision rebuilds the vent windows
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05-20-2020, 11:25 PM | #19 |
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So I swapped in the wing windows I bought from burnem. Here are the new vs old pics. You can see how different the repro frame shapes are! The bottom of the gasket was almost 1/2" short on the repros, so it looks like the glass was short by that much on both! Insane how bad the quality is for the LMC parts!
Took a test drive and it's sooooooo much quieter. I could even listen to my stereo clearly. |
05-20-2020, 11:27 PM | #20 |
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Re: Wing window fail!
After pics:
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