I am 17 and need a little so called guidance - The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network

ben88 · 10-24-2012, 12:30 AM

Hi Guys,
I am new to the forum and i am going to have a few questions. I have a 1968 chevy c 10 stepside which untill this weekend has a 6-cyl with a granny 4-spd. This up coming weekend i am pulling the 6 and granny because it is already sold. I built a 350 sbc and just picked up a muncie. Now my question is, once i get the motor and tranny (meaning the 350 and muncie) in place what do i do about the shifter because i heard something about it hitting the bench seat and the shifter being to short.

Thanks for any help in advance

BlackedOut67shorty · 10-25-2012, 05:36 AM

First off welcome to the forum

. and your right about the shifter, there are shifters that were made for the bench seat. Ive seen it in catologs for chevelles and ect. But they can some times be very pricy. heres a link to one for a four speed http://www.classicchevy.com/chevy-be...1955-1957.html. hope this helps

Andy4639 · 11-03-2012, 12:42 AM

You can also have the seat redone with a u shape put where the shifter hit's it. A buddy of mine did this and it work very well in his truck.
Another choice is before installing the shifter have a truck stick welded on it so it clears the seat.

SS Tim · 11-03-2012, 03:15 AM

Have you searched the site much? There are a number of factors that need to be addressed in doing a I6 to V-8 swap. The engine sits in a different position on the frame. As a result the engine stands and mounts are different from the I6 parts. The transmission crossmember is manual transmission and from what I understand I6 specific as well. At a minimum it would need to be moved forward to the correct factory V-8 location. Of course if you are using a car trans. an auto. trans type crossmeber and mount could probably be adapted after pulling the other. The bellhousing has mount provisions you might need so don't sell it until you know for sure. The important thing is to plan the changes instead of bolting in parts and then trying to adapt clutch parts or create a hole off the shelf headers will not fit into. There is whole thread on that. Cooling issues as well need to be on your list.

Might start by reading this.
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=442919

toms84ss · 11-03-2012, 08:35 PM

Hurst made replacement sticks for bench seats in cars if you already have a
Hurst shifter. If not you may be able to drill new mounting holes to fit what ever shifter you are using.

hugger6933 · 11-03-2012, 08:47 PM

I have no help to offer you but I would like to welcome you to the website. There are a lot of nice guys/ladies on here that are very knowledgeable about the chevrolet trucks and what they need to be safer stronger better.Most if not all are willing to lend a hand and words or encouragement to help get you going and keep you going on your project. Jim

Shyguy · 11-03-2012, 08:51 PM

Like said above going from a L6 stick shift to a V-8 stick shift does require some mods.

V-8 stands need to be used. The rear cross member will need to be trimmed and moved forward if you use the L6 cross member. The clutch linkage bracket for a L6 and V-8 are different and the V-8 bracket will have to be moved forward on the frame.

A radiator with more cores may be needed.

A V-8 fan shroud will be required.

The driveshaft will have to modified.

These are just a few things we learned when replacing a L6 with a V-8 454.

67-72C10 · 02-17-2013, 10:01 PM

When I did my 350 swap I used the 6 cyl bellhousing that was in the truck.I removed the 6 cyl engine mount bracket (the one from the motor to the rubber mount) and used the stock 6 cyl rubber engine mount on the V8.The bellhousing side mounts like a 55-57 chevy.I used the 6 cyl flywheel,clutch,etc.The only thing I had to change was my exhaust manifolds.The later model one that go under the spark plugs hit the engine stand.I used the old style ramhorn ones (they go over the spark plugs) from the 60's.Everything was bolt in.As for the shifter ,I heated it down where it came thru the floor and pushed it forward.Then after it cooled,I heated it about 4" up in front of the seat and pulled it back some.(I left the trans in 2nd gear and left a little clearance, make sure the seat all the way forward)

Steve

CG · 02-17-2013, 11:10 PM

Looks like the OP signed up, logged on for a few days, asked one question and hasnt been back. Weird.

LSUMurse · 02-17-2013, 11:17 PM

Maybe he's getting his "so called guidance" somewhere else.

DesertCat · 02-18-2013, 01:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CG

Looks like the OP signed up, logged on for a few days, asked one question and hasnt been back. Weird.

That's okay, we'll continue on anyway and this will be the best thread ever!

oklalawnboy · 02-18-2013, 12:49 AM

He IS 17 maybe a girl stopped by............

CG · 02-18-2013, 02:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oklalawnboy

He IS 17 maybe a girl stopped by............

LOL, this is probably the right answer =)

**yote1234** · 02-18-2013, 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CG

LOL, this is probably the right answer =)

must of been the right girl! its been 4 months! ....no girl could take me away from my truck!... well i might be able to name a few! hehehhe

DesertCat · 04-24-2013, 01:56 PM

The suspense is killing me! What happened to the OP? Who was this mystery girl?

Anyone else here feeling used and unappreciated?

cubber · 02-18-2013, 02:50 AM

Aww, he's probably rollin' around listenin' to Dwight Yoakam and Buck Owens records, and shiftin' with vice grips!

10-24-2012, 12:30 AM	#1
ben88 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Long Beach, CA Posts: 24	I am 17 and need a little so called guidance Hi Guys, I am new to the forum and i am going to have a few questions. I have a 1968 chevy c 10 stepside which untill this weekend has a 6-cyl with a granny 4-spd. This up coming weekend i am pulling the 6 and granny because it is already sold. I built a 350 sbc and just picked up a muncie. Now my question is, once i get the motor and tranny (meaning the 350 and muncie) in place what do i do about the shifter because i heard something about it hitting the bench seat and the shifter being to short. Thanks for any help in advance

10-25-2012, 05:36 AM	#2
BlackedOut67shorty Registered User Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: error 404 location not found Posts: 816	Re: I am 17 and need a little so called guidance First off welcome to the forum . and your right about the shifter, there are shifters that were made for the bench seat. Ive seen it in catologs for chevelles and ect. But they can some times be very pricy. heres a link to one for a four speed http://www.classicchevy.com/chevy-be...1955-1957.html. hope this helps __________________ 1995 s10 blazer 4.3 1967 c10 350/350 fleet short 1993 s10 blazer 4.3l 4l60 RIP 6/20/14 2000 mercury sable Thats a how I roll

11-03-2012, 12:42 AM	#3
Andy4639 Old member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Liberty, & Garden City S.C. , U.S. Posts: 19,945	Re: I am 17 and need a little so called guidance You can also have the seat redone with a u shape put where the shifter hit's it. A buddy of mine did this and it work very well in his truck. Another choice is before installing the shifter have a truck stick welded on it so it clears the seat. __________________ 1971 LWB Custom, 6.0LS & 4L80E, Speedhut.com GPS speedometer & gauges with A/C. 20" Boss 338's Grey wheels 4 wheel disc brakes. My Driver Seeing the USA in a 71 Upstate SC GM Truck Club 2013,14 and 2016 Hot Rod Pour Tour http://upstategmtrucks.com/ Get out and drive the truck this summer and have some fun! It sucks not being able to hear! LWB trucks rule, if you don't think so measure your SWB! After talking to tech support at Air Lift I have found out that the kit I need is 60811. Per the measurements I gave them. Ride height of truck inside spring and inside diameter of springs.

11-03-2012, 03:15 AM	#4
SS Tim Registered User Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Edwards, CA Posts: 7,503	Re: I am 17 and need a little so called guidance Have you searched the site much? There are a number of factors that need to be addressed in doing a I6 to V-8 swap. The engine sits in a different position on the frame. As a result the engine stands and mounts are different from the I6 parts. The transmission crossmember is manual transmission and from what I understand I6 specific as well. At a minimum it would need to be moved forward to the correct factory V-8 location. Of course if you are using a car trans. an auto. trans type crossmeber and mount could probably be adapted after pulling the other. The bellhousing has mount provisions you might need so don't sell it until you know for sure. The important thing is to plan the changes instead of bolting in parts and then trying to adapt clutch parts or create a hole off the shelf headers will not fit into. There is whole thread on that. Cooling issues as well need to be on your list. Might start by reading this. http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=442919 __________________ Thanks, Tim * VIN/Model Decoders * Power Team Charts (engine/transmission/gear ratio) * Post Your Pickup SPID Blazer SPID Suburban/Panel SPID * RTFM ... Read The Factory Manuals... download 'em here Highlanders Do you have a 1972 Plaid Pickup? Plaid Blazer ** Plaid Suburban

11-03-2012, 08:35 PM	#5
toms84ss Registered User Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Arizona Posts: 121	Re: I am 17 and need a little so called guidance Hurst made replacement sticks for bench seats in cars if you already have a Hurst shifter. If not you may be able to drill new mounting holes to fit what ever shifter you are using.

11-03-2012, 08:47 PM	#6
hugger6933 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Marianna Arkansas Posts: 7,279	Re: I am 17 and need a little so called guidance I have no help to offer you but I would like to welcome you to the website. There are a lot of nice guys/ladies on here that are very knowledgeable about the chevrolet trucks and what they need to be safer stronger better.Most if not all are willing to lend a hand and words or encouragement to help get you going and keep you going on your project. Jim

11-03-2012, 08:51 PM	#7
Shyguy Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Southeast Missouri Posts: 2,436	Re: I am 17 and need a little so called guidance Like said above going from a L6 stick shift to a V-8 stick shift does require some mods. V-8 stands need to be used. The rear cross member will need to be trimmed and moved forward if you use the L6 cross member. The clutch linkage bracket for a L6 and V-8 are different and the V-8 bracket will have to be moved forward on the frame. A radiator with more cores may be needed. A V-8 fan shroud will be required. The driveshaft will have to modified. These are just a few things we learned when replacing a L6 with a V-8 454. __________________ '67 Chevy C-20 short stepper - build complete, 454/SM-465. '75 C-30 Single Cab DRW-350 small block/NP-435. '77 GMC-6500 Dump Truck, 427 Tall Deck. '92 GMC K-3500 Duallie, 454/4L80E.

02-17-2013, 10:01 PM	#8
67-72C10 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Northern Harford county,Md. Posts: 41	Re: I am 17 and need a little so called guidance When I did my 350 swap I used the 6 cyl bellhousing that was in the truck.I removed the 6 cyl engine mount bracket (the one from the motor to the rubber mount) and used the stock 6 cyl rubber engine mount on the V8.The bellhousing side mounts like a 55-57 chevy.I used the 6 cyl flywheel,clutch,etc.The only thing I had to change was my exhaust manifolds.The later model one that go under the spark plugs hit the engine stand.I used the old style ramhorn ones (they go over the spark plugs) from the 60's.Everything was bolt in.As for the shifter ,I heated it down where it came thru the floor and pushed it forward.Then after it cooled,I heated it about 4" up in front of the seat and pulled it back some.(I left the trans in 2nd gear and left a little clearance, make sure the seat all the way forward) Steve

02-17-2013, 11:10 PM	#9
CG BlahBlahBlah Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Wa. Posts: 19,985	Re: I am 17 and need a little so called guidance Looks like the OP signed up, logged on for a few days, asked one question and hasnt been back. Weird. __________________ … … … … … … … … ... … … … … … … … … … … …

02-17-2013, 11:17 PM	#10
LSUMurse Registered User Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: New Orleans, La Posts: 406	Re: I am 17 and need a little so called guidance Maybe he's getting his "so called guidance" somewhere else. __________________ It's not that I am apathetic, I just don't care. If your life is a joke, it appears death will be your punchline.

02-18-2013, 12:49 AM	#12
oklalawnboy Registered User Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Glencoe Alabama Posts: 510	Re: I am 17 and need a little so called guidance He IS 17 maybe a girl stopped by............ __________________ 72 Cheyenne super 10 08 3500 HD 4dr dually 12 ford flex (wifes ride) 76 Monte Carlo 83 Chevy short wide Silverado 96 Mazda Miata, 2000 Allegro Bus

04-24-2013, 01:56 PM	#15
DesertCat Registered User Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Valley of the Sunstroke, Arizona Posts: 1,210	Re: I am 17 and need a little so called guidance The suspense is killing me! What happened to the OP? Who was this mystery girl? Anyone else here feeling used and unappreciated? __________________ My build thread - Devastation and Reform http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=567131

02-18-2013, 02:50 AM	#16
cubber Registered User Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Leanna, TN Posts: 2,061	Re: I am 17 and need a little so called guidance Aww, he's probably rollin' around listenin' to Dwight Yoakam and Buck Owens records, and shiftin' with vice grips! __________________ =MATTHEW 69 Stepper...Stroked & Bagged GONE BUT NOT FORGOTTEN 2003 Chevrolet Z71 Ext. Cab 1995 Cavalier gas saver!



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