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Old 03-10-2010, 09:43 PM   #1
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Sticky situation

I thought I would be brave and pull out the front windshield and replace it since I had luck with the rear (but the stainless molding was a pain). I found the La Brea Tar Pits under the gasket. It looks like they used the sticky stuff for gasketless windows to keep it from leaking? Is there any easy way to get this stuff off? On the good side, the rust is less than I expected for all the leaking the window did.
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Old 03-10-2010, 09:46 PM   #2
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Old 03-10-2010, 09:52 PM   #3
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4 inch grinder with a wire wheel and face shield. Then clean up with lacquer thinner.
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Old 03-10-2010, 10:50 PM   #4
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Second for the grinder and some time invested.
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Old 03-10-2010, 10:53 PM   #5
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Good old liquid butyl.......Engine gasket scrapper will work about as good as anything, spray it with a foaming glass cleaner and it will not be as sticky.
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Old 03-11-2010, 02:15 AM   #6
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Re: Sticky situation

Thanks guys,
I'll try the grinder with the wire wheel. Just hope I don't track any butyl in the house or I'll be sleeping in the cab without the windshield.

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Old 03-11-2010, 04:46 AM   #7
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I'll try the grinder with the wire wheel. Just hope I don't track any butyl in the house or I'll be sleeping in the cab without the windshield.

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Re: Sticky situation

I need to replace my gacket too if you dont mind I would like to know whos gasket you got and how things go mine has the trim also...I had it out to repair the rust but the gasket is shot to say the least....I have done a few windshields with a piece of #10 wire and plenty of sylicone..

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Old 03-14-2010, 02:11 PM   #9
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Re: Sticky situation

Thanks LockDoc and Jeffs70. I bought a tube of 3M all around auto body sealer for the seams and almost have the old all dug out (dental pick time). Also, do I put the molding in the gasket before or after the window is in the truck? And is it easier to start the rope from the top or the bottom of the gasket?
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I always start the wire on the bottom its much easier to work the top near the end and when you place the glass the bottom is half done already....

but I want to hear about the seam choice ...I don't want to do mine again either and with my new interior I would just asoon not have it leak and risk breaking it a second time
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Thanks LockDoc and Jeffs70. I bought a tube of 3M all around auto body sealer for the seams and almost have the old all dug out (dental pick time). Also, do I put the molding in the gasket before or after the window is in the truck? And is it easier to start the rope from the top or the bottom of the gasket?
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Here's for the trim from GMCPaul:

Install trim in rubber seal and make sure its fully seated in its groove then install rubber on glass and again make sure trim stayed fully seated in seal, then install windshield.

Deluxe windshield seal with trim, always use a 71-72 seal with 71-72 SS trim, and 67-70 always use a 67-70 seal with SS deluxe trim.
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There two styles of trim and each one takes a different rubber seal. That is what Paul is talking about above. I would suggest at least 3 people to install a windshield with trim, 4 would be better.

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Deluxe windshield seal with trim, always use a 71-72 seal with 71-72 SS trim, and 67-70 always use a 67-70 seal with SS deluxe trim.


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It looks like I have the 71-72 trim for my 67-70 seal on my 70 truck. The groove is not deep enough for the trim. What luck. Can I use a 71-72 seal without any leaking issues (Maybe that's why there was so much butyl around it). It would be cheaper than getting new stainless. Or can I just leave the trim out and go without bling? I knew I should have saved the bag.
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It looks like I have the 71-72 trim for my 67-70 seal on my 70 truck. The groove is not deep enough for the trim. What luck. Can I use a 71-72 seal without any leaking issues (Maybe that's why there was so much butyl around it). It would be cheaper than getting new stainless. Or can I just leave the trim out and go without bling? I knew I should have saved the bag.
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The seals are the same except for the depth of the groove.

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Old 03-15-2010, 10:39 PM   #14
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Re: Sticky situation

I just installed my windshield two weeks ago with help from the glass guy (I say that cause the glass guy wasn't doing a very good job). We had to put the rubber around the glass first, then install the trim into the rubber. After that we started with rope in the groove. We started at the top center and pulled the upper corners in first. The glass guy had said that most people leave the top for last and that usually breaks the glass. The top corners don't flex much and its easier to put them in first, than work your way down the sides and then bottom. It took the two of us about 3-4 hours to get in installed with the trim. (It took the glass guy an hour fooling with the rubber trying to get it and the trim installed onto the glass. It was alot easier to put rubber on, then the trim then install).
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