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Hooker Headers 2455
Well after lots of reading and searching for my hew headers for BB lowered trucks, I went for the Chevelle Hooker Headers Part # 2455-1HKR they had been touted as a good fit for our trucks, and that they ran quite close to frame rail height for lowered trucks with a BB.
YES they ran close to frame rail height, but NO they do not fit, the passenger side has no issues, the drivers side was a no go, they hit the frame and are obstructed badly by the oil filter, I could have removed the filter, and cut a half moon out of the frame, but I still wouldn't have been able to reinstall my filter. I live in the UK and have to go that extra mile to make sure that what I order is correct as there is absolutely no chance of returning an item, these $405 headers cost me $760 so this is exactly what I try so hard to avoid they're now up for sale, and I have to start looking again.
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Re: Hooker Headers
I'm not understanding the oil filter part, thew filter is in the same spot regardless of what the engine is in. Right?
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Re: Hooker Headers
It's beyond me,all I know is that when I tried to lift the header up from under the truck on the DS it wedged itself between the frame and oil filter one of the primary was against the filter and another was against the frame, no amount of persuading was going to get it in without damaging the ceramic coating.
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Re: Hooker Headers
I'm not sure about the lowered part, but I have Sanderson headers on my 496 and they fit no problem. They do stick below the frame about 3-4" though
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Re: Hooker Headers
Im just disappointed as I wanted to stick with Hooker, I could have bought truck headers from them, but they would have hung way below the frame just like my old ones which is what im trying to eliminate.
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Re: Hooker Headers
Did you consider shorty headers or even mid length?
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Re: Hooker Headers
Is it possible to run a short filter on a bbc like on a sbc? I know sbc there are a short and long filters... what about a remote filter?
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Re: Hooker Headers
I have a set of Sanderson ceramic coated for a Chevelle. I believe they are mid lenght. Pass side is perfect, driver side has plenty of clearance the only problem is the collector on it points straight down. Going to try to get shop to bend it. Otherwise, these are great. they exit at frame level, so I can tuck pipes alongside frame. I can't stand that hanging down below look.
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Re: Hooker Headers
Oil filter relocation kit, problem solved.
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Re: Hooker Headers
I have the hooker 2455-2 headers and they fit purfect I can take more pics if needed
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Re: Hooker Headers
Thanks 68350, Yes I am now looking at Sanderson BB8's, and Hedman, I spoke to tech guy at Sanderson and asked if they had some installed pics and he sent me 4 links to our forum were people had used them
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Thanks again guys.
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Re: Hooker Headers
yep, screw the adapter on and run lines to a new filter location. Here's a basic relocation kit from Summit but there are others out there. Search around as some kits are better than others in both quality and features.
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/sum-g4985-1/overview/ Then clearance the frame a bit. Sorry to hear the issues. With logistic issues costing you so much some frame alterations may be cheaper and easier than selling and shipping an already costly set of headers. Good luck with it.
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Re: Hooker Headers
I've posted this many times. In regard to long tube Chevelle headers, the Hedman 68198 is the way to go on a lowered truck. They tuck up tighter than the Hooker 2455's and fit well. I had to clearance the engine bracket on my motor mounts (I'm using '72 BB stands) but everything else fit.
Sorry to hear you had trouble with the Hookers - an expensive mistake for sure. http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s....php?p=6176293 http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=533692 This info is obviously a little late...
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Re: Hooker Headers
WOW, looking at the picture above I do not think they tested the headers on an engine that ran (meaning had an oil filter). I had hooker headers in my 1966 GTO with the stock 389 and hated them. They ran right under the oil filter, when I changed the oil there was like 1mm of space between the headers and the filter after it was unscrewed from the block. That was a minor annoyance but the killer was they leaked in multiple places and nothing I did could fix that. They finally came out for a set of Doug Thorley Tri-Y headers which fit better and had no leaks.
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One thing about these old rigs is making things fit the way we want them. Even if it means using parts made for other vehicles. It does suck that that the OP is across the Atlantic Ocean and has all the shipping costs to incur along with limited availability with a lot of parts over in the UK. I hope he can get it all sorted out for his truck. I think it's cool as all get out that some cats in other countries are fixing up these trucks. ![]() One thing about headers... I have a buddy building a wicked Pro Street 1967 Camaro with a 8-71 Blown 496 BBC. He has custom rack and pinion steering in with a custom steering shaft as well. Also, it and tubular control arms. I stopped by his place one day and he was sitting there on his shop stool with the drivers side header in his lap looking at the engine compartment. He had the front sheet metal (front clip) removed from the car. He had just received his new custom made headers from Lemons Headers the day prior. I asked him, "Whatcha doin' Barry?" He looked at me, then looked at the car... looked back at me and sadly said, "Contemplating cutting up a $3,000 dollar set of headers to make 'em fit around this f#@%$!% steering shaft." After 3 months... he did end up cutting them and refabricating them to make them fit. ![]() Gary
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Re: Hooker Headers
I run 2455s in my 69 and i cant get them in or out without pulling the bolts in the mounts and lifting the engine up a bit with the cherry picker. Its alot of work but they look so good when they are in. The only fitment issue i had was the control arm like in your pic. I did beat them in just a bit so they wouldn't rub. Not what i wanted to do but if i remember right i had to beat a tube in when i put them on my chevelle as well, and they were made to fit that.
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