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roughedup72 · 10-27-2006, 01:19 PM

I was at the local pic and pull last week and stumbled across this huge green caddy, So I decided I would go over and pop the hood just to see what lay beneith it, WOW everything, The whole nine yards, engine tranny and all the goodies. Wish I had the money to buy the whole car.

**truckdude239** · 10-27-2006, 01:25 PM

be good to have i know longhorn has one in his truck

Longhorn Man · 10-27-2006, 04:00 PM

You'll never want a small block in your daily driver again if you do it

ghetto_superman · 10-27-2006, 04:34 PM

hehehe i cant wait to do mine!! just gotta get the frame and cab done first!

bean · 10-27-2006, 05:31 PM

what year caddy works for our trucks? I'm interested in doing this swap.

ghetto_superman · 10-27-2006, 05:39 PM

longhorn is the guru on this subject.. i just know what my parts car is. '72 eldorado w/w 500!'

though whenever andy looks at this, i know its not needed really because the engine is already a torque monster, but what crank does a guy need to make it into a 570 stroker? just for shock factor? would it be worth it?

(sorry for the thread theft)

Longhorn Man · 10-27-2006, 07:57 PM

a 570? While I don't pay much attention to the strokers becouse of the stupid money involved... I don't recall ever hearing of that.

There's enough shock value when you open the hood and they see that huge motor in there.
For example... here is a truck with just another lame ass small block;

Now, look at this;

That air filter is not being used anymore, that was just to keep the mouse poop outta the carb. Hell, that whole engine is gone now, that was the old 425. Got a 500 in there now.

ghetto_superman · 10-27-2006, 08:10 PM

oh yes and it is a thing of beauty.
yea i really dont know much about the stroker thing either, just heard from some guy who pry didnt know what he was talking about.. cause to make a stroker, dont ya have to put in the crank out of a bigger inch model, into the smaller inch engine? I HAVE NO IDEA! and the 500 is the biggest production one made from what ive heard.. so it definitely sounds like mad money dumping to get there. .. i guess ill stick with 'normal' 500!

BTW is that factory style cruise in there? always considered that mod, but didnt know if it was more trouble than it was worth on a non-daily driver...

Longhorn Man · 10-27-2006, 08:15 PM

yeah, that's stock cruise controll parts there.
You can get aftermarket cranks for the 500 to stroke it... but 70 cubes is askin a lot.
The 500 is the largest CID GAS engine in post WW II engines.

Baradium · 10-27-2006, 09:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Longhorn Man

yeah, that's stock cruise controll parts there.
You can get aftermarket cranks for the 500 to stroke it... but 70 cubes is askin a lot.
The 500 is the largest CID GAS engine in post WW II engines.

You asked for it.

Make that largest CID gas engine in passenger vehicles.

IH made a 549 CID gasser. V8, but the block on one of those LVs weighs about 2000 lbs. That engine later become the DV 549 and DV 551.

I also believe there were some even larger gasoline engines in big trucks availible in the 600+ CID range. Just speaking of post WWII production. Diesel engines were starting to come out in the 50s, but they weren't yet *that* widespread.

I belive there were even I-6 motors of over 500 CID after WWII.

ghetto_superman · 10-27-2006, 09:07 PM

ok.. i gotcha.

Longhorn Man · 10-27-2006, 10:51 PM

my fault... yes, car engines.

you're right... I did kinda ask for it.

Jayss109 · 10-27-2006, 11:32 PM

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bigbluthng · 10-27-2006, 11:43 PM

damn, you guys got me in a panic to hurry up and get my suspension done so i can drop in the engine and have my k/500

Longhorn Man · 10-27-2006, 11:43 PM

Very nice Jason...now you just gotta get rid of that K&N filter and get one on there that'll actually stop more than bricks and birds.

Longhorn Man · 10-27-2006, 11:47 PM

doin a 4X4 with a 500? If so, I want pics and details, I get Q's about it all the time, and the one guy who had done it has vanished from the internet.

bigbluthng · 10-28-2006, 12:10 AM

no, i converted the blazer to 2wd. my point for using the 500 was shock factor, the weight advantage of it over a big block chevy and the fact that i can say i got a k/500. a 4wd caddy powered blazer would be an interesting rig.

Jayss109 · 10-28-2006, 03:40 AM

you run all paper air filters Andy?
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*trkklr77* · 10-28-2006, 04:39 AM

i have a 500 caddy [up for grabs] and i dont fully get the "shock" factor. yes it is 500 ci but the factory valve spring is like 60lbs, i can full on hit the v/s with my bare hand and commpress it. they will float valves at 4500rpm and are insanely $$$$$ to buy parts for.

i will take a bbc with no frame or mount mods any day.

Longhorn Man · 10-28-2006, 05:46 AM

some people don't understand...that's cool.
Yes, paper air filters. That K&N isn't cleaning the air much at all.

chevybill · 10-28-2006, 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Longhorn Man

some people don't understand...that's cool.
Yes, paper air filters. That K&N isn't cleaning the air much at all.

Would you please explain your viewpint on this?
I would like to hear your reasons, referring to the K and N air filters.

Longhorn Man · 10-28-2006, 05:39 PM

Simple, lab tests show that they suck.
You can see the side effects at home too.
New engine, chainge the oil, it'll come out pretty clean. Add the K&N, and the oil will come out dirtier.
Also, think about it... they say it works better after it gets a little dirty... that's becouse the dirt is clogging the huge holes in the filter media. Also, how would it improve HP? Only way... to increase air flow. Only way to increase air flow.. let more through.
You could also ask any independant oil lab... they'll tell you that K&N totally sucks.
It's kinda like the fram oil filters... it won't void your warranty, and it PROBABLY won't hurt your engine.... just shorten it's life a little.

jacobs · 10-28-2006, 05:53 PM

Large trucks (18 wheelers) only use pleated paper air filters. If there was something better and less expensive ie reusable, they would be using it. Their engines and down time are too expensive to be using inferior products on. Take a lesson from them.

If you want more air flow, install a larger element or stack two of them.

Blue85 · 10-28-2006, 06:32 PM

Are there any dress up parts for the big caddy engines? I know the old saying chrome dont get ya home, but i like shiney things.

Longhorn Man · 10-28-2006, 09:17 PM

There are cheap chrome valve covers, and any air filter will work on the carb... then there are some super duper expensive alluminum ones that are VERY nice.

10-27-2006, 01:19 PM	#1
roughedup72 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: south carolina Posts: 658	found a 500 caddy engine. I was at the local pic and pull last week and stumbled across this huge green caddy, So I decided I would go over and pop the hood just to see what lay beneith it, WOW everything, The whole nine yards, engine tranny and all the goodies. Wish I had the money to buy the whole car. __________________ 1972 chevy cheyenne 10,nothing special at the moment,Its a work in progress, Working on the engine, paint and body,engine, paint and body,now its the suspenion, ahh hell I'm about tired of working on it. Maybe it will be a rat rod.

10-27-2006, 01:25 PM	#2
truckdude239 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Lewisville, Nc Posts: 10,237	Re: found a 500 caddy engine. be good to have i know longhorn has one in his truck __________________ David fuller Ase Certified Mechanic Click here to help support our board!! 1971 Chevy c-10 under going a 4.8l LSx swap Build Thread http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=421305 2007 Honda Accord my daily 145kmiles 2002 Honda Accord 4 door With 330k(sisters car) 2005 toyota Avalon 228k( brothers car) 2002 Sububran 5.3 245k 2000 Tahoe 5.3l 378 General manager for Marco's Carwash & lube

10-27-2006, 04:00 PM	#3
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,693	Re: found a 500 caddy engine. You'll never want a small block in your daily driver again if you do it

10-27-2006, 04:34 PM	#4
ghetto_superman Registered User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Omaha, NE Posts: 1,982	Re: found a 500 caddy engine. hehehe i cant wait to do mine!! just gotta get the frame and cab done first!

10-27-2006, 05:31 PM	#5
bean Registered User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Fort Worth, TX Posts: 920	Re: found a 500 caddy engine. what year caddy works for our trucks? I'm interested in doing this swap.

10-27-2006, 05:39 PM	#6
ghetto_superman Registered User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Omaha, NE Posts: 1,982	Re: found a 500 caddy engine. longhorn is the guru on this subject.. i just know what my parts car is. '72 eldorado w/w 500!' though whenever andy looks at this, i know its not needed really because the engine is already a torque monster, but what crank does a guy need to make it into a 570 stroker? just for shock factor? would it be worth it? (sorry for the thread theft) Last edited by ghetto_superman; 10-27-2006 at 05:40 PM.

10-27-2006, 07:57 PM	#7
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,693	Re: found a 500 caddy engine. a 570? While I don't pay much attention to the strokers becouse of the stupid money involved... I don't recall ever hearing of that. There's enough shock value when you open the hood and they see that huge motor in there. For example... here is a truck with just another lame ass small block; Now, look at this; That air filter is not being used anymore, that was just to keep the mouse poop outta the carb. Hell, that whole engine is gone now, that was the old 425. Got a 500 in there now.

10-27-2006, 08:10 PM	#8
ghetto_superman Registered User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Omaha, NE Posts: 1,982	Re: found a 500 caddy engine. oh yes and it is a thing of beauty. yea i really dont know much about the stroker thing either, just heard from some guy who pry didnt know what he was talking about.. cause to make a stroker, dont ya have to put in the crank out of a bigger inch model, into the smaller inch engine? I HAVE NO IDEA! and the 500 is the biggest production one made from what ive heard.. so it definitely sounds like mad money dumping to get there. .. i guess ill stick with 'normal' 500! BTW is that factory style cruise in there? always considered that mod, but didnt know if it was more trouble than it was worth on a non-daily driver...

10-27-2006, 08:15 PM	#9
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,693	Re: found a 500 caddy engine. yeah, that's stock cruise controll parts there. You can get aftermarket cranks for the 500 to stroke it... but 70 cubes is askin a lot. The 500 is the largest CID GAS engine in post WW II engines.

10-27-2006, 09:07 PM	#11
ghetto_superman Registered User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Omaha, NE Posts: 1,982	Re: found a 500 caddy engine. ok.. i gotcha.

10-27-2006, 10:51 PM	#12
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,693	Re: found a 500 caddy engine. my fault... yes, car engines. you're right... I did kinda ask for it.

10-27-2006, 11:32 PM	#13
Jayss109 Active Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 235	Re: found a 500 caddy engine. Some more eye candy Jason http://web.mac.com/jason_hall/iWeb/T...%20photos.html ________ Prilosec withdraw Last edited by Jayss109; 04-27-2011 at 11:41 PM.

10-27-2006, 11:43 PM	#14
bigbluthng Registered User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: canyon country, ca, USA Posts: 336	Re: found a 500 caddy engine. damn, you guys got me in a panic to hurry up and get my suspension done so i can drop in the engine and have my k/500 __________________

10-27-2006, 11:43 PM	#15
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,693	Re: found a 500 caddy engine. Very nice Jason...now you just gotta get rid of that K&N filter and get one on there that'll actually stop more than bricks and birds.

10-27-2006, 11:47 PM	#16
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,693	Re: found a 500 caddy engine. doin a 4X4 with a 500? If so, I want pics and details, I get Q's about it all the time, and the one guy who had done it has vanished from the internet.



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10-28-2006, 12:10 AM	#17
bigbluthng Registered User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: canyon country, ca, USA Posts: 336	Re: found a 500 caddy engine. no, i converted the blazer to 2wd. my point for using the 500 was shock factor, the weight advantage of it over a big block chevy and the fact that i can say i got a k/500. a 4wd caddy powered blazer would be an interesting rig. __________________

10-28-2006, 03:40 AM	#18
Jayss109 Active Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 235	Re: found a 500 caddy engine. you run all paper air filters Andy? ________ Fisting tubes Last edited by Jayss109; 04-27-2011 at 11:42 PM.

10-28-2006, 04:39 AM	#19
trkklr77 Account Suspended Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: vacaville ca, because it as far from indy as i can be Posts: 777	Re: found a 500 caddy engine. i have a 500 caddy [up for grabs] and i dont fully get the "shock" factor. yes it is 500 ci but the factory valve spring is like 60lbs, i can full on hit the v/s with my bare hand and commpress it. they will float valves at 4500rpm and are insanely $$$$$ to buy parts for. i will take a bbc with no frame or mount mods any day.

10-28-2006, 05:46 AM	#20
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,693	Re: found a 500 caddy engine. some people don't understand...that's cool. Yes, paper air filters. That K&N isn't cleaning the air much at all.

10-28-2006, 05:39 PM	#22
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,693	Re: found a 500 caddy engine. Simple, lab tests show that they suck. You can see the side effects at home too. New engine, chainge the oil, it'll come out pretty clean. Add the K&N, and the oil will come out dirtier. Also, think about it... they say it works better after it gets a little dirty... that's becouse the dirt is clogging the huge holes in the filter media. Also, how would it improve HP? Only way... to increase air flow. Only way to increase air flow.. let more through. You could also ask any independant oil lab... they'll tell you that K&N totally sucks. It's kinda like the fram oil filters... it won't void your warranty, and it PROBABLY won't hurt your engine.... just shorten it's life a little.

10-28-2006, 05:53 PM	#23
jacobs Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: 9000' Mountain Man Posts: 326	Re: found a 500 caddy engine. Large trucks (18 wheelers) only use pleated paper air filters. If there was something better and less expensive ie reusable, they would be using it. Their engines and down time are too expensive to be using inferior products on. Take a lesson from them. If you want more air flow, install a larger element or stack two of them. Last edited by jacobs; 10-28-2006 at 05:56 PM.

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10-28-2006, 09:17 PM	#25
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,693	Re: found a 500 caddy engine. There are cheap chrome valve covers, and any air filter will work on the carb... then there are some super duper expensive alluminum ones that are VERY nice.

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