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iehotrod · 07-19-2011, 01:09 AM

So I found the interior panel for $250 in town. The guy wants an additional $200 to install it for a total of $450. He says he did it to his own truck So I yet inspect it. It does not include the glass or rubber no biggie.

What do you all think should I go for it is it a good deal? does anyone know an expert in southern california?

**jocko** · 07-19-2011, 05:12 AM

i do not know an expert in socal - but I say GO FOR IT!!! Big Windows Rock. But I could be partial. By the way - SWEET truck!

iehotrod · 07-19-2011, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by jocko

i do not know an expert in socal - but I say GO FOR IT!!! Big Windows Rock. But I could be partial. By the way - SWEET truck!

Thanks!

Woogeroo · 07-19-2011, 06:11 AM

http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=358955

http://www.picturetrail.com/sfx/album/view/20880305

tooslo60 · 07-19-2011, 06:19 AM

DO IT!!!!!!

That truck is too beautiful for that little tiny ugly slider.

iehotrod · 07-21-2011, 01:39 AM

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Originally Posted by tooslo60

DO IT!!!!!!

That truck is too beautiful for that little tiny ugly slider.

Your right I dont like the way it looks but when the cab gets hot it's to have it open. But I still rather have a big back window.

**Clyde65** · 07-19-2011, 08:11 AM

$200 for install, If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is.

I was quoted over $1k for install without paint. I changed my mind.

I would definately inspect his b4 agreeing to anything. but I also wouldnt do it, if he screws it up, your stuck with the results.

John Gilbert · 07-19-2011, 10:40 AM

Two-hundred bucks in So Cal buys a little over two hours of shop labor. I know guys can work out of their driveway for a lot less, but who would want to work for 5-bucks an hour? I'd say baloney.

Here's a link to the story I did while we converted my '66 to a BBW. Also an after shot from the follow-up story in the following issue.

Hope this sheds a little more light on the subject... Sorry I couldn't resist, that's a little big rear window humor... pretty bad huh?

http://www.customclassictrucks.com/t...ion/index.html

chevyrestoguy · 07-19-2011, 11:36 AM

I remember reading that article that John did. It's more work than it appears. Still, I would go look at the guy's truck and see how good of a job he did on the install. I have known some guys who have no clue on how to accurately estimate a job, and always wind up nearly working for free. This might be one of those cases. Never hurts to look, but remember, if his is already bodyworked and either in paint or primer, there might be some ugly work hiding under there. Bondo can hide a multitude of sins.

Let us know what you find out. I like your truck!

SFTorange · 07-19-2011, 01:30 PM

I just had mine done by my local body guy. It took him about 12 hours to remove the interior panel and install the new bbw panel. He had never done one before, but he is a very experienced body man. I also paid about $250 for my panel. If his work checks out, I'd say go for it. I think it's a pretty straight forward job. When you look at his truck, see if he maintained the factory seam between the bbw panel and the roof panel. That might be a good way to gauge the quality of his work.

Good Luck!

Frizzle Fry · 07-19-2011, 09:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John Gilbert

Two-hundred bucks in So Cal buys a little over two hours of shop labor. I know guys can work out of their driveway for a lot less, but who would want to work for 5-bucks an hour? I'd say baloney.

Here's a link to the story I did while we converted my '66 to a BBW. Also an after shot from the follow-up story in the following issue.

Hope this sheds a little more light on the subject... Sorry I couldn't resist, that's a little big rear window humor... pretty bad huh?

http://www.customclassictrucks.com/t...ion/index.html

So how did the inner panel turn out after finishing?

64fleetside · 07-19-2011, 09:52 PM

I have had both trucks, since its summertime I really miss the small window shade.

IMO, I'd lose the tiny slider & keep the small window. Only $200 scares me, knowing the skill/work it takes to make the inside look right.

flips72 · 07-19-2011, 10:14 PM

if its on the up and up i would definitely do it, you will love it. its one of the best things i have done to my truck so far. oh and by the way,great looking truck.

John Gilbert · 07-21-2011, 01:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Frizzle Fry

So how did the inner panel turn out after finishing?

I'm sure it will look good if I ever finish it. I'm working on rack & pinion steering right now for a story. As soon as that gets finished I'd like to get back on the inside panel... there'll be some Bondo I'm sure.

iehotrod · 07-21-2011, 01:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John Gilbert

I'm sure it will look good if I ever finish it. I'm working on rack & pinion steering right now for a story. As soon as that gets finished I'd like to get back on the inside panel... there'll be some Bondo I'm sure.

Any pics you sure with us.

firefighter736 · 07-19-2011, 01:59 PM

When I saw this thread all I could think of was this other thread I read on the Paint and Body board

http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=473440

iehotrod · 07-19-2011, 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by firefighter736

When I saw this thread all I could think of was this other thread I read on the Paint and Body board

http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=473440

Man this makes me nervous now.

**joedoh** · 07-19-2011, 11:37 PM

thats how I swapped to a BBW, changed the cab.

iehotrod · 07-19-2011, 11:42 PM

I thinking about it. What do people do for id tag?

tooslo60 · 07-20-2011, 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by iehotrod

What do people do for id tag?

Call the DMV. My buddy was issued a new vin and tag for his 36 Ford 5 window in San Diego. He had it inspected at the DMV and got a new tag in the mail.

**joedoh** · 07-20-2011, 12:28 AM

on my 65 there are two on the cab, one barely clinging to the door frame so loosely a putty knife is in danger of popping it off, and a second on the floor just forward of the footwell underneath that is riveted on. the one on the footwell is a thick piece of bar stock. I switched from a 62 cab to a 65 cab so I just used the 65 reg and title.

iehotrod · 07-20-2011, 12:32 AM

Im not sure I could do anything with the original vin number since it will be turn in by the PO

jac70ss · 07-20-2011, 10:58 AM

Before I swapped cabs or paid someone that much $$, I would recommend finding a bbw cab and get the parts (inner panel and glass) you need. I found several at local pull-a-part yards over the year. Any cab from 60-66 will work. Your time is spent removing the panel from the donor and your cab. Nothing difficult, just time consuming. In fact, you will probably take better care removing/prepping the pieces than someone else. Once the panels are removed, place the new BBW inner panel in the cab, you now have a template to cut the opening for the rear glass in your cab. You can then spot or plug weld the panel in around the door, window and along the bottom. I would recommend a panel adhesive for the seam in the ceiling. You can panel bond everything if you wanted. I've seen one done (Flip72) and the exterior paint wasn't damaged. This way you don't run into any issues with the VIN, etc.

**yelmer** · 07-20-2011, 11:13 AM

if anybody needs a big window cab 64-66 i have one for sale in the parts area 725.00 or best fyi

iehotrod · 07-20-2011, 09:46 PM

Yeah some people get weird when you tell them it was re-tagged because of the cab being swapped. I think I am going to just do the inner panel and keep my original cab. It does not have any rust except for one cab support panel and it's very little.

07-19-2011, 01:09 AM	#1
iehotrod Registered User Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Oak Hills, California Posts: 393	Big back window conversion So I found the interior panel for $250 in town. The guy wants an additional $200 to install it for a total of $450. He says he did it to his own truck So I yet inspect it. It does not include the glass or rubber no biggie. What do you all think should I go for it is it a good deal? does anyone know an expert in southern california? Attached Images

07-19-2011, 05:12 AM	#2
jocko Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Godley, TX Posts: 17,976	Re: Big back window conversion i do not know an expert in socal - but I say GO FOR IT!!! Big Windows Rock. But I could be partial. By the way - SWEET truck!

07-19-2011, 06:11 AM	#4
Woogeroo Registered User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: tool box Posts: 3,115	Re: Big back window conversion http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=358955 http://www.picturetrail.com/sfx/album/view/20880305

07-19-2011, 06:19 AM	#5
tooslo60 Registered User Join Date: May 2011 Location: Longview WA Posts: 141	Re: Big back window conversion DO IT!!!!!! That truck is too beautiful for that little tiny ugly slider.

07-19-2011, 08:11 AM	#7
Clyde65 1965 Chevy C10, 2005 4.8L/4l60 Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: DFW Texas Posts: 8,545	Re: Big back window conversion $200 for install, If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is. I was quoted over $1k for install without paint. I changed my mind. I would definately inspect his b4 agreeing to anything. but I also wouldnt do it, if he screws it up, your stuck with the results. __________________ Clyde65 Rebuild of Clyde http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...84#post8338184 69 Aristocrat Lo Liner build http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...84#post7561684 *support our troops!*

07-19-2011, 10:40 AM	#8
John Gilbert Registered User Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Placentia, California Posts: 567	Re: Big back window conversion Two-hundred bucks in So Cal buys a little over two hours of shop labor. I know guys can work out of their driveway for a lot less, but who would want to work for 5-bucks an hour? I'd say baloney. Here's a link to the story I did while we converted my '66 to a BBW. Also an after shot from the follow-up story in the following issue. Hope this sheds a little more light on the subject... Sorry I couldn't resist, that's a little big rear window humor... pretty bad huh? http://www.customclassictrucks.com/t...ion/index.html Attached Images

07-19-2011, 11:36 AM	#9
chevyrestoguy Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: apple valley, ca Posts: 2,670	Re: Big back window conversion I remember reading that article that John did. It's more work than it appears. Still, I would go look at the guy's truck and see how good of a job he did on the install. I have known some guys who have no clue on how to accurately estimate a job, and always wind up nearly working for free. This might be one of those cases. Never hurts to look, but remember, if his is already bodyworked and either in paint or primer, there might be some ugly work hiding under there. Bondo can hide a multitude of sins. Let us know what you find out. I like your truck! __________________ Check out my latest endeavor: https://roundsixpod.com My build threads: '55 Chevy: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=247512 '64 C-20: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=446527

07-19-2011, 01:30 PM	#10
SFTorange Registered User Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Billings, MT Posts: 417	Re: Big back window conversion I just had mine done by my local body guy. It took him about 12 hours to remove the interior panel and install the new bbw panel. He had never done one before, but he is a very experienced body man. I also paid about $250 for my panel. If his work checks out, I'd say go for it. I think it's a pretty straight forward job. When you look at his truck, see if he maintained the factory seam between the bbw panel and the roof panel. That might be a good way to gauge the quality of his work. Good Luck!

07-19-2011, 09:52 PM	#12
64fleetside Registered User Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: arkieland Posts: 1,070	Re: Big back window conversion I have had both trucks, since its summertime I really miss the small window shade. IMO, I'd lose the tiny slider & keep the small window. Only $200 scares me, knowing the skill/work it takes to make the inside look right.

07-19-2011, 10:14 PM	#13
flips72 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: oldfort tn Posts: 1,183	Re: Big back window conversion if its on the up and up i would definitely do it, you will love it. its one of the best things i have done to my truck so far. oh and by the way,great looking truck.

07-19-2011, 01:59 PM	#16
firefighter736 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Floyd/Salem VA Posts: 148	Re: Big back window conversion When I saw this thread all I could think of was this other thread I read on the Paint and Body board http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=473440

07-19-2011, 11:37 PM	#18
joedoh Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Doodah Kansas Posts: 7,774	Re: Big back window conversion thats how I swapped to a BBW, changed the cab. __________________ the mass of men live lives of quiet desperation if there is a problem, I can have it. new project WAYNE http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=844393

07-19-2011, 11:42 PM	#19
iehotrod Registered User Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Oak Hills, California Posts: 393	Re: Big back window conversion I thinking about it. What do people do for id tag?

07-20-2011, 12:28 AM	#21
joedoh Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Doodah Kansas Posts: 7,774	Re: Big back window conversion on my 65 there are two on the cab, one barely clinging to the door frame so loosely a putty knife is in danger of popping it off, and a second on the floor just forward of the footwell underneath that is riveted on. the one on the footwell is a thick piece of bar stock. I switched from a 62 cab to a 65 cab so I just used the 65 reg and title. __________________ the mass of men live lives of quiet desperation if there is a problem, I can have it. new project WAYNE http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=844393

07-20-2011, 12:32 AM	#22
iehotrod Registered User Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Oak Hills, California Posts: 393	Re: Big back window conversion Im not sure I could do anything with the original vin number since it will be turn in by the PO



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07-20-2011, 10:58 AM	#23
jac70ss Registered User Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Murfreesboro TN Posts: 49	Re: Big back window conversion Before I swapped cabs or paid someone that much $$, I would recommend finding a bbw cab and get the parts (inner panel and glass) you need. I found several at local pull-a-part yards over the year. Any cab from 60-66 will work. Your time is spent removing the panel from the donor and your cab. Nothing difficult, just time consuming. In fact, you will probably take better care removing/prepping the pieces than someone else. Once the panels are removed, place the new BBW inner panel in the cab, you now have a template to cut the opening for the rear glass in your cab. You can then spot or plug weld the panel in around the door, window and along the bottom. I would recommend a panel adhesive for the seam in the ceiling. You can panel bond everything if you wanted. I've seen one done (Flip72) and the exterior paint wasn't damaged. This way you don't run into any issues with the VIN, etc.

07-20-2011, 11:13 AM	#24
yelmer Registered User Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: greeley colorado Posts: 1,360	Re: Big back window conversion if anybody needs a big window cab 64-66 i have one for sale in the parts area 725.00 or best fyi

07-20-2011, 09:46 PM	#25
iehotrod Registered User Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Oak Hills, California Posts: 393	Re: Big back window conversion Yeah some people get weird when you tell them it was re-tagged because of the cab being swapped. I think I am going to just do the inner panel and keep my original cab. It does not have any rust except for one cab support panel and it's very little.

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