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BillyBob84K5 · 02-28-2002, 11:37 PM

I've had JBA shorties on my truck for about a year now. And, recently, they've been eating the #3 cylinder wire, and the wire acrs to the header. I've been through about 3 sets of wires, and I'm going to be using some boot protectors and some heli-core multiangle MSD wires. I need to know how or what I can use to stop these wires and boots from melting and arcing, since the straight boot is almost right ontop of the header tube.

gchemist · 03-01-2002, 07:17 AM

BillyBob84K5,

Try using some 90 degree wires. Use wire looms too. I've had not used headers before but I think the two options should help.

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Gerardo
1983 Custom Truck
TX Plates: "BAD BOW"
http://www.geocities.com/abetterchemist/

low 84 · 03-01-2002, 12:08 PM

Hey Billybob84k5,
What is the part number for those headers and where did you get them?

I'm looking for a set of shorties for my 84 siverado cause its lowered.

Are they ceramic coated and how much $$$

thanks for any help

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Pot holes are my enemy

'84 1\2 ton swb, 350 5\7 drop

just sold '64 1\2 ton
4\4 drop with built 350 (my toy)

**swervin ervin** · 03-04-2002, 07:30 PM

I suggest running them under the headers. It may not look as cool but it will stop the burning wires.

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Mike

1985 Chevy C-10
Mike's 73-87 Chevy Pickup Site

[This message has been edited by swervin ervin (edited March 04, 2002).]

Longhorn Man · 03-04-2002, 11:21 PM

Never had a problem with 90 degree boots and looms on my rig. I would think that routing them under the header would cause the rubber to get brittle quicker from all the heat...I could be wrong, just something I have always suspected.

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'69 G.M.C. 350/350. Trying to clean up the left over damage from the Dope-Smokin-Old-Man
I've been dubbed the Longhorn Freak/Fanatic/Expert, I just hope I can live up to it.
Need to pick up the one ton Longhorn with a PONTIAC 350/350soon.
Thanks every one!

Check out The Longhorn Webite.
If you need a pic posted, E-mail me at longhornmail@yahoo.com
Andy, in Columbus Ohio

**swervin ervin** · 03-05-2002, 06:03 PM

Nope, not the case. Most shorty headers have the tubes built in a quirky way to where it makes it tough to keep the boots/wires off of them. I had no choice with my Edelbrock TES headers because the A.I.R. tubes were in the way on top. Besides that, heat rises for the most part and with my headers being ceramic coated they run cooler anyway. I bad wanted my wires over the top with some nice wire looms, but now after mine being under, I like it better. It sure is nice not having to remove wires when you need to work on the top.

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Mike

1985 Chevy C-10
Mike's 73-87 Chevy Pickup Garage

gchemist · 03-06-2002, 07:08 AM

I'm just drooling over the engine pics. Can't wait to get mine looking like y'alls.

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Gerardo
1983 Custom Truck
TX Plates: "BAD BOW"

Chevyman69 · 03-08-2002, 11:37 AM

On my 92 I have Edelbrock 6656 TES's, but without any emission crap like Swervin has to deal with. I found that using the factory looms and wires works the best, 90 degree boots and loomed as stock my wires never get anywhere near the primary tubes. BTW very nice looking engines guys, especially with Swervin cause usually all that emmission stuff looks terrible, but that looks awesome.

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69 CST 10, 402, steel crank, heavy rods, Federal Mogul Forged Pistons, 9.9:1 compression, polished ported 781 heads 2.19/1.88 manley stainless valves, Crane Powermax Hydraulic roller 288/296 and .587,.610 lift, hardened pushrods, Crane Roller Rockers, Weiand Action Plus, 750CFM Rochester QJET, MSD HEI, MSD 8MM Wires, Dynomax Ceramic coated headers, should be about 500 H.P. 700R4 2500 stall, pretty nasty shift kit, 373 Auburn Pro Series Posi, buckets/console air/tilt/tach 4wheel discs

Daily Driver: 92 Chev Reg Cab LWB Silverado 4x4, loaded, 350 Accel filter/cap/rotor/coil/AC Delco wires/AC Delco RapidFire plugs, Edelbrock intake and headers, 180 degree thermostat, Hypertech Thermomaster Chip, true duals 700R4 with B@M Shift Kit for now!

Longhorn Man · 03-09-2002, 01:34 PM

I always forget about the emissions you guys deal with, I am actually into the '67 - '72 trucks. What little crap they have, hits the floor as soon as I get them(if it hasn't been done already).

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'69 G.M.C. 350/350. Trying to clean up the left over damage from the Dope-Smokin-Old-Man
I've been dubbed the Longhorn Freak/Fanatic/Expert, I just hope I can live up to it.
Need to pick up the one ton Longhorn with a PONTIAC 350/350soon.
Thanks every one!

Check out The Longhorn Webite.
If you need a pic posted, E-mail me at longhornmail@yahoo.com
Andy, in Columbus Ohio

02-28-2002, 11:37 PM	#1
BillyBob84K5 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Dumont, NJ Posts: 4	JBA shorties eating wires I've had JBA shorties on my truck for about a year now. And, recently, they've been eating the #3 cylinder wire, and the wire acrs to the header. I've been through about 3 sets of wires, and I'm going to be using some boot protectors and some heli-core multiangle MSD wires. I need to know how or what I can use to stop these wires and boots from melting and arcing, since the straight boot is almost right ontop of the header tube.

03-01-2002, 07:17 AM	#2
gchemist BAD BOW-Silverado XST Join Date: May 2000 Location: Senior Member from Austin, TX Posts: 6,431	BillyBob84K5, Try using some 90 degree wires. Use wire looms too. I've had not used headers before but I think the two options should help. ------------------ Gerardo 1983 Custom Truck TX Plates: "BAD BOW" http://www.geocities.com/abetterchemist/ __________________ Gerardo a.k.a. Mad Chemist Silverado XST videos

03-04-2002, 07:30 PM	#4
swervin ervin You get what you pay for Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Cherryville, NC Posts: 4,798	I suggest running them under the headers. It may not look as cool but it will stop the burning wires. ------------------ Mike 1985 Chevy C-10 Mike's 73-87 Chevy Pickup Site [This message has been edited by swervin ervin (edited March 04, 2002).] __________________ Mike 1985 Chevy C-10

03-05-2002, 06:03 PM	#6
swervin ervin You get what you pay for Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Cherryville, NC Posts: 4,798	Nope, not the case. Most shorty headers have the tubes built in a quirky way to where it makes it tough to keep the boots/wires off of them. I had no choice with my Edelbrock TES headers because the A.I.R. tubes were in the way on top. Besides that, heat rises for the most part and with my headers being ceramic coated they run cooler anyway. I bad wanted my wires over the top with some nice wire looms, but now after mine being under, I like it better. It sure is nice not having to remove wires when you need to work on the top. ------------------ Mike 1985 Chevy C-10 Mike's 73-87 Chevy Pickup Garage __________________ Mike 1985 Chevy C-10

03-06-2002, 07:08 AM	#7
gchemist BAD BOW-Silverado XST Join Date: May 2000 Location: Senior Member from Austin, TX Posts: 6,431	I'm just drooling over the engine pics. Can't wait to get mine looking like y'alls. ------------------ Gerardo 1983 Custom Truck TX Plates: "BAD BOW" __________________ Gerardo a.k.a. Mad Chemist Silverado XST videos

03-01-2002, 12:08 PM	#3
low 84 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 2,144	Hey Billybob84k5, What is the part number for those headers and where did you get them? I'm looking for a set of shorties for my 84 siverado cause its lowered. Are they ceramic coated and how much $$$ thanks for any help ------------------ Pot holes are my enemy '84 1\2 ton swb, 350 5\7 drop just sold '64 1\2 ton 4\4 drop with built 350 (my toy) __________________ '51 F100, backhalf with a narrowed 9 and coil overs, 18.5" mickeys, monte front clip, +400" sbc in the works '05 1500 Crew Cab RIP '84 swb 5/7 drop, solid cammed 408 w/ fully ported dart heads, th350 w/ 10 inch hughes, 12 bolt w/ 3.73 richmonds and a locker '80 swb 4x4 in progress: 7" lift, 350 th350/np205, d44 and 1.5" ORD tie rod, 14BFF w/discs , armored diff covers, 40" MTR's

03-04-2002, 11:21 PM	#5
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,693	Never had a problem with 90 degree boots and looms on my rig. I would think that routing them under the header would cause the rubber to get brittle quicker from all the heat...I could be wrong, just something I have always suspected. ------------------ '69 G.M.C. 350/350. Trying to clean up the left over damage from the Dope-Smokin-Old-Man I've been dubbed the Longhorn Freak/Fanatic/Expert, I just hope I can live up to it. Need to pick up the one ton Longhorn with a PONTIAC 350/350soon. Thanks every one! Check out The Longhorn Webite. If you need a pic posted, E-mail me at longhornmail@yahoo.com Andy, in Columbus Ohio

03-08-2002, 11:37 AM	#8
Chevyman69 Vortec 350's Suck Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Pickardville Alberta Canada Posts: 544	On my 92 I have Edelbrock 6656 TES's, but without any emission crap like Swervin has to deal with. I found that using the factory looms and wires works the best, 90 degree boots and loomed as stock my wires never get anywhere near the primary tubes. BTW very nice looking engines guys, especially with Swervin cause usually all that emmission stuff looks terrible, but that looks awesome. ------------------ 69 CST 10, 402, steel crank, heavy rods, Federal Mogul Forged Pistons, 9.9:1 compression, polished ported 781 heads 2.19/1.88 manley stainless valves, Crane Powermax Hydraulic roller 288/296 and .587,.610 lift, hardened pushrods, Crane Roller Rockers, Weiand Action Plus, 750CFM Rochester QJET, MSD HEI, MSD 8MM Wires, Dynomax Ceramic coated headers, should be about 500 H.P. 700R4 2500 stall, pretty nasty shift kit, 373 Auburn Pro Series Posi, buckets/console air/tilt/tach 4wheel discs Daily Driver: 92 Chev Reg Cab LWB Silverado 4x4, loaded, 350 Accel filter/cap/rotor/coil/AC Delco wires/AC Delco RapidFire plugs, Edelbrock intake and headers, 180 degree thermostat, Hypertech Thermomaster Chip, true duals 700R4 with B@M Shift Kit for now! __________________ 69 Chev CST 10 reg cab lwb Daily Driver: 92 Chev Reg Cab LWB Silverado 4x4, K.I.A 7:51 AM 04/22/03 Will be resurrected

03-09-2002, 01:34 PM	#9
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,693	I always forget about the emissions you guys deal with, I am actually into the '67 - '72 trucks. What little crap they have, hits the floor as soon as I get them(if it hasn't been done already). ------------------ '69 G.M.C. 350/350. Trying to clean up the left over damage from the Dope-Smokin-Old-Man I've been dubbed the Longhorn Freak/Fanatic/Expert, I just hope I can live up to it. Need to pick up the one ton Longhorn with a PONTIAC 350/350soon. Thanks every one! Check out The Longhorn Webite. If you need a pic posted, E-mail me at longhornmail@yahoo.com Andy, in Columbus Ohio



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