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Old 03-18-2010, 06:36 PM   #1
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4spd Advice?

Recently picked up a 68 gmc 350/4spd 2wd lwb straight out of the barn, numbers matching all original.. spent about 30 mins got it running.. but not streetable yet..

Anyways, question.. it has a stocker Muncie SM465 .. and my question is to those who run them.. worth keeping it? I pulled mine yesterday to get at the tunnel for some cleaning up and the tranny is leaking from every where possible.. worth the rebuild? Or should I be looking at going with another tranny format? np435 or heading auto 700r4? t400 etc...

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Old 03-18-2010, 06:47 PM   #2
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Re: 4spd Advice?

It's up to your personal preference. Last SM465 I rebuilt ran me about 75 dollars for the parts. One thing is for sure, you're not going to ever tear the 4 speed up unless you really try to do it. GM never used a stronger manual trans in a light truck.

You just have to ask yourself whether you will be happy with a clunky truck transmission or whether you want an auto or auto with overdrive.
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Old 03-18-2010, 07:10 PM   #3
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Re: 4spd Advice?

Thanks for the reply, yeah im thinking at the cost of what it will be to rebuild, why not.. plus I think if I went auto id miss the sloppy old beast... plus within posts I decided to check the rear end out, looks like someone along the lines replaced the rear end... ive figured 4.11 gearing .. guess I won't be seeing any hwy's anytime soon..

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It's up to your personal preference. Last SM465 I rebuilt ran me about 75 dollars for the parts. One thing is for sure, you're not going to ever tear the 4 speed up unless you really try to do it. GM never used a stronger manual trans in a light truck.

You just have to ask yourself whether you will be happy with a clunky truck transmission or whether you want an auto or auto with overdrive.
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Old 03-18-2010, 08:13 PM   #4
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Re: 4spd Advice?

a turbo 350 is not too hard to swap in
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Old 03-18-2010, 09:36 PM   #5
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Re: 4spd Advice?

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Thanks for the reply, yeah im thinking at the cost of what it will be to rebuild, why not.. plus I think if I went auto id miss the sloppy old beast... plus within posts I decided to check the rear end out, looks like someone along the lines replaced the rear end... ive figured 4.11 gearing .. guess I won't be seeing any hwy's anytime soon..
FWIW, I have 4.10s behind the SM420 in my '67. It'll do 65-70 no problem but that's at about 3200 RPM. Gas mileage is laughable at that speed, but hey, it's neat to watch people give me a wide berth I roar down the road.

I like my creeper gear in traffic too. The Caprice likes to surge ahead in stop-and-go traffic, but the truck idles along in first. I barely have to touch the clutch.

Definitely keep the 4spd.
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Old 03-18-2010, 09:17 PM   #6
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Re: 4spd Advice?

I have a SM 465 in my '67, and it's pretty cool - I like driving around with it. I would keep it if I were you.
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Old 03-18-2010, 11:38 PM   #7
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The 465 is a good trans. They built them forever. Much better trans than my 420 in my '67 k20. Way cooler than an auto!!
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Old 03-19-2010, 04:57 PM   #8
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It is a tough trans. but are hard to o-haul. If it's just leaking it is easy to put seals in.
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