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70CST204x4 · 01-09-2008, 04:16 PM

I have a 1970 CST 20 4x4 350 2bl Olive green no power options no gauges dummy lights 4 speed factory bucket seat (not installed) with console has a headliner door panels are viynl one is coming apart got a cargo light and bottom trim also has three gas tanks but missing the driver side under bed the original selector for them still works pretty straight for what it is some rust and dents no pics at the moment

ChevLoRay · 01-09-2008, 04:33 PM

Yours is probably the ONLY one like it. There were a bunch of them at one time, but I'll bet there ain't another one "just like yours", now

Seriously, I find that there were 6,124 of the KS20934 body style, that is an 8-ft long, 127-inch wheelbase, 4WD built. The CST option was found on 10% of the total production, but may be a lot less than that for a truck like yours.

So, in the big picture, I would say yours is a rare truck. Forgive my humor, please. I'm old.

70CST204x4 · 01-09-2008, 04:36 PM

what would be the value on one

69halfton · 01-09-2008, 04:45 PM

sounds more or less like a barebones no options truck.

except maybe for the buckets...but even then.

...it also depends on the market your in.

if it was in PERFECT condition, id prolly give you maybe ...1500 bucks.

and i mean IMMACULATE.

ChevLoRay · 01-09-2008, 04:53 PM

www.nada.com has a section that lets people look up vehicle values. For older vehicles, there's a lot of variables. Used to be a magazine called "Old Cars" that put out quarterly editions that were value guides. They had a rating system that started out with a 5 on the low end of the scale, up to a 1 on the high end. 5's were just about good for parts only. 1's were top-notch vehicles....like new. Most of what you describe would be a 4, on their grading scale. 4's ran, and were essentially complete, but needed some work to be average, like a 3 would be. 2's were very good, not the best, but generally just needed some cosmetics or minor mechanical attention to be a 1.

70CST204x4 · 01-09-2008, 05:13 PM

i didnt know nada done that for older trucks like that my luck it would not show anything for mine but i'll check it out thanks alot ChevLoRay

**70cst** · 01-09-2008, 05:23 PM

Always remember that famous saying "Rare doesn't always mean desirable". Sounds like a nice truck with the CST package which is trim, and it had or has buckets...3/4 ton lwb trucks are not as desirable as 1/2 ton trucks. 4 speed for some is not as desirable as automatics. But it's a 4x4 which to many is a plus. The key is...if you like it then that is what is important. Like I said...it sounds like a nice truck.

70CST204x4 · 01-09-2008, 05:39 PM

thanks 70cst your right on that saying i ve just never seen or heard of one

**WorkinLonghorn** · 01-09-2008, 05:57 PM

If it is in fact a 2 brl then I think it would be a non-stock carb because they were all 4brl.

70CST204x4 · 01-09-2008, 06:07 PM

Workin i did not know that the original motor was a 2bl
truck had been sitting for long time everything looked right before i messed with it thanks for the info

**68350** · 01-09-2008, 07:18 PM

I BELIEVE there may have been some 2 bbl trucks built from factory. I know there is a 396 2 bbl truck on the boards, so it's possible. As for a price, without pics, I would say 1000-1200 range without seeing it. hope this helps

PanelDeland · 01-09-2008, 07:24 PM

Someone on the board has a quote for this type question.
"Rare does not always mean desirable.For instance it's rare that I crap my pants but not usually desirable."

djracer · 01-09-2008, 08:11 PM

70CST204x4 What part of bama you from? Sounds like a nice truck.

**WorkinLonghorn** · 01-09-2008, 08:26 PM

68350;"

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I BELIEVE there may have been some 2 bbl trucks built from factory. I know there is a 396 2 bbl truck on the boards, so it's possible. As for a price, without pics, I would say 1000-1200 range without seeing it. hope this helps

Well if it is a 2bbl from the factory I guess that would be a perfect example of the "rare doesn't equal valuable" statement. "Super rare, low horsepower 2 Bbl option!"

**special-K** · 01-10-2008, 01:07 AM

Yes,a CST K/20 is a rare truck.There weren`t many CST K/20 made.There were 2bbl carbs on 350s.Alot of guys are prefering the 4spd over an automatic in 4wds these days.It`s especially desirable being coupled with bucket seats.That makes you truck rare right there.I`ve seen loaded trucks and Suburbans with idiot lights.
It would be tiugh to put a value,but no less than $3,000 if it`s about solid.

Longhorn Man · 01-10-2008, 01:43 AM

Values will fluctuate greatly depeinding on local markets.
While yes, that truck is fairly rare, it would be a little less desirable to most people. Either way, it sounds like a real neat rig.

Huck · 01-10-2008, 02:33 AM

The only rare and extremely valuable 67-72 truck is the rust free one!!!!

djracer · 01-10-2008, 02:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Huck

The only rare and extremely valuable 67-72 truck is the rust free one!!!!

Now you are talking RARE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

68C15 · 01-10-2008, 03:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Huck

The only rare and extremely valuable 67-72 truck is the rust free one!!!!

and un-molested.

**special-K** · 01-10-2008, 03:04 AM

When someone asks if something is rare,why do so many answer on the value and not the rarity?Not every "is it rare" question is to get a dollar value.Something can be rare and have nothing to do with money.What`s worth the most money is rare "and" popular.In some cases,the rarer things aren`t worth as much money because so few are aware of them so there`s no market.

**68350** · 01-10-2008, 08:55 AM

cst/20 4x4 I would consider "rare"(I don't like the word!) or hard to find, factory bucket seats I would also consider htf, 4 speed not so much, and the headliner, etc all came with the cst package. Overall, I would say this pickup is unusual and uncommon(hard to find) because of the options thrown together on it. I have NEVER seen a 4 speed bucket seat pickup, but have heard of them, so that along with the cst package(most probably ordered automatics with the fanciest package you could get), and the fact it's just overall unusual as heck, that's what makes it hard to find. if you post some pics, I think everyone could give a better opinion on price, because condition matters a LOT!!

streetstar · 01-10-2008, 09:06 AM

4 speed is a good tranny on a 4-by if you actually want to use it -- i can't see that as a detriment on a 3/4 ton 4-by

71 super · 01-10-2008, 09:16 AM

This truck has another rarity in that not only is it a bucket seat truck but it is a four speed bucket seat truck that is also 4x4. The 4x4 trucks supposedly used some type of spacer at the rear of the console which is a hen's tooth. I my opinion if true would make this truck pretty rare overall, as far as price- 4x4 is bringing more money currently but it depends on the shape of the truck and its originality.

01-09-2008, 04:16 PM	#1
70CST204x4 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: ALABAMA Posts: 16	Is this truck rare I have a 1970 CST 20 4x4 350 2bl Olive green no power options no gauges dummy lights 4 speed factory bucket seat (not installed) with console has a headliner door panels are viynl one is coming apart got a cargo light and bottom trim also has three gas tanks but missing the driver side under bed the original selector for them still works pretty straight for what it is some rust and dents no pics at the moment

01-09-2008, 04:33 PM	#2
ChevLoRay Old Skool Club Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Benton, AR "The Heart of Arkansas" Posts: 10,880	Re: Is this truck rare Yours is probably the ONLY one like it. There were a bunch of them at one time, but I'll bet there ain't another one "just like yours", now Seriously, I find that there were 6,124 of the KS20934 body style, that is an 8-ft long, 127-inch wheelbase, 4WD built. The CST option was found on 10% of the total production, but may be a lot less than that for a truck like yours. So, in the big picture, I would say yours is a rare truck. Forgive my humor, please. I'm old. __________________ Member Nr. 2770 '96 GMC Sportside; 4.3/SLT - Daily driven....constantly needs washed. '69 C-10 SWB; 350/TH400 - in limbo The older I get, the better I was. Last edited by ChevLoRay; 01-09-2008 at 04:45 PM.

01-09-2008, 04:36 PM	#3
70CST204x4 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: ALABAMA Posts: 16	Re: Is this truck rare what would be the value on one

01-09-2008, 04:45 PM	#4
69halfton Registered User Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: King City, Ontario, Canada Posts: 974	Re: Is this truck rare sounds more or less like a barebones no options truck. except maybe for the buckets...but even then. ...it also depends on the market your in. if it was in PERFECT condition, id prolly give you maybe ...1500 bucks. and i mean IMMACULATE. __________________ - Jason If you can turn, Youre not going fast enough. Favorite caption: first car to 200 mph in the 1/4 mile, no parachute, drum brakes all the way around.. ..back when men were men.

01-09-2008, 04:53 PM	#5
ChevLoRay Old Skool Club Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Benton, AR "The Heart of Arkansas" Posts: 10,880	Re: Is this truck rare www.nada.com has a section that lets people look up vehicle values. For older vehicles, there's a lot of variables. Used to be a magazine called "Old Cars" that put out quarterly editions that were value guides. They had a rating system that started out with a 5 on the low end of the scale, up to a 1 on the high end. 5's were just about good for parts only. 1's were top-notch vehicles....like new. Most of what you describe would be a 4, on their grading scale. 4's ran, and were essentially complete, but needed some work to be average, like a 3 would be. 2's were very good, not the best, but generally just needed some cosmetics or minor mechanical attention to be a 1. __________________ Member Nr. 2770 '96 GMC Sportside; 4.3/SLT - Daily driven....constantly needs washed. '69 C-10 SWB; 350/TH400 - in limbo The older I get, the better I was.

01-09-2008, 05:13 PM	#6
70CST204x4 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: ALABAMA Posts: 16	Re: Is this truck rare i didnt know nada done that for older trucks like that my luck it would not show anything for mine but i'll check it out thanks alot ChevLoRay

01-09-2008, 05:23 PM	#7
70cst Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: New Madison, Ohio Posts: 21,375	Re: Is this truck rare Always remember that famous saying "Rare doesn't always mean desirable". Sounds like a nice truck with the CST package which is trim, and it had or has buckets...3/4 ton lwb trucks are not as desirable as 1/2 ton trucks. 4 speed for some is not as desirable as automatics. But it's a 4x4 which to many is a plus. The key is...if you like it then that is what is important. Like I said...it sounds like a nice truck. __________________ A husband can be right...or...A husband can be happy. 67-72 Chevy and GMC Trucks...The Classic Truck for the Classic Folk. 1970 CST Two tone green, 402BB, 400 Automatic, Tach, Buckets, AC, AM-FM, Tilt, GM CB, GM 8 Tract, LWB, etc JOHN 17:3...The better side of "LIFE" Remember: Everyday is a good day...Some are just gooder!

01-09-2008, 05:39 PM	#8
70CST204x4 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: ALABAMA Posts: 16	Re: Is this truck rare thanks 70cst your right on that saying i ve just never seen or heard of one

01-09-2008, 05:57 PM	#9
WorkinLonghorn Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Studio City, Calif. Posts: 2,883	Re: Is this truck rare If it is in fact a 2 brl then I think it would be a non-stock carb because they were all 4brl. __________________ '69 GMC C2500 Custom Camper, 8 1/2' bed, New GM 350, NP 435 Close Ratio 4spd. Trans., 3.73 Dana-60 open.Camper and Trailer wiring, PS, PB, AC, tach , three gas tanks, stereo speakers, 2nd owner, Work-Truck supreme.

01-09-2008, 06:07 PM	#10
70CST204x4 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: ALABAMA Posts: 16	Re: Is this truck rare Workin i did not know that the original motor was a 2bl truck had been sitting for long time everything looked right before i messed with it thanks for the info

01-09-2008, 07:18 PM	#11
68350 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Williston, ND Posts: 2,999	Re: Is this truck rare I BELIEVE there may have been some 2 bbl trucks built from factory. I know there is a 396 2 bbl truck on the boards, so it's possible. As for a price, without pics, I would say 1000-1200 range without seeing it. hope this helps __________________ 68 Chevy CST/10, 50th Anniversary, 327/th400, 373 posi, buckets 68 GMC Shortbox Stepside, 402/th400, Tilt, Tach, Bucket Seats, 3.08 Positraction 69 Chevy Camaro SS, 383, 4 speed, positraction 70 Chevy El Camino SS396, Triple Black, 454/th400, Tach 70 Chevy Shortbox Stepside 4x4, 350/th350, Tilt, Tach, Cab Lights, Bumper Guards, Tow Hooks 70 Chevy 3/4 Longbox, 350/auto, 70k, SURVIVOR 71 Chevy Blazer, CST, 350/auto 71 GMC Sierra K2500, 454, 4 speed, 4.10 posi, 37s 71 Custom/30, Open Road, 350/th400, tilt 72 Chevy Shortbox Fleetside, 496 Stroker/th400, Tilt, Tach, Bucket Seats, 3.42 Posi 72 GMC Sierra Grande 2500. 427/th400, tilt, a/c, tool and stowage, buckets/console, 3.54 posi

01-09-2008, 07:24 PM	#12
PanelDeland I am a Referee of life. Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Greensboro N.C. Posts: 13,993	Re: Is this truck rare Someone on the board has a quote for this type question. "Rare does not always mean desirable.For instance it's rare that I crap my pants but not usually desirable." __________________ The 47-present Chevrolet and GMC Truck Message Board Network,it's owners,moderators,members,and associates of any type should not be held responsible for my opinion. You can't fix stupid,not even with duct tape. "My appearance is due to the fact that "GOD" does punish you for having too much fun!" Barrett-Jackson has perfected alchemy,they make rust into gold! "You can lead a horse to water but you can't saddle a duck" "Cleverly disguised as a 'Responsible Adult' "Sometimes your Knight in shining armor is just a retard in tinfoil"

01-09-2008, 08:11 PM	#13
djracer Registered User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Wetumpka, Al, U.S. Posts: 8,891	Re: Is this truck rare 70CST204x4 What part of bama you from? Sounds like a nice truck. __________________ Kevin Special Thanks to All who have helped on the TRUCK! My Pass Time Show http://s129.photobucket.com/albums/p...Chapter1-0.mp4 So Far my best Times are: Motor only: 6.44 1/8 @ 104.13 10.39 1/4 @ 125.83 Nitrous Times: 5.785 1/8 @ 118.65 with a 1.336 60ft 9.168 1/4 @ 142.58 with a 250 shot dead out of the hole!

01-10-2008, 01:07 AM	#15
special-K Special Order Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Mt Airy, MD Posts: 85,852	Re: Is this truck rare Yes,a CST K/20 is a rare truck.There weren`t many CST K/20 made.There were 2bbl carbs on 350s.Alot of guys are prefering the 4spd over an automatic in 4wds these days.It`s especially desirable being coupled with bucket seats.That makes you truck rare right there.I`ve seen loaded trucks and Suburbans with idiot lights. It would be tiugh to put a value,but no less than $3,000 if it`s about solid. __________________ "BUILDING A BETTER WAY TO SERVE THE USA"......67/72......"The New Breed" GMC '67 C1500 Wideside Super Custom SWB: 327/M22/3.42 posi.........."The '67" (project) GMC '72 K2500 Wideside Sierra Custom Camper: 350/TH350/4.10 Power-Lok..."The '72" (rolling) Tim "Don't call me a redneck. I'm a rough cut country gentleman" R.I.P. ~ East Side Low Life ~ El Jay ~ 72BLUZ ~ Fasteddie69 ~ Ron586 ~ 67ChevyRedneck ~ Grumpy Old Man ~

01-10-2008, 01:43 AM	#16
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,693	Re: Is this truck rare Values will fluctuate greatly depeinding on local markets. While yes, that truck is fairly rare, it would be a little less desirable to most people. Either way, it sounds like a real neat rig.



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01-10-2008, 02:33 AM	#17
Huck Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Shelbyville, KY Posts: 3,269	Re: Is this truck rare The only rare and extremely valuable 67-72 truck is the rust free one!!!!

01-10-2008, 03:04 AM	#20
special-K Special Order Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Mt Airy, MD Posts: 85,852	Re: Is this truck rare When someone asks if something is rare,why do so many answer on the value and not the rarity?Not every "is it rare" question is to get a dollar value.Something can be rare and have nothing to do with money.What`s worth the most money is rare "and" popular.In some cases,the rarer things aren`t worth as much money because so few are aware of them so there`s no market. __________________ "BUILDING A BETTER WAY TO SERVE THE USA"......67/72......"The New Breed" GMC '67 C1500 Wideside Super Custom SWB: 327/M22/3.42 posi.........."The '67" (project) GMC '72 K2500 Wideside Sierra Custom Camper: 350/TH350/4.10 Power-Lok..."The '72" (rolling) Tim "Don't call me a redneck. I'm a rough cut country gentleman" R.I.P. ~ East Side Low Life ~ El Jay ~ 72BLUZ ~ Fasteddie69 ~ Ron586 ~ 67ChevyRedneck ~ Grumpy Old Man ~

01-10-2008, 08:55 AM	#21
68350 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Williston, ND Posts: 2,999	Re: Is this truck rare cst/20 4x4 I would consider "rare"(I don't like the word!) or hard to find, factory bucket seats I would also consider htf, 4 speed not so much, and the headliner, etc all came with the cst package. Overall, I would say this pickup is unusual and uncommon(hard to find) because of the options thrown together on it. I have NEVER seen a 4 speed bucket seat pickup, but have heard of them, so that along with the cst package(most probably ordered automatics with the fanciest package you could get), and the fact it's just overall unusual as heck, that's what makes it hard to find. if you post some pics, I think everyone could give a better opinion on price, because condition matters a LOT!! __________________ 68 Chevy CST/10, 50th Anniversary, 327/th400, 373 posi, buckets 68 GMC Shortbox Stepside, 402/th400, Tilt, Tach, Bucket Seats, 3.08 Positraction 69 Chevy Camaro SS, 383, 4 speed, positraction 70 Chevy El Camino SS396, Triple Black, 454/th400, Tach 70 Chevy Shortbox Stepside 4x4, 350/th350, Tilt, Tach, Cab Lights, Bumper Guards, Tow Hooks 70 Chevy 3/4 Longbox, 350/auto, 70k, SURVIVOR 71 Chevy Blazer, CST, 350/auto 71 GMC Sierra K2500, 454, 4 speed, 4.10 posi, 37s 71 Custom/30, Open Road, 350/th400, tilt 72 Chevy Shortbox Fleetside, 496 Stroker/th400, Tilt, Tach, Bucket Seats, 3.42 Posi 72 GMC Sierra Grande 2500. 427/th400, tilt, a/c, tool and stowage, buckets/console, 3.54 posi

01-10-2008, 09:06 AM	#22
streetstar Registered User Join Date: May 2007 Location: Moore, Oklahoma Posts: 2,396	Re: Is this truck rare 4 speed is a good tranny on a 4-by if you actually want to use it -- i can't see that as a detriment on a 3/4 ton 4-by __________________ Are you retired too? Nonsense! I'm in my prime Last edited by streetstar; 01-10-2008 at 09:06 AM.

01-10-2008, 09:16 AM	#23
71 super Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Canton North carolina Posts: 3,081	Re: Is this truck rare This truck has another rarity in that not only is it a bucket seat truck but it is a four speed bucket seat truck that is also 4x4. The 4x4 trucks supposedly used some type of spacer at the rear of the console which is a hen's tooth. I my opinion if true would make this truck pretty rare overall, as far as price- 4x4 is bringing more money currently but it depends on the shape of the truck and its originality.

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