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need help with shocks????
i have a 65 that i lowered 5 inches in the back and have 2 1/2 inch drop spindles with 1 inch lower springs in the front. i was wondering what schoks are being used. am on a budget wanted to see if there was some i can just pick up at the local parts store for the time being. Till i have enough to buy some decent lowering schocks. thanks
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Re: need help with shocks????
You can go the Monroe Monro-Matic Plus route:
Fronts: 33033 Rears: 31000 around $20-$30, depending on where you find them...or, an economical cross reference.
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Re: need help with shocks????
Not to hijack, but aren't the stock rear shocks too long with a 5" drop?
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Re: need help with shocks????
Those are the shocks that are included in the Cool Ride system from Air Ride Technololgies, now Ridetech. IIRC, the rears have a collapsed length of 10 inches, which is about the same as the Nitro/CPP rear shock application for a 5-inch rear drop.
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Re: need help with shocks????
Perfect, Rock Auto has all 4 for under $80, can't beat that!
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Re: need help with shocks????
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Did you relocate the shock mounts? This is the first I have heard about needing to relocate shocks. I'd like to hear from some guys that did not relocate the shocks for some real world experience as to if it is really required. Vendors are pushing product.... and will tell ya to do this or that, when it may not really be necessary. Oh, and a c notch is not mandatory with a 5" drop. I am driving proof of that. Bump stops are a wonderful thing. Thanks in advance. Last edited by lakeroadster; 01-14-2011 at 08:03 PM. |
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Re: need help with shocks????
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No problem...my buddy did not relocate his shock mounts on his '66, and he went with the Montro-Matics because he found the nitro shocks were too stiff of a ride for him. And, he has about a 3-5 static drop.
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Re: need help with shocks????
Are these stock shock numbers or shorter ones that will work for our trucks?
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Re: need help with shocks????
IIRC, these are the stock replacements, but the Monro-Matics have a great deal of travel over other shocks.
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Re: need help with shocks????
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Same kind of story for the front on my truck, the Monroe 33033's will bottom out. Monroe pdf with shock dim's can be found here: Monroe Shock Mounting Length Sheets Monroe-Matic (Rear) P/N 31000 Collapsed Length = 12.000"Here are my measurements (shock mounts are all stock and have not been altered. Stock snubbers have been removed and replaced with custom snubbers) You should compare these measurements to your specific application. : Edit 02-06-2011: Modified upper shock mount (see post #56 of my build thread). Dimensions shown in red below are shock dim's. with the modified upper mounts. Rear: I have 5” CPP lowering springs on the rear. All shock dim’s are from eye to eye:Rear Axle Hanging Free, Tires off the ground: Shock Length = 17-1/2” ---- 16-1/2" Front: Previous Owner heated the stock coil springs. All dim’s are from eye to eye:Edit: 01-24-2011:Front Suspension Hanging Free, Tires off the ground: Shock Length = 14” Here is a reply I received from a Monroe Web Inquiry in regards to my choices above: Also: here is another reply from a Monroe Web Inquiry in regards to Monro-Matic shock installation angles, in the stock positions, mine are 40 degrees off vertical:John, Thank you for contacting Tenneco Automotive. Last edited by lakeroadster; 04-19-2011 at 10:01 AM. |
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Re: need help with shocks????
Damn it's good to have an Engineer on the 60-66 board!
![]() Thanks lakeroadster for all your expertise and help in getting the facts. I just took Early Classics advice when they recommended the special shocks And relocators for my static rear 4" drop. Posted via Mobile Device
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Re: need help with shocks????
thanks...
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Re: need help with shocks????
i run cpp's nitrogen shocks. they're actually doetsch tech nitro slammers. you could shop around but usually run about $40 per. you're gonna spend the money on the shocks anyways, no sense in spending it twice. theyre a little bit stiffer but i like sportier suspension.
sizing chart http://www.classicperform.com/Catalo...hock_Specs.pdf
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Re: need help with shocks????
Have you relocated your shock mounts yet? If not it won't really matter what shocks you use, they don't work well at the angle that a 5" drop creates...just my .02 worth.
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Re: need help with shocks????
Gregg's right, i forgot about that. I too, dropped my rearend 5" and you definitly need to relocate the mounts. as well as a c-notch.
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Re: need help with shocks????
great info
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Re: need help with shocks????
Yes it is! I thought we would have to use aftermarket with 3/4/5 and more drops- I've always like Monroe's. Too bad I already bought my CPP/Doestch. I hope they're not too stiff.
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Re: need help with shocks????
With a static drop, maybe. With bags, I decided to go with the full travel. The lower shocks have less range.
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Re: need help with shocks????
Yeah, sorry, I was talking static drop.
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Re: need help with shocks????
I ran the CPP shock kit on my '69 when I first bagged it but went back to stock to get full lift. I will relocate the mounts on the rear.
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Re: need help with shocks????
Not to HiJack but what is the lowest Static Drop you can go without a C-Notch??? and what kit do you buy for the rear for shock relocation??
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Re: need help with shocks????
I am running 5" drop rear CPP springs without a c-notch. I have about 3-3/4" clearance.
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Re: need help with shocks????
THe stock shock brackets can be modified to relocate the shocks, I can't remember who did a write up on it. I saw it on the suspension forum. I have a 4/5 and don't have a C notch either. My only complaint is my rear shocks are are too firm for my liking(my wife doesn't like it either).
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Re: need help with shocks????
how exactly do the shock relocaters work. do they bring the shocks upright only, or do they also allow move up for more travel because of the drop..
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Re: need help with shocks????
They move the shocks back to a more vertical or upright angle. When the truck is lowered the shocks really lay down at a more horzontal angle and can't operate as intended.
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