Has anyone thought about a Bio-Diesel?

[caminokid]

After seeing a episode of Pimp my ride or something like that...they did a 65 Impala SS with a Bio Diesel in it. It was quick. But i wonder if putting one in a truck ...like a diesel should be...I wonder if you could get the same results. It makes me wonder if it would be worth it for the mileage?? And how hard is it to get the bio diesel for it??

[caminokid]

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[Scott68-93-97]

bio diesel is not sold in pure form they only sell at the pumps 5% bio and 15% bio, willie nelson has his own chain of stations selling 100%bio comeing out theres a few now so I here, but you can buy a kit to make your own for under a thousand dollars then make buddies with the guys at mcdonalds and other resturants that have use cooking oil for fries and they'll probably give you the used stuff because they have to pay to throw it out then take it home with your refinery home kit and make some diesel, from what i've seen it works well and makes everyone want to head for the nearest mcdonalds as you drive by.

[68K20 x Drill]

Here we can buy B99 at the pump, but at 6 grand for a used up old Duramax, it will take a LONG time for the conversion to pay for itself.
The Dmax puts out 300HP 500Ftlb ~1000HP 2000Ftlb depending how much you spend on it, so performance should be better than stock.

Note: The diesel engine doesn't give a crap what kind of car or truck it is in, you just have to gear it right.

I have an 85 Volvo wagon that runs on unrefined waste cooking oil (or diesel), and it seems to get about the same milage 20~30 no matter what fuel I run.

[jhow66]

My son (orangeuavol) and I have a 1985 M1009 CUCV Blazer that we use 100% biodiesel in as we make our own. He made his own "still". Works like a charm. Will post pictures of it later. We have one like this.(cost to make runs about $.060 a gallon)

[texanidiot25]

You need to watch Trucks! where they did this.

Frier grease you can pick up free, since it cost resturaunts to get it disposed of. Then its a bit of lye, and methanol racing gas, and you run it through a filtrartion system that uses the lye and methanol to separate the glycerin, thus making a pure bio diesel.

$4 in materials, makes 20 gallons of bio diesel. I think it was freedomfuels.com or freedomfuelsamerica.com

It burns cleaner than diesel, and with none of the normal toxins. Also it will slightly improve MPG and some power, just because its cleaner then typical diesel.

[streetstar]

jhow66 -----

if its .60/gal actual cost---- how much time do you guys spend brewing up a batch? If you factor in the time it takes to pick up the grease, process it , and then get it ready to use.

[texanidiot25]

Maybe a less than a days worth of work, for 20 gallons. Its really not much to it. Far exceeds needing to pay $3 a gallon if you have a diesel.

[cdowns]

a days worth of work to me is at least $150 and doesnt seem worth the effort nor does it support the claim of 6cents a gallon made by jhow66// another questionable thing of makin your own is the coackroach habitat that you establish on your homestead// the more i look read and think of the homemade biofuel the better the neighborhood gaspump looks

[texanidiot25]

Read about it before your criticize it: http://www.freedomfuelamerica.com/products/faq.asp

I dont see how a day will cost you $150. The most you ever do is flip some switches and valves... and a slight bit of chemistry to see what is needed to filter the grease.

[cdowns]

I dont see how a day will cost you $150. The most you ever do is flip some switches and valves... and a slight bit of chemistry to see what is needed to filter the grease.[/QUOTE]


when i chose to work for the day i now doit at a reduced rate now that i'm retired $150 a day

[byrd]

Originally Posted by cdowns

when i chose to work for the day i now do it at a reduced rate now that i'm retired $150 a day

I TOTALLY agree with that statement. My 8 hr day costs the customer around $440/ $55/hr, if my apprentice is with me then it's $600/ $75/hr . I am just an electrician by trade and work for a local union contractor. I am sure there are many others on here that get even more than this per day.
I am not knocking the bio-deisel and the way you guys are saving bread with your labor, but for me I can make more $$$ in the same amount of time that the bio-deisel would save me, and none of the dirty hands from producing it
If you calculated the cost @ $35 per hour which is a conservitive number( that is the amount I charge per hour for side work) then the 2 hrs it takes to produce the bio-deisel(once again conservitive number) you get $70 right there per 20 gallons= $3.50/ gallon with no material cost.

[72 cheyenne pdx]

It only takes about an hour or 2 of actually making the bio-diesel. It takes 6-8 hrs for the glycerine to separate from the bio-diesel.

[centsless]

I attended a bio-diesel seminar here in MD a few weeks back. It was very informative, and I learned a lot about the myths and truths of the product. I think it is awesome that some of you are making your own, and agree that the cost of making your own fuel definately beats paying $3 a gallon. Some of us can afford to spend the time to make it more than we can afford to spend the money on fuel. Some of us dont have the luxury of being retired AND having money to spend

[Dingfodgy]

Originally Posted by centsless

I attended a bio-diesel seminar here in MD a few weeks back. It was very informative, and I learned a lot about the myths and truths of the product. I think it is awesome that some of you are making your own, and agree that the cost of making your own fuel definately beats paying $3 a gallon. Some of us can afford to spend the time to make it more than we can afford to spend the money on fuel. Some of us dont have the luxury of being retired AND having money to spend

Word! If I were to produce my own B-Diesel, I certainly would not use time I should be at work, earning a living, to do it. I'd use the time I normally spend in front of the idiot-box with my thumb up my a$$. Or I might go to bed a 1/2 later than I normally do. Being as the time I would spend brewing my own fuel would be normally unproductive (non-earning) time.....the "rate" is pert-near nothing! So your argument of $35.00 per hour is a dog that just won't hunt.

[eedgell]

Originally Posted by Dingfodgy

Word! If I were to produce my own B-Diesel, I certainly would not use time I should be at work, earning a living, to do it. I'd use the time I normally spend in front of the idiot-box with my thumb up my a$$. Or I might go to bed a 1/2 later than I normally do. Being as the time I would spend brewing my own fuel would be normally unproductive (non-earning) time.....the "rate" is pert-near nothing! So your argument of $35.00 per hour is a dog that just won't hunt.

That works as long as you enjoy bio-fuel brewing as a pass time. If not I have bigger fish to fry. I always say: let those do what they do, and you do what you do. Everyone makes more that way. Plus I have more time for what I really want to do. Messing with someone else's wasted grease to save a few bucks on gas aint my bag.

[caminokid]

I work out of my own garage so it wouldnt be a problem for me. I was thinking about a 72 1 ton converted over to a dually pick up. Then yeah a duramax...get all the HP I could out of it...maybe twin turbos. I know it will cost a butt load of cash...but it would be something different.

[Dingfodgy]

Originally Posted by caminokid

I work out of my own garage so it wouldnt be a problem for me. I was thinking about a 72 1 ton converted over to a dually pick up. Then yeah a duramax...get all the HP I could out of it...maybe twin turbos. I know it will cost a butt load of cash...but it would be something different.

I know the Duramax is a good engine, but the cost is just outrageous! I read an article in Diesel Power Magazine and they picked up a old GM 6.5 Turbo diesel......put in about 2 grand worth of parts to increase the reliability and squeeze a bit more juice out of it and ended up with a pretty hot setup for their project Blazer. I'm certainly not harshin' on the D-Max, but for the same money a guy could build a damned-near bullet proof and powerful 6.2 or 6.5 Detroit.

[cummins]

if yoy are looking for a cheep diesel alternitive i have been runninga mix of 50% diesel or and 50% used motor oil in my powerstroke for a year now. it gets the same mileage, more power annd no smoke. works out to be like $1.30 a gal. i just started running it in my cummins powered 67 chevy crewcab recently.

[eedgell]

Originally Posted by cummins

if yoy are looking for a cheep diesel alternitive i have been runninga mix of 50% diesel or and 50% used motor oil in my powerstroke for a year now. it gets the same mileage, more power annd no smoke. works out to be like $1.30 a gal. i just started running it in my cummins powered 67 chevy crewcab recently.

Did you say '67 crewcab? Any pictures? Hubba Hubba. 4x4?

[cummins]

yes i loades 40 pics in a album on here but am still new and trying to figure this sight out, try looking for me in members under cummins maybe.

[jhow66]

To each his own. We make it in 100 gals batches at a time (end up with 80 gals 100% bio). Yes we do have less then 60 cents per gal in it. Total time in a batch is about 4 working hours. Time costs us "nothing". In fact we actually have nothing in it as we co-op with 2 other guys .

[cdowns]

Originally Posted by jhow66

To each his own. We make it in 100 gals batches at a time (end up with 80 gals 100% bio). Yes we do have less then 60 cents per gal in it. Total time in a batch is about 4 working hours. Time costs us "nothing". In fact we actually have nothing in it as we co-op with 2 other guys .

you listed it as costing 6cents per

when i was taught $1.00=cone dollar/$.60=60cents/$.06=6cents

[jhow66]

Originally Posted by cdowns

you listed it as costing 6cents per

when i was taught $1.00=cone dollar/$.60=60cents/$.06=6cents

See-you made a mistake also--("cone" dollar)

[eedgell]

This is all too good. If everyones time is worth nothing who makes this stuff, then let me sweet'n the pot for you. Be entepreneurial, make this stuff for .60 cents a gallon, people like me will buy it from you for...... $1.20 gal. that doubles your money, or better yet sell it to me for $2.00 gal., I will pay that @ $1.00+ cheap, I will read about you all in Fortune 500. Works for me.