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Old 10-30-2004, 09:08 PM   #1
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AirRide 60-78 Tubular A-Arms write-up...

Not sure if you guys have seen this...click the link then click on "StrongArmed Hauler" and check it out...

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Old 10-30-2004, 09:44 PM   #2
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Not sure if you guys have seen this...click the link then click on "StrongArmed Hauler" and check it out...

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Thanks for the link. My set is in transit. Though I'm a little concerned at how the shock mount appears to be below the rest of the lower arm. If it is, I'll be dragging that off rather quickly
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Old 10-31-2004, 12:48 AM   #3
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Thanks for the link! I spent $250 on a front end kit, $150 for new GM upper/lower cross shafts, and $200 to have my stock arms powder coated. Now, I want these!
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Old 10-31-2004, 06:30 PM   #4
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Well, Darren & I spoke again so my arms are on their way to Stoked Out Specialties on Monday.

I'll put up pics w/the arms & notched c-member installation on my spare swb frame.
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Old 11-01-2004, 04:34 PM   #5
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good info, does anyone know the price of the a-arms without the cool ride kit?
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Old 11-01-2004, 07:42 PM   #6
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$750. That includes new cross shafts & GM 73-87 rubber bushings installed. I confirmed mine left this morning.
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Building a small, high rpm engine with the perfect bore, stroke and rod ratio is very impressive.
It's like a highly skilled Morrocan sword fighter with a Damascus Steel Scimitar.....

Cubic inches is like Indiana Jones with a cheap pistol.
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Old 11-01-2004, 08:04 PM   #7
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WOW! $750!

That just confirms my thoughts concerning ART.
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Old 11-01-2004, 08:25 PM   #8
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WOW! $750!

That just confirms my thoughts concerning ART.

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BaggedC10 ......$150 for new GM upper/lower cross shafts, and $200 to have my stock arms powder coated.
$350 and still the factory arms & geometry. For tubular arms that are lighter, stronger, airbag friendly, & geometrically improved for lowered vehicles, that's not too bad.

I know some guys don't want to spend alot of money, but I realistically can't make my own & I don't care for what's currently available from PST, Turners, or DJM (none of which are already airbag friendly).

Do you know of a better solution?
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It's like a highly skilled Morrocan sword fighter with a Damascus Steel Scimitar.....

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Old 11-01-2004, 08:38 PM   #9
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I know some guys don't want to spend alot of money, but I realistically can't make my own & I don't care for what's currently available from PST, Turners, or DJM (none of which are already airbag friendly).
Turners has something that's actually available??

Also, I've been a little chapped at ART of late with what has come off as a "too big a business to care about the customer" feel, but they have been VERY responsive over the years to my needs. They've spent quite a bit of time debugging a problem that turned out to be nothing more than it being too cold outside, and they even swapped out one of my perfectly good 4-way valves for a new one when they came out with the first red ones (the previous ones were black and a bit more homemade looking). Their prices tend to be higher than others, but their service is (generally) top notch.

{Of course, I say this _before_ getting my arms that are supposed to be in transit }
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Turners has something that's actually available??
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Building a small, high rpm engine with the perfect bore, stroke and rod ratio is very impressive.
It's like a highly skilled Morrocan sword fighter with a Damascus Steel Scimitar.....

Cubic inches is like Indiana Jones with a cheap pistol.
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Old 11-01-2004, 10:08 PM   #11
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$350 and still the factory arms & geometry. For tubular arms that are lighter, stronger, airbag friendly, & geometrically improved for lowered vehicles, that's not too bad.


Yep. Plus, the cross shafts were purchased at cost + 10% through my brother.
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Old 11-02-2004, 02:42 PM   #12
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WooHoo . . ... I just received confirmation that my package arrived yesterday! I was under the impression it just left yesterday .

I'll post some pics of everything after I get it home (might be a few days though). The guys @ the shop are heading to SEMA & I might just need to join them if I can plan it fast enough w/o going broke.
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Building a small, high rpm engine with the perfect bore, stroke and rod ratio is very impressive.
It's like a highly skilled Morrocan sword fighter with a Damascus Steel Scimitar.....

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Old 11-03-2004, 07:05 PM   #13
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WooHoo . . ... I just received confirmation that my package arrived yesterday!
The eagle has landed here as well. After I get this new hernia (the box weighs 97 pounds!) fixed I'll dig into the box a little more. I did pull out a lower arm... amazingly heavy duty.

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Old 11-04-2004, 09:39 PM   #14
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I agree about items such as air tanks, air line, fittings, bags, and other common products being overpriced. However, their 4-links and front suspension kits (Bracketry too) are awesome and worth every penny. If I had to re-bag my front suspension, I would piece together a kit from Suicide Doors.
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Old 11-06-2004, 12:24 PM   #15
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Dang . . . . gone a couple of days & all this.

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GreyHoundSteve $750 is a hefty price. Ive seen similar "tubular A arms" with corect lowered geometry sell for about $250 from other makers. They are probably not the "heavY duty" your getting for $750 but they are probably considerably lighter and could be replaced 3 times and youd still have paid the same amount though if your destroying A arms like that you should probably go with the strongest ones available. Here is a link to a set of cheaper tubular A arms for lowered trucks ..... someone more knowledgable can tell me what the difference is.
http://performanceonline.com
The problem (for me) w/these arms is they actually correct alignment issues by making the upper arms longer, thus not requiring 'excessive' shims. That does me absolutely zilch good because w/longer arms my wheels/tires will be rubbing the outer edges of the fender-lip & wheel-well.
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It's not just your opinion..it is fact. ART stuff IS overpriced.

I've said it before many times on this board....when quality is the same (ie. ART vs. *****************) the lower priced part wins everytime.

As for customer service, is it REALLY worth up to three times the price? I think not, especially when the competing manufacturer has customer service that's not three times as bad.
I will concede on the pricing issue. I freely admit that when I deal w/AirRide I can get a discounted price. I'm not paying any more than what you other guys pay for 'pieced together kits' and I get the AirRide customer service.

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MrShelley With ART I get the distinct feeling that you pay for the "prestige" of having an Air Ride Tech sticker. Reminds me of back in the 80's in high school...you had to have that little alligator proudly displayed on the front of your shirt so everyone knew how much you spent on it. They get your money AND free advertising! Now THAT'S marketing!
I never was one of the kids wearing that little alligator, so you didn't "have to" wear that stuff. I had cheap K-Mart bought clothes (lots of AC/DC t-shirts). I won't pay inflated pricing on something if a similar alternative can be had. As far as parts go, there are alot of "cheap/low quality" organizations out there in computerland (think AIM, Trukkin[sp?]) that everyone blasts as no good, yet I've used more than once & had no problems w/parts quality or delivery & saved some bucks.
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Cubic inches is like Indiana Jones with a cheap pistol.

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Old 01-01-2005, 07:36 PM   #16
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Here are a few pics of my Capt Kaos xmember with ART control arms installed.

Shane... note the special upside down ART sticker on one of the arms. That's the high-dollar ART sticker they forgot to put on correctly
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Old 01-01-2005, 07:38 PM   #17
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Old 11-07-2004, 05:21 PM   #18
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So suicide doors is the best place then to get comparable parts for less $$$?????

That seems to be the general concensus........

Anyone have a parts list for the exact things i would need from Suicide?
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here is a picture of the arms from the ART SEMA booth. They look great. i am getting a set.
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here is a picture of the arms from the ART SEMA booth. They look great. i am getting a set.
Mine came black, only the upper had a sticker on it (the "high dollar" sticker ), and no upper ball joint. I'm not sure if they were SUPPOSED to have an upper or not.
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Old 11-10-2004, 01:28 PM   #21
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So where do I buy a set? I checked the ART site and it says there not available, is there some where I can get them? I need them now.
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Old 11-10-2004, 03:07 PM   #22
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Okay...got some awesome news...Jason at Suicidedoors is a buddy of mine and AirRide is only like a half hour from him. I just got off the phone with him (drum roll please)

$675 for upper and lower arms!!!!!!!

One thing that hasn't been mentioned yet is there are different ball joint options for the different years...cool thing is you can order them with '73-'87 ball joints and swap in '73-'87 dropped spindles at the same time...

Give him a call (812) 782-3581 and tell'em Shev sent ya...

Keep your eyes open for more deals deals to come...
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Old 11-10-2004, 04:16 PM   #23
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shev.... sent you a PM

from the picture above, im not quite sure how the springs/ bags would mount on the bottom arm.....

anyone want to enlighten me?
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Old 11-10-2004, 05:17 PM   #24
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If you look in the pic in the post above the arm on the left has an AirRide Tech sticker on a plate...that's where the bag mounts...

In this pic you can see the plate on the arm on the left...
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so this deal from suicide is just the top and bottom arms....
Im looking through the ART catalogue and i keep seeing complete
coolride systems... both arms and the bag for like 1200....
If i go with the suicide stuff what else am i going to need to get
to complete a coolride setup...
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