Deleting e brake - The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network

**kev2809** · 12-25-2021, 02:51 PM

Is this OK to do? I hate the handle on my 67 and my cables are frayed under the cab. also hate the steel cable coming through the firewall. is it OK to just delete the whole thing? truck will have an LS with 4l60E auto trans. also has air ride and it can not roll when aired out.

anyone else delete the whole setup?

sick472 · 12-25-2021, 03:36 PM

Even though I have driven autos for 99% of my driving life (36 years) AND never got in the habit of setting the parking brake.... I have had to use it a few time for during brake failures. I cannot recommend deleting the system, but rather fix it and keep it working in good order.

The park/emergency brake system is not that good to use as a way to get home after the master cylinder goes out, the line breaks, or otherwise....but, I guarantee that regret will be the first thing to go through your mind in a brake failure.

Moore87 · 12-25-2021, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by kev2809

Is this OK to do? I hate the handle on my 67 and my cables are frayed under the cab. also hate the steel cable coming through the firewall. is it OK to just delete the whole thing? truck will have an LS with 4l60E auto trans. also has air ride and it can not roll when aired out.

anyone else delete the whole setup?

How is your truck registered? In TX gotta have a parking brake to pass safety inspection

Personally It wouldn’t bother me. If I was worried about brake failure I wouldn’t drive the truck

**jocko** · 12-25-2021, 04:29 PM

Nope, it’s not ok in most states (and zero that I’ve ever lived in, and have moved around quite a bit). And it’s really not a good idea either, even if you think you won’t need it, you eventually will (or should) use it. Cannot roll when aired out is probably not a viable workaround when in a scenario where you actually need a pbrake - yes, there are times you should use one even with an automatic.

**kev2809** · 12-25-2021, 05:09 PM

tbh I have been driving for 20 years and not once have I ever had to use my e brake. nothing but flat lands where I'm from but I see you guys point. I will look into it more in detail and see what needs to be replaced to get it working right

BAD1916 · 12-25-2021, 07:09 PM

Maybe get an electric parking brake. They aren’t that bad to Install either. The only thing I don’t like is they are all or nothing.

Peanut74 · 12-25-2021, 10:31 PM

The only time I use my e-brake is when I'm working on my other vehicles. For my '67 I removed it as I would have had to rebuild the whole system. I will be upgrading my master cylinder from a single line system to a dual, just to be sure I have some brakes. As for when I work on it I will just chalk the wheels so it don't roll.

**Grumpy old man** · 12-25-2021, 11:18 PM

Rock auto for all 4 cables AC Delco gold is only about $60.00 , Really not something to delete when the name starts with "Emergency" brake

Zeroman · 12-26-2021, 11:25 AM

kev2809, Sent you a private message

**kev2809** · 12-26-2021, 01:45 PM

Well. I'm thinking of just wrapping the actual cable by the firewall in a wireloom or something and repairing whats missing. The actual handle under the column doesn't bother me all that much but i figured if there was a chance to remove it all together than why not.

**MySons68C20** · 12-26-2021, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by kev2809

Well. I'm thinking of just wrapping the actual cable by the firewall in a wireloom or something and repairing whats missing. The actual handle under the column doesn't bother me all that much but i figured if there was a chance to remove it all together than why not.

I like that plan!

May70 · 12-26-2021, 02:41 PM

I actually really like the hand style. I had a manual truck before that it was VERY handy when towing, heck even stop/go/parallel parking etc on an incline. I used it all the time. It got me out of some sticky situations. I really don't like the pedal E brake with a manual not sure why they moved it. The pedal style really limits it as a tool.

Anyways, its most likely illegal where you live and if you did cause an accident you better hope the other party doesn't find out. That's prime lawsuit material! Personally I would not drive something that didn't have an e brake.

jaros44sr · 12-26-2021, 03:56 PM

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I wouldn't delete it, but you could convert it to something more functional

**dagnabbitt** · 12-26-2021, 04:06 PM

The one time I really needed an ebrake was in a 67 GMC, and that handle probably saved someone's life. I am not sure I would have found it if it was on the floor, either.

**'68OrangeSunshine** · 12-26-2021, 11:37 PM

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I wouldn't delete it, but you could convert it to something more functional[/quote]

Jaros44sr -- Is that a dual Left/Right bootlegger hand brake system?

tj1970cst · 12-27-2021, 02:51 AM

I don't think the self adjusters will work properly with no e brake.

I know I have seen it on other vehicles, not 100% if these are the same.

jaros44sr · 12-27-2021, 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by '68OrangeSunshine

Jaros44sr -- Is that a dual Left/Right bootlegger hand brake system?

Yep, it's used to make tight turns off roading, set one side, and the truck will turn on a dime

**'68OrangeSunshine** · 12-28-2021, 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by jaros44sr

Yep, it's used to make tight turns off roading, set one side, and the truck will turn on a dime

Also for eluding Revenuers on skinny mountain roads with a load of 'Shine in the bed.
Semper Fi.

CG · 12-26-2021, 06:08 PM

I had the brakes go out in my 72 Burb in evening rush hour traffic and I had around a 40 mile commute left.

I used the foot ebrake and the ebrake release handle to get home. Well most of the way until the black handle popped off. Luckily, I was still able to hold on to the piece the handle is stuck to, good grip =)

Its the opposite of flat here out in the west side of the Cascades, an ebrake is essential.

57larry · 12-26-2021, 06:15 PM

don't have an E brake on my 68. It was missing when I bought the truck, never thought about looking for one. maybe I should

CastIron · 12-26-2021, 10:35 PM

What is all this talk about e brakes? My truck doesn't have one. It does, however, have a park brake.

**dmjlambert** · 12-26-2021, 10:46 PM

Well, it is a parking brake that is mighty useful as emergency brake. I like maintaining my truck in 100% operating condition and passing inspection every year, and driving it all over the state.

toms68cst · 12-27-2021, 07:50 AM

The customs and CST's have a cover for the handle. It dresses it up a bit. Should be an easy thing to pic up and fit to your truck.

I've had my truck for 20+ years and never touched the e-brake. I have too many unpleasant memories of my mom driving away forgetting to release the e-brake with a cloud of smoke rising from the back of whatever she was driving!

On a side note, I'm afraid that if I set mine after 25+- years of having never been used, it won't release. Is this a consideration? My brakes are in otherwise good condition.

**bigmac73** · 12-29-2021, 11:43 AM

i will say this , I had an 74 nova with 4 wheel drums, and once i was hauling ass and hit the brakes and the front right drum busted on me, the only thing that saved my ass was the e brake.

12-25-2021, 02:51 PM	#1
kev2809 low n' slo Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: rosenberg, texas Posts: 5,140	Deleting e brake Is this OK to do? I hate the handle on my 67 and my cables are frayed under the cab. also hate the steel cable coming through the firewall. is it OK to just delete the whole thing? truck will have an LS with 4l60E auto trans. also has air ride and it can not roll when aired out. anyone else delete the whole setup? __________________ 67 1/2 ton Suburban - Project DRGNWGN. Build thread -_--_--_ _________ _--_-_ -/____\|__\|__\__ ,.,,,.,.,,.,\|_O _______ O_]

12-25-2021, 03:36 PM	#2
sick472 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Sedalia Mo. Posts: 1,131	Re: Deleting e brake Even though I have driven autos for 99% of my driving life (36 years) AND never got in the habit of setting the parking brake.... I have had to use it a few time for during brake failures. I cannot recommend deleting the system, but rather fix it and keep it working in good order. The park/emergency brake system is not that good to use as a way to get home after the master cylinder goes out, the line breaks, or otherwise....but, I guarantee that regret will be the first thing to go through your mind in a brake failure. __________________ He who is without oil shall throw the first rod. Compressions 8.7:1 1972 C10 1976 C10 (parts truck) 1985 K20

12-25-2021, 04:29 PM	#4
jocko Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Godley, TX Posts: 17,943	Re: Deleting e brake Nope, it’s not ok in most states (and zero that I’ve ever lived in, and have moved around quite a bit). And it’s really not a good idea either, even if you think you won’t need it, you eventually will (or should) use it. Cannot roll when aired out is probably not a viable workaround when in a scenario where you actually need a pbrake - yes, there are times you should use one even with an automatic.

12-25-2021, 05:09 PM	#5
kev2809 low n' slo Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: rosenberg, texas Posts: 5,140	Re: Deleting e brake tbh I have been driving for 20 years and not once have I ever had to use my e brake. nothing but flat lands where I'm from but I see you guys point. I will look into it more in detail and see what needs to be replaced to get it working right __________________ 67 1/2 ton Suburban - Project DRGNWGN. Build thread -_--_--_ _________ _--_-_ -/____\|__\|__\__ ,.,,,.,.,,.,\|_O _______ O_]

12-25-2021, 07:09 PM	#6
BAD1916 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: VENTURA COUNTY CALIFORNIA Posts: 277	Re: Deleting e brake Maybe get an electric parking brake. They aren’t that bad to Install either. The only thing I don’t like is they are all or nothing.

12-25-2021, 10:31 PM	#7
Peanut74 Registered User Join Date: May 2018 Location: Prattville, AL Posts: 590	Re: Deleting e brake The only time I use my e-brake is when I'm working on my other vehicles. For my '67 I removed it as I would have had to rebuild the whole system. I will be upgrading my master cylinder from a single line system to a dual, just to be sure I have some brakes. As for when I work on it I will just chalk the wheels so it don't roll. __________________ -------------------------------------------------------- 1967 C10 "Snowball" (Currently in a million pieces down from a bazillion) 1989 Toyota DLX pickup "The Hulk" 2012 Jeep JKU "Crush" 1976 Chevy short bed with a 327 and 3 on the tree (Sold it to buy the Blazer) 1971 Chevy Blazer (Sold it)

12-25-2021, 11:18 PM	#8
Grumpy old man Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Gods country East,Tn Posts: 8,545	Re: Deleting e brake Rock auto for all 4 cables AC Delco gold is only about $60.00 , Really not something to delete when the name starts with "Emergency" brake Attached Images __________________ 1967 Factory short bed - Old school '71 - 350 / 4bolt / 487 heads / Edelbrock C3BX Muncie M-22 4 speed / Hurst Comp plus Factory 12 bolt posi 3.73 / 255-70-15 Smoothed firewall / Factory cowl induction Power disc brakes / power steering / 3.5-5" drop

12-26-2021, 11:25 AM	#9
Zeroman Registered User Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 348	Re: Deleting e brake kev2809, Sent you a private message Last edited by Zeroman; 12-26-2021 at 11:36 AM.

12-26-2021, 01:45 PM	#10
kev2809 low n' slo Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: rosenberg, texas Posts: 5,140	Re: Deleting e brake Well. I'm thinking of just wrapping the actual cable by the firewall in a wireloom or something and repairing whats missing. The actual handle under the column doesn't bother me all that much but i figured if there was a chance to remove it all together than why not. __________________ 67 1/2 ton Suburban - Project DRGNWGN. Build thread -_--_--_ _________ _--_-_ -/____\|__\|__\__ ,.,,,.,.,,.,\|_O _______ O_]

12-26-2021, 02:41 PM	#12
May70 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: Hampton Roads VA Posts: 644	Re: Deleting e brake I actually really like the hand style. I had a manual truck before that it was VERY handy when towing, heck even stop/go/parallel parking etc on an incline. I used it all the time. It got me out of some sticky situations. I really don't like the pedal E brake with a manual not sure why they moved it. The pedal style really limits it as a tool. Anyways, its most likely illegal where you live and if you did cause an accident you better hope the other party doesn't find out. That's prime lawsuit material! Personally I would not drive something that didn't have an e brake. __________________ 70 C20 Build link : Project Montezuma http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=794479 How to repair that rusted out 67-72 c10-c30! Please subscribe! https://www.youtube.com/c/MaycoCustomRestorations

12-26-2021, 03:56 PM	#13
jaros44sr Registered User Join Date: May 2006 Location: Philadelphia, Pa. 19454 Posts: 9,454	Re: Deleting e brake 16401849429525845957225115628482 by [url=https://www.flickr.com/photos/97391199@N06 I wouldn't delete it, but you could convert it to something more functional __________________ Semper Fi...Uncle Sam, you da man All parts offered to help are free, unless otherwise noted Dont try this stuff in my build thread, unless you have 55 years of mechanical OTJ training SAFETY FIRST AS usual, off topic They say your mind goes second, can't remember the first Jim

12-26-2021, 04:06 PM	#14
dagnabbitt Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Edmonton Alberta Posts: 1,319	Re: Deleting e brake The one time I really needed an ebrake was in a 67 GMC, and that handle probably saved someone's life. I am not sure I would have found it if it was on the floor, either. __________________ DAVE Edmonton, Alberta 1959 Apache 1967 K20 1968 C20 1970 C10 1972 GMC 2500 1981 C10

12-26-2021, 11:37 PM	#15
'68OrangeSunshine Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Tucson, AZ USA Posts: 7,164	Re: Deleting e brake [quote=jaros44sr;9011341]16401849429525845957225115628482 by [url=https://www.flickr.com/photos/97391199@N06 I wouldn't delete it, but you could convert it to something more functional[/quote] Jaros44sr -- Is that a dual Left/Right bootlegger hand brake system? __________________ Every 25 years I like to rebuild that 292, whether it needs it or not.

12-27-2021, 02:51 AM	#16
tj1970cst Registered User Join Date: Mar 2019 Location: Arlington, TN Posts: 170	Re: Deleting e brake I don't think the self adjusters will work properly with no e brake. I know I have seen it on other vehicles, not 100% if these are the same.

12-26-2021, 06:08 PM	#19
CG BlahBlahBlah Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Wa. Posts: 19,816	Re: Deleting e brake I had the brakes go out in my 72 Burb in evening rush hour traffic and I had around a 40 mile commute left. I used the foot ebrake and the ebrake release handle to get home. Well most of the way until the black handle popped off. Luckily, I was still able to hold on to the piece the handle is stuck to, good grip =) Its the opposite of flat here out in the west side of the Cascades, an ebrake is essential. __________________ … … … … … … … … ... … … … … … … … … … … …



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12-26-2021, 06:15 PM	#20
57larry Registered User Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 1,161	Re: Deleting e brake don't have an E brake on my 68. It was missing when I bought the truck, never thought about looking for one. maybe I should

12-26-2021, 10:35 PM	#21
CastIron Registered User Join Date: May 2013 Location: Oregon Posts: 326	Re: Deleting e brake What is all this talk about e brakes? My truck doesn't have one. It does, however, have a park brake.

12-26-2021, 10:46 PM	#22
dmjlambert Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Cypress, TX Posts: 3,628	Re: Deleting e brake Well, it is a parking brake that is mighty useful as emergency brake. I like maintaining my truck in 100% operating condition and passing inspection every year, and driving it all over the state.

12-27-2021, 07:50 AM	#23
toms68cst Registered User Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Bismarck, ND Posts: 4,281	Re: Deleting e brake The customs and CST's have a cover for the handle. It dresses it up a bit. Should be an easy thing to pic up and fit to your truck. I've had my truck for 20+ years and never touched the e-brake. I have too many unpleasant memories of my mom driving away forgetting to release the e-brake with a cloud of smoke rising from the back of whatever she was driving! On a side note, I'm afraid that if I set mine after 25+- years of having never been used, it won't release. Is this a consideration? My brakes are in otherwise good condition. __________________ Unrestored 68 C-10 CST. Original 327. 4-Speed CH465. 50k or so miles. TREASURER, Drum Brake Club.

12-29-2021, 11:43 AM	#24
bigmac73 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Chesapeake, Va Posts: 1,275	Re: Deleting e brake i will say this , I had an 74 nova with 4 wheel drums, and once i was hauling ass and hit the brakes and the front right drum busted on me, the only thing that saved my ass was the e brake. __________________ Mike 72 C-10 Cheyenne off frame resto and Upgraded to 4 wheel disk, Tilt, Dakota Digital Dash / Rear slider. 421 SBC / TH350 3000RPM Stall Progression Ignition /Holley 750 DP/3:73 gear Eaton Limited Slip unit / 2 1/2 exhaust glasspacks

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